Trans woman convicted rapist sent to female prison
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bobbo89 said:
Do I not have a choice in this? It seems pretty f
king homophobic to me to force team me with another group just because of my sexuality.
Again, no. I'm not part of any sort of community, no flag or letter salad represents me nor do I identify with any of it.
No you don’t have a choice to be part of the community because the defined outside of you. I gave examples of why that is. king homophobic to me to force team me with another group just because of my sexuality. Again, no. I'm not part of any sort of community, no flag or letter salad represents me nor do I identify with any of it.
Community isn’t consensus, or necessarily representation. No one is forcing you to be on anyone’s side and being part of the community doesn’t force you to express your sexuality in any particular way, or at all for that matter.
HM-2 said:
Gecko1978 said:
Again youtube or tik tok Dylan Mulveny or Jeffery Marsh then compare them to say Blair White or Catlyn Jenner. Its not the wail making trans people look mental.
How do they "make trans people look mental"? You're literally proving my point here by parroting the views of someone you acknowledge is a conservative pundit whilst pretending that the two examples he's picked, and you've chosen to echo, are representative of trans people as a whole. Is Andrew Tate representative of all cisgender straight men now?You could scarcely have made my point better for me if you'd tried.
t crazy. Jeffery Marsh has some very unsettling views in respect of children an how they act with their parents ( your free to Google or not). I reference Matt Walsh who you have clearly heard of not as a sound or solid example of tolerance (he is not) but as a person who has called out some of the mental Dylan has expressed. I would note Catlyn Jenner has also suggested similar about Dylan.So I don't prove your point I simply got you to at least imply you knew who Matt Walsh was and thus by virtue likely know who Dylan is. Neither are great examples of people one a hard line conservative the other literally mocks what it is to be a women (trans or cis) with almost everything he does.
So I say again its not the wail etc it's the loudest voices some of which are trans that cause the issue. Sounds like Joanne on her lives a normal life with little exposure to hate thankfully but that as they noted does not mean it does not exist.
Kes Arevo said:
Dylan Mulvaney was invited to the whitehouse, and had a one on one with Joe Biden.
He ain't fringe.
https://youtu.be/EQ-yzbzqH4UHe ain't fringe.
Dylan on YouTube
I am willing to bet £1000 that none of the trans members of PH or their supporters have ever done anything like this.
But as has been said Dylan is not fringe Dylan met the president. Stewie does it appear sane behaviour to you
Kes Arevo said:
Dylan Mulvaney was invited to the whitehouse, and had a one on one with Joe Biden.
What's "nuts" about Mulvaney, or whatever pejorative Gecko78 used? A quick Google brings up a lot of regressive right wing folks screeching but very little inclination as to what their actual contention is. HM-2 said:
Kes Arevo said:
Dylan Mulvaney was invited to the whitehouse, and had a one on one with Joe Biden.
What's "nuts" about Mulvaney, or whatever pejorative Gecko78 used? A quick Google brings up a lot of regressive right wing folks screeching but very little inclination as to what their actual contention is. Have a look for yourself Dylans own content
Clockwork Cupcake said:
If it is worth a groat, I have always considered you an ally and have valued you posts.
You always make well-reasoned balanced posts and anyone who thinks otherwise is just moaning that you are not biased toward them
I get that it's a delicate subject and I'm sure there will be things I'll see or hear that I either won't be able to fully wrap my head around or won't necessarily agree with.You always make well-reasoned balanced posts and anyone who thinks otherwise is just moaning that you are not biased toward them
Without wanting to patronise you I expect aspects of your life are or have been difficult enough without having to explain and justify yourself to a bunch of people on an Internet forum when I can't think of anything you'll do that has the slightest impact on them.
I think the thing that leaps to mind is if you rolled back the clock 40 or 50 years you could probably imagine similar conversations about gay people or black people or any other minority and how dare they want certain rights or treatment.
Gecko1978 said:
HM-2 said:
Kes Arevo said:
Dylan Mulvaney was invited to the whitehouse, and had a one on one with Joe Biden.
What's "nuts" about Mulvaney, or whatever pejorative Gecko78 used? A quick Google brings up a lot of regressive right wing folks screeching but very little inclination as to what their actual contention is. Have a look for yourself Dylans own content
HM-2 said:
Kes Arevo said:
Dylan Mulvaney was invited to the whitehouse, and had a one on one with Joe Biden.
What's "nuts" about Mulvaney, or whatever pejorative Gecko78 used? A quick Google brings up a lot of regressive right wing folks screeching but very little inclination as to what their actual contention is. I said he ain't fringe.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Clockwork Cupcake said:
If it is worth a groat, I have always considered you an ally and have valued you posts.
You always make well-reasoned balanced posts and anyone who thinks otherwise is just moaning that you are not biased toward them
I get that it's a delicate subject and I'm sure there will be things I'll see or hear that I either won't be able to fully wrap my head around or won't necessarily agree with.You always make well-reasoned balanced posts and anyone who thinks otherwise is just moaning that you are not biased toward them
Without wanting to patronise you I expect aspects of your life are or have been difficult enough without having to explain and justify yourself to a bunch of people on an Internet forum when I can't think of anything you'll do that has the slightest impact on them.
I think the thing that leaps to mind is if you rolled back the clock 40 or 50 years you could probably imagine similar conversations about gay people or black people or any other minority and how dare they want certain rights or treatment.
The poster who said they were gay but did not want to be part of LGBTQIA+ community again that's fine it's not a club you have to join. As a white male I don't have to have a subscription to Strormfront (I think that's the name of the far right publication). Just as a black person doesn't need to go in a BLM march.
What I said earlier is some loud voices make a group look crazy. So far right Alex Jones bat s
t crazy total head case, trans movement Dylan etc, BLM the women who was then shot in the head at a party by other members of her community. Loudest is not always the majority view
HM-2 said:
Gecko1978 said:
HM-2 said:
Kes Arevo said:
Dylan Mulvaney was invited to the whitehouse, and had a one on one with Joe Biden.
What's "nuts" about Mulvaney, or whatever pejorative Gecko78 used? A quick Google brings up a lot of regressive right wing folks screeching but very little inclination as to what their actual contention is. Have a look for yourself Dylans own content
Dylan records a video every day entitled days of girl hood.
Dylan talks about being a "bimbo"
Dylan has a video of hiking heals where they pretend to be scared of everything
So there you go a synopsis of a few of their own posts. Catlyn Jenner has commented that they do more harm to the trans movement than good
bobbo89 said:
Depends on what you consider hate, I'm incredibly thick skinned and have a very 'couldn't give a fk' attitude to most things so things like hurty words just get laughed off. That's largely due to the industry I work in which is male dominated and typically working class, think I've heard just about every slur you can imagine as well as some quite humorous and inventive new ones.
Never been attacked or faced any violence though but that's probably due to me just being a regular bloke on the surface and typically don't do anything in public that would immediately identify me as being gay.
Being gay is the smallest thing about who I am as a person and something I don't allow myself to be defined by, seems to have served me well for the near 34 years I've been here. That's also a courtesy I pass on to others and so whilst I've been labelled a bigot and a transphobe I like to think I'm not. I don't give a st whether you're male, female, trans, gay, bi, straight, white, black or brown. I judge individuals purely on their character and their character alone.
Have you ever read ‘The Velvet Rage’?k' attitude to most things so things like hurty words just get laughed off. That's largely due to the industry I work in which is male dominated and typically working class, think I've heard just about every slur you can imagine as well as some quite humorous and inventive new ones. Never been attacked or faced any violence though but that's probably due to me just being a regular bloke on the surface and typically don't do anything in public that would immediately identify me as being gay.
Being gay is the smallest thing about who I am as a person and something I don't allow myself to be defined by, seems to have served me well for the near 34 years I've been here. That's also a courtesy I pass on to others and so whilst I've been labelled a bigot and a transphobe I like to think I'm not. I don't give a s
t whether you're male, female, trans, gay, bi, straight, white, black or brown. I judge individuals purely on their character and their character alone. If you haven’t, you should.
Gecko1978 said:
The video is Dylan talking about their crotch bulge while shopping. They refere to women's genitalia as a barbie pocket. They then sings / raps about women with bulges while wearing tight leather shorts which highlight the bulge.
Dylan records a video every day entitled days of girl hood.
Dylan talks about being a "bimbo"
Dylan has a video of hiking heals where they pretend to be scared of everything
So there you go a synopsis of a few of their own posts. Catlyn Jenner has commented that they do more harm to the trans movement than good
Did someone make you watch it or something?Dylan records a video every day entitled days of girl hood.
Dylan talks about being a "bimbo"
Dylan has a video of hiking heals where they pretend to be scared of everything
So there you go a synopsis of a few of their own posts. Catlyn Jenner has commented that they do more harm to the trans movement than good
YouTube and Tik Tok is full of stuff like that.
Perhaps I'm being a bit too simplistic about it but again it seems a bit like someone telling me Andrew Tate is somehow typical of straight men.
Dylan Mulvany is nothing but a narcissist desperate for attention, he eventually found a way of finding fame by becoming trans (questionable). For some reason he's championed by certain trans rights activists who seemingly don't realise the damage he's doing to trans people.
Jeffrey Marsh is borderline a child safeguarding danger treading a very fine line telling kids to go no contact with their parents and to talk to him instead. He sells himself as a trans rights advocate but all he does is cause further damage to trans people.
You've then got people like Jordan Gray who played a piano with his dick whilst singing about how he's a better woman than women. Again, more damage to how people view trans people.
I have huge sympathy for trans people trying to negotiate life when these are the people who the public see as representing them. These people are also seen to represent all LGBT people and one of the reasons I don't associate with any of it.
Jeffrey Marsh is borderline a child safeguarding danger treading a very fine line telling kids to go no contact with their parents and to talk to him instead. He sells himself as a trans rights advocate but all he does is cause further damage to trans people.
You've then got people like Jordan Gray who played a piano with his dick whilst singing about how he's a better woman than women. Again, more damage to how people view trans people.
I have huge sympathy for trans people trying to negotiate life when these are the people who the public see as representing them. These people are also seen to represent all LGBT people and one of the reasons I don't associate with any of it.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Biggy Stardust said:
I'll ignore the insult, btw.
Absolutely no insult intended. I'm not even sure how you extracted one from my post. 
I see you still haven't confirmed what rights you lack that others possess. I shall presume from this that you have no evidence to support your claims.
Toodles.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:Gecko1978 said:
The video is Dylan talking about their crotch bulge while shopping. They refere to women's genitalia as a barbie pocket. They then sings / raps about women with bulges while wearing tight leather shorts which highlight the bulge.
Dylan records a video every day entitled days of girl hood.
Dylan talks about being a "bimbo"
Dylan has a video of hiking heals where they pretend to be scared of everything
So there you go a synopsis of a few of their own posts. Catlyn Jenner has commented that they do more harm to the trans movement than good
Did someone make you watch it or something?Dylan records a video every day entitled days of girl hood.
Dylan talks about being a "bimbo"
Dylan has a video of hiking heals where they pretend to be scared of everything
So there you go a synopsis of a few of their own posts. Catlyn Jenner has commented that they do more harm to the trans movement than good
YouTube and Tik Tok is full of stuff like that.
Perhaps I'm being a bit too simplistic about it but again it seems a bit like someone telling me Andrew Tate is somehow typical of straight men.
t though, whilst Hollywood celebrities are literally getting their knees to praise Dylan.bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Did someone make you watch it or something?
YouTube and Tik Tok is full of stuff like that.
Perhaps I'm being a bit too simplistic about it but again it seems a bit like someone telling me Andrew Tate is somehow typical of straight men.
To be honest I find Dylan entertaining not in a positive way sadly. I have not been made to watch it, like Tate I find it a bit disturbing. Also like tate Dylan does say some good things about trans rights (his video with Joe Biden), tate talks about exercise and healthy living (he also appears to be fYouTube and Tik Tok is full of stuff like that.
Perhaps I'm being a bit too simplistic about it but again it seems a bit like someone telling me Andrew Tate is somehow typical of straight men.
king sex trafficker too).So is Dylan typical well I said I would bet 1000 that no one acts like they do. But does Dylan have a big voice for the teans community yes 10m plus followers that is Tate levels of influence and no one is saying on balance Tate is a good role model for straight men
bobbo89 said:
Dylan Mulvany is nothing but a narcissist desperate for attention, he eventually found a way of finding fame by becoming trans (questionable). For some reason he's championed by certain trans rights activists who seemingly don't realise the damage he's doing to trans people.
Jeffrey Marsh is borderline a child safeguarding danger treading a very fine line telling kids to go no contact with their parents and to talk to him instead. He sells himself as a trans rights advocate but all he does is cause further damage to trans people.
You've then got people like Jordan Gray who played a piano with his dick whilst singing about how he's a better woman than women. Again, more damage to how people view trans people.
I have huge sympathy for trans people trying to negotiate life when these are the people who the public see as representing them. These people are also seen to represent all LGBT people and one of the reasons I don't associate with any of it.
Thanks for your support in this post despite you explicitly distancing yourself from trans people in your previous postJeffrey Marsh is borderline a child safeguarding danger treading a very fine line telling kids to go no contact with their parents and to talk to him instead. He sells himself as a trans rights advocate but all he does is cause further damage to trans people.
You've then got people like Jordan Gray who played a piano with his dick whilst singing about how he's a better woman than women. Again, more damage to how people view trans people.
I have huge sympathy for trans people trying to negotiate life when these are the people who the public see as representing them. These people are also seen to represent all LGBT people and one of the reasons I don't associate with any of it.
I also have "huge sympathy" for you but I will be keeping my back against the wall. Nah just joking. LOL
Biggy Stardust said:
"Assuming you have any friends" is a little insulting. I'll overlook it.
I see you still haven't confirmed what rights you lack that others possess. I shall presume from this that you have no evidence to support your claims.
Toodles.
Whatever. I can't be bothered to engage with people like you yet again. I am weary of it. I see you still haven't confirmed what rights you lack that others possess. I shall presume from this that you have no evidence to support your claims.
Toodles.
Toodles.
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