Trans woman convicted rapist sent to female prison
Discussion
Gecko1978 said:
chrispmartha said:
great film
there must be concensus on this issue surely somewhere that does not go so far as saying "Oi you in the wrong toilet" or the other way "yes of course you are a non biney pixie nurodivergent pix with a colour gender" (I made that up based on a insta real I saw where someone did make a similar claim about being a women while having stubble like Jason Statham and claming to be a furry at same time)
So to start the concensus:
The prison service got it right with Isla Bryson, they followed protocol and made the correct judement while safegaurding other prisoners and the indvidual.
When they sent them to a female prison? Or when they changed their mind and sent them to a male prison?
Dis Sturgeon get it right when she said Bryson isn't a woman and is 'almost certainly faking it'? Or did she get it right when she continuously described Bryson a female after that?
Was Humza Yousaf right when he admitted he thinks Bryson is not a genuine woman? Or were the people who reported him to the police for a hate crime right?
Pure examples of the left eating the left. Sturgeon and Yousaf are absolute advocates for this kind of stuff - and in the end admitted this guy isn't a woman, which caused other lefties to call the police!
RobbieTheTruth said:
They got it right when?
When they sent them to a female prison? Or when they changed their mind and sent them to a male prison?
Dis Sturgeon get it right when she said Bryson isn't a woman and is 'almost certainly faking it'? Or did she get it right when she continuously described Bryson a female after that?
Was Humza Yousaf right when he admitted he thinks Bryson is not a genuine woman? Or were the people who reported him to the police for a hate crime right?
Pure examples of the left eating the left. Sturgeon and Yousaf are absolute advocates for this kind of stuff - and in the end admitted this guy isn't a woman, which caused other lefties to call the police!
They got it right all the way through When they sent them to a female prison? Or when they changed their mind and sent them to a male prison?
Dis Sturgeon get it right when she said Bryson isn't a woman and is 'almost certainly faking it'? Or did she get it right when she continuously described Bryson a female after that?
Was Humza Yousaf right when he admitted he thinks Bryson is not a genuine woman? Or were the people who reported him to the police for a hate crime right?
Pure examples of the left eating the left. Sturgeon and Yousaf are absolute advocates for this kind of stuff - and in the end admitted this guy isn't a woman, which caused other lefties to call the police!
1) the incarcerated them
2) based on their claim they initially put them in Seg in a womens prison
3) based on further evidence they challenged their claim
4) they found Bryson was not truly trans
5) they moved them to a male facility
6) post this event they reviwed their polocies
No one was harmed
my only criticisum is someone in Cornton Vale who might have needed a place in Seg might have been deniend becaue of this but that is a assumption with no evidence
Gecko1978 said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
They got it right when?
When they sent them to a female prison? Or when they changed their mind and sent them to a male prison?
Dis Sturgeon get it right when she said Bryson isn't a woman and is 'almost certainly faking it'? Or did she get it right when she continuously described Bryson a female after that?
Was Humza Yousaf right when he admitted he thinks Bryson is not a genuine woman? Or were the people who reported him to the police for a hate crime right?
Pure examples of the left eating the left. Sturgeon and Yousaf are absolute advocates for this kind of stuff - and in the end admitted this guy isn't a woman, which caused other lefties to call the police!
They got it right all the way through When they sent them to a female prison? Or when they changed their mind and sent them to a male prison?
Dis Sturgeon get it right when she said Bryson isn't a woman and is 'almost certainly faking it'? Or did she get it right when she continuously described Bryson a female after that?
Was Humza Yousaf right when he admitted he thinks Bryson is not a genuine woman? Or were the people who reported him to the police for a hate crime right?
Pure examples of the left eating the left. Sturgeon and Yousaf are absolute advocates for this kind of stuff - and in the end admitted this guy isn't a woman, which caused other lefties to call the police!
1) the incarcerated them
2) based on their claim they initially put them in Seg in a womens prison
3) based on further evidence they challenged their claim
4) they found Bryson was not truly trans
5) they moved them to a male facility
6) post this event they reviwed their polocies
No one was harmed
my only criticisum is someone in Cornton Vale who might have needed a place in Seg might have been deniend becaue of this but that is a assumption with no evidence
They got it right 'all the way through' when they put a male (in your own definition) who raped two women in a women's prison?
RobbieTheTruth said:
Gecko1978 said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
They got it right when?
When they sent them to a female prison? Or when they changed their mind and sent them to a male prison?
Dis Sturgeon get it right when she said Bryson isn't a woman and is 'almost certainly faking it'? Or did she get it right when she continuously described Bryson a female after that?
Was Humza Yousaf right when he admitted he thinks Bryson is not a genuine woman? Or were the people who reported him to the police for a hate crime right?
Pure examples of the left eating the left. Sturgeon and Yousaf are absolute advocates for this kind of stuff - and in the end admitted this guy isn't a woman, which caused other lefties to call the police!
They got it right all the way through When they sent them to a female prison? Or when they changed their mind and sent them to a male prison?
Dis Sturgeon get it right when she said Bryson isn't a woman and is 'almost certainly faking it'? Or did she get it right when she continuously described Bryson a female after that?
Was Humza Yousaf right when he admitted he thinks Bryson is not a genuine woman? Or were the people who reported him to the police for a hate crime right?
Pure examples of the left eating the left. Sturgeon and Yousaf are absolute advocates for this kind of stuff - and in the end admitted this guy isn't a woman, which caused other lefties to call the police!
1) the incarcerated them
2) based on their claim they initially put them in Seg in a womens prison
3) based on further evidence they challenged their claim
4) they found Bryson was not truly trans
5) they moved them to a male facility
6) post this event they reviwed their polocies
No one was harmed
my only criticisum is someone in Cornton Vale who might have needed a place in Seg might have been deniend becaue of this but that is a assumption with no evidence
They got it right 'all the way through' when they put a male (in your own definition) who raped two women in a women's prison?
You are the definition of arguing in bad faith.
RobbieTheTruth said:
Gecko1978 said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
They got it right when?
When they sent them to a female prison? Or when they changed their mind and sent them to a male prison?
Dis Sturgeon get it right when she said Bryson isn't a woman and is 'almost certainly faking it'? Or did she get it right when she continuously described Bryson a female after that?
Was Humza Yousaf right when he admitted he thinks Bryson is not a genuine woman? Or were the people who reported him to the police for a hate crime right?
Pure examples of the left eating the left. Sturgeon and Yousaf are absolute advocates for this kind of stuff - and in the end admitted this guy isn't a woman, which caused other lefties to call the police!
They got it right all the way through When they sent them to a female prison? Or when they changed their mind and sent them to a male prison?
Dis Sturgeon get it right when she said Bryson isn't a woman and is 'almost certainly faking it'? Or did she get it right when she continuously described Bryson a female after that?
Was Humza Yousaf right when he admitted he thinks Bryson is not a genuine woman? Or were the people who reported him to the police for a hate crime right?
Pure examples of the left eating the left. Sturgeon and Yousaf are absolute advocates for this kind of stuff - and in the end admitted this guy isn't a woman, which caused other lefties to call the police!
1) the incarcerated them
2) based on their claim they initially put them in Seg in a womens prison
3) based on further evidence they challenged their claim
4) they found Bryson was not truly trans
5) they moved them to a male facility
6) post this event they reviwed their polocies
No one was harmed
my only criticisum is someone in Cornton Vale who might have needed a place in Seg might have been deniend becaue of this but that is a assumption with no evidence
They got it right 'all the way through' when they put a male (in your own definition) who raped two women in a women's prison?
RobbieTheTruth said:
Are you serious?
They got it right 'all the way through' when they put a male (in your own definition) who raped two women in a women's prison?
Do you see Robbie, this is why no one will talk to you. Gecko gave a perfectly reasonable answer to your question and you went off the deep end.They got it right 'all the way through' when they put a male (in your own definition) who raped two women in a women's prison?
chrispmartha said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
Gecko1978 said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
They got it right when?
When they sent them to a female prison? Or when they changed their mind and sent them to a male prison?
Dis Sturgeon get it right when she said Bryson isn't a woman and is 'almost certainly faking it'? Or did she get it right when she continuously described Bryson a female after that?
Was Humza Yousaf right when he admitted he thinks Bryson is not a genuine woman? Or were the people who reported him to the police for a hate crime right?
Pure examples of the left eating the left. Sturgeon and Yousaf are absolute advocates for this kind of stuff - and in the end admitted this guy isn't a woman, which caused other lefties to call the police!
They got it right all the way through When they sent them to a female prison? Or when they changed their mind and sent them to a male prison?
Dis Sturgeon get it right when she said Bryson isn't a woman and is 'almost certainly faking it'? Or did she get it right when she continuously described Bryson a female after that?
Was Humza Yousaf right when he admitted he thinks Bryson is not a genuine woman? Or were the people who reported him to the police for a hate crime right?
Pure examples of the left eating the left. Sturgeon and Yousaf are absolute advocates for this kind of stuff - and in the end admitted this guy isn't a woman, which caused other lefties to call the police!
1) the incarcerated them
2) based on their claim they initially put them in Seg in a womens prison
3) based on further evidence they challenged their claim
4) they found Bryson was not truly trans
5) they moved them to a male facility
6) post this event they reviwed their polocies
No one was harmed
my only criticisum is someone in Cornton Vale who might have needed a place in Seg might have been deniend becaue of this but that is a assumption with no evidence
They got it right 'all the way through' when they put a male (in your own definition) who raped two women in a women's prison?
You are the definition of arguing in bad faith.
The poster answered and said they got it right 'all the way through'.
I strongly disagree, and point out that how they handled it resulted in a national backlash, a complete u-turn, getting them out of a womens prison and into a mens, two left leaning politicians admitting they think Bryson isn't really a women etc.
How is that ignoring the answer.
It's debating it on a forum.
How do you think it was handled?
ZedLeg said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
Are you serious?
They got it right 'all the way through' when they put a male (in your own definition) who raped two women in a women's prison?
Do you see Robbie, this is why no one will talk to you. Gecko gave a perfectly reasonable answer to your question and you went off the deep end.They got it right 'all the way through' when they put a male (in your own definition) who raped two women in a women's prison?
Obviously, I believe saying they got it right 'all the way' through couldn't have been more wrong IMO.
At least he gave an answer.
How do you feel it was handled?
RobbieTheTruth said:
How is disagreeing with it ignoring it?
The poster answered and said they got it right 'all the way through'.
I strongly disagree, and point out that how they handled it resulted in a national backlash, a complete u-turn, getting them out of a womens prison and into a mens, two left leaning politicians admitting they think Bryson isn't really a women etc.
How is that ignoring the answer.
It's debating it on a forum.
How do you think it was handled?
To be honest I regret replying now as I have absolutely no interest in discussing this issue with you.The poster answered and said they got it right 'all the way through'.
I strongly disagree, and point out that how they handled it resulted in a national backlash, a complete u-turn, getting them out of a womens prison and into a mens, two left leaning politicians admitting they think Bryson isn't really a women etc.
How is that ignoring the answer.
It's debating it on a forum.
How do you think it was handled?
Rivenink said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
Gecko1978 said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
They got it right when?
When they sent them to a female prison? Or when they changed their mind and sent them to a male prison?
Dis Sturgeon get it right when she said Bryson isn't a woman and is 'almost certainly faking it'? Or did she get it right when she continuously described Bryson a female after that?
Was Humza Yousaf right when he admitted he thinks Bryson is not a genuine woman? Or were the people who reported him to the police for a hate crime right?
Pure examples of the left eating the left. Sturgeon and Yousaf are absolute advocates for this kind of stuff - and in the end admitted this guy isn't a woman, which caused other lefties to call the police!
They got it right all the way through When they sent them to a female prison? Or when they changed their mind and sent them to a male prison?
Dis Sturgeon get it right when she said Bryson isn't a woman and is 'almost certainly faking it'? Or did she get it right when she continuously described Bryson a female after that?
Was Humza Yousaf right when he admitted he thinks Bryson is not a genuine woman? Or were the people who reported him to the police for a hate crime right?
Pure examples of the left eating the left. Sturgeon and Yousaf are absolute advocates for this kind of stuff - and in the end admitted this guy isn't a woman, which caused other lefties to call the police!
1) the incarcerated them
2) based on their claim they initially put them in Seg in a womens prison
3) based on further evidence they challenged their claim
4) they found Bryson was not truly trans
5) they moved them to a male facility
6) post this event they reviwed their polocies
No one was harmed
my only criticisum is someone in Cornton Vale who might have needed a place in Seg might have been deniend becaue of this but that is a assumption with no evidence
They got it right 'all the way through' when they put a male (in your own definition) who raped two women in a women's prison?
chrispmartha said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
How is disagreeing with it ignoring it?
The poster answered and said they got it right 'all the way through'.
I strongly disagree, and point out that how they handled it resulted in a national backlash, a complete u-turn, getting them out of a womens prison and into a mens, two left leaning politicians admitting they think Bryson isn't really a women etc.
How is that ignoring the answer.
It's debating it on a forum.
How do you think it was handled?
To be honest I regret replying now as I have absolutely no interest in discussing this issue with you.The poster answered and said they got it right 'all the way through'.
I strongly disagree, and point out that how they handled it resulted in a national backlash, a complete u-turn, getting them out of a womens prison and into a mens, two left leaning politicians admitting they think Bryson isn't really a women etc.
How is that ignoring the answer.
It's debating it on a forum.
How do you think it was handled?
You won't admit you think Sturgeon was right in the end and Bryson isn't a woman?
You won't admit that you believe Bryson is a woman and should be housed accordingly?
You can't answer the question truthfully because the answer doesn't match your agena?
So you'll walk away AGAIN and say people are arguing in bad faith etc.
Just offer an opinion? It's only a forum?
RobbieTheTruth said:
Because you won't admit what you believe?
You won't admit you think Sturgeon was right in the end and Bryson isn't a woman?
You won't admit that you believe Bryson is a woman and should be housed accordingly?
You can't answer the question truthfully because the answer doesn't match your agena?
So you'll walk away AGAIN and say people are arguing in bad faith etc.
Just offer an opinion? It's only a forum?
You could just read through this thread? I think all the people you are accusing of not being open with their opinion all talked about it at the time. You won't admit you think Sturgeon was right in the end and Bryson isn't a woman?
You won't admit that you believe Bryson is a woman and should be housed accordingly?
You can't answer the question truthfully because the answer doesn't match your agena?
So you'll walk away AGAIN and say people are arguing in bad faith etc.
Just offer an opinion? It's only a forum?
gregs656 said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
Because you won't admit what you believe?
You won't admit you think Sturgeon was right in the end and Bryson isn't a woman?
You won't admit that you believe Bryson is a woman and should be housed accordingly?
You can't answer the question truthfully because the answer doesn't match your agena?
So you'll walk away AGAIN and say people are arguing in bad faith etc.
Just offer an opinion? It's only a forum?
You could just read through this thread? I think all the people you are accusing of not being open with their opinion all talked about it at the time. You won't admit you think Sturgeon was right in the end and Bryson isn't a woman?
You won't admit that you believe Bryson is a woman and should be housed accordingly?
You can't answer the question truthfully because the answer doesn't match your agena?
So you'll walk away AGAIN and say people are arguing in bad faith etc.
Just offer an opinion? It's only a forum?
RobbieTheTruth said:
Deep end? I just disagree with his answer? I'm not wishing hard on anyone or calling anyone any names?
Obviously, I believe saying they got it right 'all the way' through couldn't have been more wrong IMO.
At least he gave an answer.
How do you feel it was handled?
Given Bryson was only ever in a women's prison in isolation, it basically doesn't matter whether or not whether it was a men's or woman's prison they were evaluated in. Which was pointed out a very early in this absurd, 80+ page mountain-out-of-a-molehill thread. Obviously, I believe saying they got it right 'all the way' through couldn't have been more wrong IMO.
At least he gave an answer.
How do you feel it was handled?
And which I'm fairly sure you knew.
So there was never a risk to other inmates, was there?
So your key contention about the case here is, frankly, b
ks. You have exactly zero evidence there was ever a chance of Bryson actually being incarnated amongst other women. RobbieTheTruth said:
chrispmartha said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
How is disagreeing with it ignoring it?
The poster answered and said they got it right 'all the way through'.
I strongly disagree, and point out that how they handled it resulted in a national backlash, a complete u-turn, getting them out of a womens prison and into a mens, two left leaning politicians admitting they think Bryson isn't really a women etc.
How is that ignoring the answer.
It's debating it on a forum.
How do you think it was handled?
To be honest I regret replying now as I have absolutely no interest in discussing this issue with you.The poster answered and said they got it right 'all the way through'.
I strongly disagree, and point out that how they handled it resulted in a national backlash, a complete u-turn, getting them out of a womens prison and into a mens, two left leaning politicians admitting they think Bryson isn't really a women etc.
How is that ignoring the answer.
It's debating it on a forum.
How do you think it was handled?
You won't admit you think Sturgeon was right in the end and Bryson isn't a woman?
You won't admit that you believe Bryson is a woman and should be housed accordingly?
You can't answer the question truthfully because the answer doesn't match your agena?
So you'll walk away AGAIN and say people are arguing in bad faith etc.
Just offer an opinion? It's only a forum?
Just look at the absolute state of your reply I'm quoting.
chrispmartha said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
chrispmartha said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
How is disagreeing with it ignoring it?
The poster answered and said they got it right 'all the way through'.
I strongly disagree, and point out that how they handled it resulted in a national backlash, a complete u-turn, getting them out of a womens prison and into a mens, two left leaning politicians admitting they think Bryson isn't really a women etc.
How is that ignoring the answer.
It's debating it on a forum.
How do you think it was handled?
To be honest I regret replying now as I have absolutely no interest in discussing this issue with you.The poster answered and said they got it right 'all the way through'.
I strongly disagree, and point out that how they handled it resulted in a national backlash, a complete u-turn, getting them out of a womens prison and into a mens, two left leaning politicians admitting they think Bryson isn't really a women etc.
How is that ignoring the answer.
It's debating it on a forum.
How do you think it was handled?
You won't admit you think Sturgeon was right in the end and Bryson isn't a woman?
You won't admit that you believe Bryson is a woman and should be housed accordingly?
You can't answer the question truthfully because the answer doesn't match your agena?
So you'll walk away AGAIN and say people are arguing in bad faith etc.
Just offer an opinion? It's only a forum?
Just look at the absolute state of your reply I'm quoting.
HM-2 said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
Deep end? I just disagree with his answer? I'm not wishing hard on anyone or calling anyone any names?
Obviously, I believe saying they got it right 'all the way' through couldn't have been more wrong IMO.
At least he gave an answer.
How do you feel it was handled?
Given Bryson was only ever in a women's prison in isolation, it basically doesn't matter whether or not whether it was a men's or woman's prison they were evaluated in. Which was pointed out a very early in this absurd, 80+ page mountain-out-of-a-molehill thread. Obviously, I believe saying they got it right 'all the way' through couldn't have been more wrong IMO.
At least he gave an answer.
How do you feel it was handled?
And which I'm fairly sure you knew.
So there was never a risk to other inmates, was there?
So your key contention about the case here is, frankly, b
ks. You have exactly zero evidence there was ever a chance of Bryson actually being incarnated amongst other women. Do you genuinely think they will just keep trans prisoners in permanent solitary confinement if they acted in violence?
RobbieTheTruth said:
chrispmartha said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
chrispmartha said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
How is disagreeing with it ignoring it?
The poster answered and said they got it right 'all the way through'.
I strongly disagree, and point out that how they handled it resulted in a national backlash, a complete u-turn, getting them out of a womens prison and into a mens, two left leaning politicians admitting they think Bryson isn't really a women etc.
How is that ignoring the answer.
It's debating it on a forum.
How do you think it was handled?
To be honest I regret replying now as I have absolutely no interest in discussing this issue with you.The poster answered and said they got it right 'all the way through'.
I strongly disagree, and point out that how they handled it resulted in a national backlash, a complete u-turn, getting them out of a womens prison and into a mens, two left leaning politicians admitting they think Bryson isn't really a women etc.
How is that ignoring the answer.
It's debating it on a forum.
How do you think it was handled?
You won't admit you think Sturgeon was right in the end and Bryson isn't a woman?
You won't admit that you believe Bryson is a woman and should be housed accordingly?
You can't answer the question truthfully because the answer doesn't match your agena?
So you'll walk away AGAIN and say people are arguing in bad faith etc.
Just offer an opinion? It's only a forum?
Just look at the absolute state of your reply I'm quoting.
RobbieTheTruth said:
They haven't.
Yes they have. Starts from page 20.Here's one example:
ZedLeg said:
They're having an argument with themselves. I don't think anyone said that this person should be in a women's prison. Personally I just laid out the process of how it's decided. They decided that this person shouldn't go there, so that's that.
and an agreementchrispmartha said:
Precisely
This was all raked over 2 months a go. chrispmartha said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
chrispmartha said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
chrispmartha said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
How is disagreeing with it ignoring it?
The poster answered and said they got it right 'all the way through'.
I strongly disagree, and point out that how they handled it resulted in a national backlash, a complete u-turn, getting them out of a womens prison and into a mens, two left leaning politicians admitting they think Bryson isn't really a women etc.
How is that ignoring the answer.
It's debating it on a forum.
How do you think it was handled?
To be honest I regret replying now as I have absolutely no interest in discussing this issue with you.The poster answered and said they got it right 'all the way through'.
I strongly disagree, and point out that how they handled it resulted in a national backlash, a complete u-turn, getting them out of a womens prison and into a mens, two left leaning politicians admitting they think Bryson isn't really a women etc.
How is that ignoring the answer.
It's debating it on a forum.
How do you think it was handled?
You won't admit you think Sturgeon was right in the end and Bryson isn't a woman?
You won't admit that you believe Bryson is a woman and should be housed accordingly?
You can't answer the question truthfully because the answer doesn't match your agena?
So you'll walk away AGAIN and say people are arguing in bad faith etc.
Just offer an opinion? It's only a forum?
Just look at the absolute state of your reply I'm quoting.
I believe given the choice, you'd prefer to see her in a women's prison?
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