Trans woman convicted rapist sent to female prison

[HM-2]

Kes Arevo said:

Dylan Mulvaney was invited to the whitehouse, and had a one on one with Joe Biden.

What's "nuts" about Mulvaney, or whatever pejorative Gecko78 used? A quick Google brings up a lot of regressive right wing folks screeching but very little inclination as to what their actual contention is.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

In fairness, if you are not on a platform you will be ignorant of that platform..

For example, I am not on TikTok, and I very very rarely log into Twitter too.

I rarely log into txChix either. IKR?!

[Gecko1978]

HM-2 said:

Kes Arevo said:

Dylan Mulvaney was invited to the whitehouse, and had a one on one with Joe Biden.

What's "nuts" about Mulvaney, or whatever pejorative Gecko78 used? A quick Google brings up a lot of regressive right wing folks screeching but very little inclination as to what their actual contention is.

https://youtu.be/EQ-yzbzqH4U

Have a look for yourself Dylans own content

[bitchstewie]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

If it is worth a groat, I have always considered you an ally and have valued you posts.

You always make well-reasoned balanced posts and anyone who thinks otherwise is just moaning that you are not biased toward them

I get that it's a delicate subject and I'm sure there will be things I'll see or hear that I either won't be able to fully wrap my head around or won't necessarily agree with.

Without wanting to patronise you I expect aspects of your life are or have been difficult enough without having to explain and justify yourself to a bunch of people on an Internet forum when I can't think of anything you'll do that has the slightest impact on them.

I think the thing that leaps to mind is if you rolled back the clock 40 or 50 years you could probably imagine similar conversations about gay people or black people or any other minority and how dare they want certain rights or treatment.

[HM-2]

Gecko1978 said:

HM-2 said:

Kes Arevo said:

Dylan Mulvaney was invited to the whitehouse, and had a one on one with Joe Biden.

What's "nuts" about Mulvaney, or whatever pejorative Gecko78 used? A quick Google brings up a lot of regressive right wing folks screeching but very little inclination as to what their actual contention is.

https://youtu.be/EQ-yzbzqH4U

Have a look for yourself Dylans own content

Expecting me to make your argument for you is the height of laziness. As someone with neither the time nor inclination to trawl some random YouTube channel's videos looking for purported evidence they're "nuts", I feel like the onus is on you to come up with at least one "nuts" position they have rather than expecting me to guess what you're taking issue with?

[Kes Arevo]

HM-2 said:

Kes Arevo said:

Dylan Mulvaney was invited to the whitehouse, and had a one on one with Joe Biden.

What's "nuts" about Mulvaney, or whatever pejorative Gecko78 used? A quick Google brings up a lot of regressive right wing folks screeching but very little inclination as to what their actual contention is.

I never said anything about "nuts".

I said he ain't fringe.

[Gecko1978]

bhstewie said:

Clockwork Cupcake said:

If it is worth a groat, I have always considered you an ally and have valued you posts.

You always make well-reasoned balanced posts and anyone who thinks otherwise is just moaning that you are not biased toward them

I get that it's a delicate subject and I'm sure there will be things I'll see or hear that I either won't be able to fully wrap my head around or won't necessarily agree with.

Without wanting to patronise you I expect aspects of your life are or have been difficult enough without having to explain and justify yourself to a bunch of people on an Internet forum when I can't think of anything you'll do that has the slightest impact on them.

I think the thing that leaps to mind is if you rolled back the clock 40 or 50 years you could probably imagine similar conversations about gay people or black people or any other minority and how dare they want certain rights or treatment.

No one far as I can see has been critical of CC and the way they live their life. No one has said Trans people should not be afforded rights, what we have on this thread is an example of where being trans must be seen as different to being a women (the thread topic). That difference does not deny rights or indicate bigotry just highlights in some niche circumstances differences so matter.

The poster who said they were gay but did not want to be part of LGBTQIA+ community again that's fine it's not a club you have to join. As a white male I don't have to have a subscription to Strormfront (I think that's the name of the far right publication). Just as a black person doesn't need to go in a BLM march.

What I said earlier is some loud voices make a group look crazy. So far right Alex Jones bat st crazy total head case, trans movement Dylan etc, BLM the women who was then shot in the head at a party by other members of her community. Loudest is not always the majority view

[Clockwork Cupcake]

bhstewie said:

I think the thing that leaps to mind is if you rolled back the clock 40 or 50 years you could probably imagine similar conversations about gay people or black people or any other minority and how dare they want certain rights or treatment.

Quite. So true.

[Gecko1978]

HM-2 said:

Gecko1978 said:

HM-2 said:

Kes Arevo said:

Dylan Mulvaney was invited to the whitehouse, and had a one on one with Joe Biden.

What's "nuts" about Mulvaney, or whatever pejorative Gecko78 used? A quick Google brings up a lot of regressive right wing folks screeching but very little inclination as to what their actual contention is.

https://youtu.be/EQ-yzbzqH4U

Have a look for yourself Dylans own content

Expecting me to make your argument for you is the height of laziness. As someone with neither the time nor inclination to trawl some random YouTube channel's videos looking for purported evidence they're "nuts", I feel like the onus is on you to come up with at least one "nuts" position they have rather than expecting me to guess what you're taking issue with?

The video is Dylan talking about their crotch bulge while shopping. They refere to women's genitalia as a barbie pocket. They then sings / raps about women with bulges while wearing tight leather shorts which highlight the bulge.

Dylan records a video every day entitled days of girl hood.

Dylan talks about being a "bimbo"

Dylan has a video of hiking heals where they pretend to be scared of everything

So there you go a synopsis of a few of their own posts. Catlyn Jenner has commented that they do more harm to the trans movement than good

[gregs656]

bobbo89 said:

Depends on what you consider hate, I'm incredibly thick skinned and have a very 'couldn't give a fk' attitude to most things so things like hurty words just get laughed off. That's largely due to the industry I work in which is male dominated and typically working class, think I've heard just about every slur you can imagine as well as some quite humorous and inventive new ones.

Never been attacked or faced any violence though but that's probably due to me just being a regular bloke on the surface and typically don't do anything in public that would immediately identify me as being gay.

Being gay is the smallest thing about who I am as a person and something I don't allow myself to be defined by, seems to have served me well for the near 34 years I've been here. That's also a courtesy I pass on to others and so whilst I've been labelled a bigot and a transphobe I like to think I'm not. I don't give a st whether you're male, female, trans, gay, bi, straight, white, black or brown. I judge individuals purely on their character and their character alone.

Have you ever read ‘The Velvet Rage’?

If you haven’t, you should.

[bitchstewie]

Gecko1978 said:

The video is Dylan talking about their crotch bulge while shopping. They refere to women's genitalia as a barbie pocket. They then sings / raps about women with bulges while wearing tight leather shorts which highlight the bulge.

Dylan records a video every day entitled days of girl hood.

Dylan talks about being a "bimbo"

Dylan has a video of hiking heals where they pretend to be scared of everything

So there you go a synopsis of a few of their own posts. Catlyn Jenner has commented that they do more harm to the trans movement than good

Did someone make you watch it or something?

YouTube and Tik Tok is full of stuff like that.

Perhaps I'm being a bit too simplistic about it but again it seems a bit like someone telling me Andrew Tate is somehow typical of straight men.

[bobbo89]

Dylan Mulvany is nothing but a narcissist desperate for attention, he eventually found a way of finding fame by becoming trans (questionable). For some reason he's championed by certain trans rights activists who seemingly don't realise the damage he's doing to trans people.

Jeffrey Marsh is borderline a child safeguarding danger treading a very fine line telling kids to go no contact with their parents and to talk to him instead. He sells himself as a trans rights advocate but all he does is cause further damage to trans people.

You've then got people like Jordan Gray who played a piano with his dick whilst singing about how he's a better woman than women. Again, more damage to how people view trans people.

I have huge sympathy for trans people trying to negotiate life when these are the people who the public see as representing them. These people are also seen to represent all LGBT people and one of the reasons I don't associate with any of it.

[Biggy Stardust]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Biggy Stardust said:

I'll ignore the insult, btw.

Absolutely no insult intended. I'm not even sure how you extracted one from my post.

"Assuming you have any friends" is a little insulting. I'll overlook it.

I see you still haven't confirmed what rights you lack that others possess. I shall presume from this that you have no evidence to support your claims.

Toodles.

[CT05 Nose Cone]

bhstewie said:

Gecko1978 said:

The video is Dylan talking about their crotch bulge while shopping. They refere to women's genitalia as a barbie pocket. They then sings / raps about women with bulges while wearing tight leather shorts which highlight the bulge.

Dylan records a video every day entitled days of girl hood.

Dylan talks about being a "bimbo"

Dylan has a video of hiking heals where they pretend to be scared of everything

So there you go a synopsis of a few of their own posts. Catlyn Jenner has commented that they do more harm to the trans movement than good

Did someone make you watch it or something?

YouTube and Tik Tok is full of stuff like that.

Perhaps I'm being a bit too simplistic about it but again it seems a bit like someone telling me Andrew Tate is somehow typical of straight men.

Tate is well know as a tt though, whilst Hollywood celebrities are literally getting their knees to praise Dylan.

[Gecko1978]

bhstewie said:

Did someone make you watch it or something?

YouTube and Tik Tok is full of stuff like that.

Perhaps I'm being a bit too simplistic about it but again it seems a bit like someone telling me Andrew Tate is somehow typical of straight men.

To be honest I find Dylan entertaining not in a positive way sadly. I have not been made to watch it, like Tate I find it a bit disturbing. Also like tate Dylan does say some good things about trans rights (his video with Joe Biden), tate talks about exercise and healthy living (he also appears to be fking sex trafficker too).

So is Dylan typical well I said I would bet 1000 that no one acts like they do. But does Dylan have a big voice for the teans community yes 10m plus followers that is Tate levels of influence and no one is saying on balance Tate is a good role model for straight men

[Clockwork Cupcake]

bobbo89 said:

Dylan Mulvany is nothing but a narcissist desperate for attention, he eventually found a way of finding fame by becoming trans (questionable). For some reason he's championed by certain trans rights activists who seemingly don't realise the damage he's doing to trans people.

Jeffrey Marsh is borderline a child safeguarding danger treading a very fine line telling kids to go no contact with their parents and to talk to him instead. He sells himself as a trans rights advocate but all he does is cause further damage to trans people.

You've then got people like Jordan Gray who played a piano with his dick whilst singing about how he's a better woman than women. Again, more damage to how people view trans people.

I have huge sympathy for trans people trying to negotiate life when these are the people who the public see as representing them. These people are also seen to represent all LGBT people and one of the reasons I don't associate with any of it.

Thanks for your support in this post despite you explicitly distancing yourself from trans people in your previous post

I also have "huge sympathy" for you but I will be keeping my back against the wall. Nah just joking. LOL

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Biggy Stardust said:

"Assuming you have any friends" is a little insulting. I'll overlook it.

I see you still haven't confirmed what rights you lack that others possess. I shall presume from this that you have no evidence to support your claims.

Toodles.

Whatever. I can't be bothered to engage with people like you yet again. I am weary of it.

Toodles.

[Biggy Stardust]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Biggy Stardust said:

"Assuming you have any friends" is a little insulting. I'll overlook it.

I see you still haven't confirmed what rights you lack that others possess. I shall presume from this that you have no evidence to support your claims.

Toodles.

Whatever. I can't be bothered to engage with people like you yet again. I am weary of it.

Toodles.

You won't engage people who query your claims of discriminatory oppression? Groovy. I can see how supporting such claims would be wearisome.

Have a nice day.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Biggy Stardust said:

You won't engage people who query your claims of discriminatory oppression? Groovy. I can see how supporting such claims would be wearisome.

Have a nice day.

When you have done the same st 100 times, you can't be arsed with #101 no matter how valid and legit it is.

[bobbo89]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

Thanks for your support in this post despite you explicitly distancing yourself from trans people in your previous post

I also have "huge sympathy" for you but I will be keeping my back against the wall. Nah just joking. LOL

I think you've misunderstood where I stand on all of this. I distance myself from the whole LGBT community stuff, that doesn't mean I don't or won't stand up for trans people.

I suppose my stance is quite complex but don't for a second think I'm transphobic or that I wouldn't have your back, I absolutely would.