Elon Musk $41B offer for Twitter
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Byker28i said:
Volatility of the Tesla stock will remain for a while yet. Too much uncertainty in general and a lack of clarity around US sales helps to blur the reality. I believe their Q1 numbers will be released on 22nd April, but I could be wrong. Fully expect to see more volatility up to the market report. Its bound to happen and fully expect to see drops and claw-backs until then. I am not a gambler or professional stock trader, but its pretty obvious that this might not be a stable investment in the short term.
)Numbers are being run by market analysts and its not looking good so far:
https://electrek.co/2025/02/21/tesla-deliveries-ex...
I dont believe that their sales are cratering yet, but they are certainly down and with much reduced margins too. This would place them firmly in the group as other automakers and likely for some sort of correction. However, we are already seeing increased activity in attempts to keep their stock high. WH stuff, pro-Tesla influencers pushing hard on the Robotaxi thing (most recently I have seen people claiming that a Robotaxi would generate $35k a year, making its purchase price of $30k a sure-fire investment opportunity! If thats the case, I have a Nigerian Prince that I would love you to meet!). Fully expect to see more and more bold claims in an attempt to pump the stock before the quarterly results. Will this work? No idea, but I expect to see desperation setting in though.
h0b0 said:
It’s defending the truth not Trump.
I think it so weird to defend a fake tweet that supports a narrative instead of using the ample evidence out there that is real. If you want to stand on the honor hill, you have to be honorable. Unfortunately for all of us, it has been demonstrated there is no honor in politics. But, just because they have normalized inventing facts by writing them down to support their point, doesn’t mean we should accept it or copy it.
Over the last few years I’ve seen the general population become comfortable with lying. If you want to hold yourself to a higher standard, you have to maintain that standard.
Alternatively, you could hold your hands up and admit you fell for a joke.
Totally agree. We’ve had years and years of being told that ‘many people’ are saying xyz about Trump and now Musk and it’s a random Twitter account or a news article that says something completely different, fake tweets, satirical tweets posted as fact etc etc. I think it so weird to defend a fake tweet that supports a narrative instead of using the ample evidence out there that is real. If you want to stand on the honor hill, you have to be honorable. Unfortunately for all of us, it has been demonstrated there is no honor in politics. But, just because they have normalized inventing facts by writing them down to support their point, doesn’t mean we should accept it or copy it.
Over the last few years I’ve seen the general population become comfortable with lying. If you want to hold yourself to a higher standard, you have to maintain that standard.
Alternatively, you could hold your hands up and admit you fell for a joke.
No one else gets a free pass for these kinds of mistakes, let alone continually doing it.
gregs656 said:
h0b0 said:
It’s defending the truth not Trump.
I think it so weird to defend a fake tweet that supports a narrative instead of using the ample evidence out there that is real. If you want to stand on the honor hill, you have to be honorable. Unfortunately for all of us, it has been demonstrated there is no honor in politics. But, just because they have normalized inventing facts by writing them down to support their point, doesn’t mean we should accept it or copy it.
Over the last few years I’ve seen the general population become comfortable with lying. If you want to hold yourself to a higher standard, you have to maintain that standard.
Alternatively, you could hold your hands up and admit you fell for a joke.
Totally agree. We’ve had years and years of being told that ‘many people’ are saying xyz about Trump and now Musk and it’s a random Twitter account or a news article that says something completely different, fake tweets, satirical tweets posted as fact etc etc. I think it so weird to defend a fake tweet that supports a narrative instead of using the ample evidence out there that is real. If you want to stand on the honor hill, you have to be honorable. Unfortunately for all of us, it has been demonstrated there is no honor in politics. But, just because they have normalized inventing facts by writing them down to support their point, doesn’t mean we should accept it or copy it.
Over the last few years I’ve seen the general population become comfortable with lying. If you want to hold yourself to a higher standard, you have to maintain that standard.
Alternatively, you could hold your hands up and admit you fell for a joke.
No one else gets a free pass for these kinds of mistakes, let alone continually doing it.
paulguitar said:
Cheers. It's so annoying that people do this. It's not as if it is necessary to make up stuff about trump...
So it's not about cost cutting and efficiencies then
The Arlington National Cemetery website "unpublished" links to material about Black, Hispanic and women veterans.
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/arlington-cemetery...
The Arlington National Cemetery website "unpublished" links to material about Black, Hispanic and women veterans.
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/arlington-cemetery...
Musk led sackings found illegal
A second federal judge has ordered the mass reinstatement of fired federal workers, reversing the terminations of probationary employees at 18 major agencies.
Both judges concluded that the trump administration used false allegations of “performance” issues as a pretext to justify the large-scale firings and ignore legally mandated procedures for slimming the workforce.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/13/federal-j...
It's not going well for GOP members who do hold town halls. Rep. Chuck Edwards (R-NC) had a town hall today in Ashville. He faced people angry at the sackings and job losses.
This man ask the question
https://bsky.app/profile/cwebbonline.com/post/3lkc...
Edit: TikTok links - it seems the faithful have lost faith
https://www.tiktok.com/@reneepaplham/video/7481436...
A second federal judge has ordered the mass reinstatement of fired federal workers, reversing the terminations of probationary employees at 18 major agencies.
Both judges concluded that the trump administration used false allegations of “performance” issues as a pretext to justify the large-scale firings and ignore legally mandated procedures for slimming the workforce.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/13/federal-j...
It's not going well for GOP members who do hold town halls. Rep. Chuck Edwards (R-NC) had a town hall today in Ashville. He faced people angry at the sackings and job losses.
This man ask the question
https://bsky.app/profile/cwebbonline.com/post/3lkc...
Edit: TikTok links - it seems the faithful have lost faith
https://www.tiktok.com/@reneepaplham/video/7481436...
Edited by Byker28i on Friday 14th March 06:45
Forbes: Musk Retweets ‘Hitler Didn’t Murder Millions’ Message Amid Ongoing Nazi Controversy
“Their public sector workers did.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025...
Musk reshared a post on his X platform by an account with the username @TheAlice Smith that read: “Stalin, Mao and Hitler didn’t murder millions of people. Their public sector workers did.”
“Their public sector workers did.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025...
Musk reshared a post on his X platform by an account with the username @TheAlice Smith that read: “Stalin, Mao and Hitler didn’t murder millions of people. Their public sector workers did.”
Edited by Byker28i on Friday 14th March 06:43
Mentioned the other day, he hasn't got it , Musk still wants his $56bn payout from Tesla
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/03/12/mu...
Then Musk tells trump Tesla are exposed to retaliation over tariffs
https://www.ft.com/content/605295c5-dc8f-4247-ba35...
Not only imports for his batteries, but not mentioned, his manufacturing in China
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/03/12/mu...
Then Musk tells trump Tesla are exposed to retaliation over tariffs
https://www.ft.com/content/605295c5-dc8f-4247-ba35...
Not only imports for his batteries, but not mentioned, his manufacturing in China
Byker28i said:
Forbes: Musk Retweets ‘Hitler Didn’t Murder Millions’ Message Amid Ongoing Nazi Controversy
“Their public sector workers did.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025...
Musk reshared a post on his X platform by an account with the username @TheAlice Smith that read: “Stalin, Mao and Hitler didn’t murder millions of people. Their public sector workers did.”
It feels very much like Musk is speedrunnng his way to becoming an MBA case study in how not to run a business.“Their public sector workers did.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025...
Musk reshared a post on his X platform by an account with the username @TheAlice Smith that read: “Stalin, Mao and Hitler didn’t murder millions of people. Their public sector workers did.”
Edited by Byker28i on Friday 14th March 06:43
America’s scientific community is in panic mode as Musk takes a chainsaw to the National Institutes of Health, the world’s largest funder of biomedical research
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-am...
There's going to be another brain drain. Already France is reaching out to US researchers to go there
https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/14/france_us_s...
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-am...
There's going to be another brain drain. Already France is reaching out to US researchers to go there
https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/14/france_us_s...
tangerine_sedge said:
Byker28i said:
Forbes: Musk Retweets ‘Hitler Didn’t Murder Millions’ Message Amid Ongoing Nazi Controversy
“Their public sector workers did.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025...
Musk reshared a post on his X platform by an account with the username @TheAlice Smith that read: “Stalin, Mao and Hitler didn’t murder millions of people. Their public sector workers did.”
It feels very much like Musk is speedrunnng his way to becoming an MBA case study in how not to run a business.“Their public sector workers did.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025...
Musk reshared a post on his X platform by an account with the username @TheAlice Smith that read: “Stalin, Mao and Hitler didn’t murder millions of people. Their public sector workers did.”
Edited by Byker28i on Friday 14th March 06:43
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/14/technology/elon...
It’s really funny watching DOGE try to claim it’s just some advisory committee unrelated to Musk, as trump and Musk himself claim Musk is in charge, promote all the faked cuts they claim Musk has made...
Musk really doesn't like being unpopular.
With Amy Gleason in place as acting DOGE chief, Musk would be potentially shielded from some legal responsibility and questions about conflicts, experts say.
One person who has been in meetings with Gleason said, “I get the sense that Amy is in the role of scapegoat.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/doge-leadership...
Musk really doesn't like being unpopular.
With Amy Gleason in place as acting DOGE chief, Musk would be potentially shielded from some legal responsibility and questions about conflicts, experts say.
One person who has been in meetings with Gleason said, “I get the sense that Amy is in the role of scapegoat.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/doge-leadership...
Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 15th March 06:50
Byker28i said:
It’s really funny watching DOGE try to claim it’s just some advisory committee unrelated to Musk, as trump and Musk himself claim Musk is in charge, promote all the faked cuts they claim Musk has made...
Musk really doesn't like being unpopular.
With Amy Gleason in place as acting DOGE chief, Musk would be potentially shielded from some legal responsibility and questions about conflicts, experts say.
One person who has been in meetings with Gleason said, “I get the sense that Amy is in the role of scapegoat.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/doge-leadership...
Quite incredible the lengths that scapegoats are willing to stick their necks in nooses for a bit of power/money/glory (delete as appropriate)Musk really doesn't like being unpopular.
With Amy Gleason in place as acting DOGE chief, Musk would be potentially shielded from some legal responsibility and questions about conflicts, experts say.
One person who has been in meetings with Gleason said, “I get the sense that Amy is in the role of scapegoat.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/doge-leadership...
Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 15th March 06:50
hidetheelephants said:
They'll have no difficulty providing lots of minutes of meetings she has attended where she's made all these important decisions and memos she's sent to her minions actioning all of them afterwards. Or not, as the case may be.
I do wonder what sort of mindset it takes to actually take a job like the one Amy Gleason is supposedly doing. It's clear as day who is calling the shots - blimey, even trump is being explicit about it. Yet formally there's flat denial of any organisational link or accountability to musk. She must be being paid an absolute fortune to be the obvious fall guy for this. I just don't understand why anyone would take the job otherwise.
Oh, and of course, there will be no minutes of any decisions.
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