ULEZ protest Trafalgar Square
Discussion
Randy Winkman said:
Jasandjules said:
youngsyr said:
Signs for the extension have already gone up where I am. Seems like its a done deal.
Only if people comply. If only I could afford to drive it to London
plenty said:
valiant said:
So what was the turnout?
I didn’t see anything on the news and judging by the anger on here and elsewhere I’d expect thousands to have turned up and make themselves heard.
I strongly suspect that:I didn’t see anything on the news and judging by the anger on here and elsewhere I’d expect thousands to have turned up and make themselves heard.
(a) the anger on here and other online platforms does not represent the views of the wider public or at least the people who actually live in the ULEZ area;
(b) because a very large proportion of the angry don't actually live in London it's too far for them to want to travel to a protest; and
(c) many of the angry are of the age where sitting on the sofa in their slippers is far more appealing than standing outside in the rain for hours.
It'll have to get worse before the reality becomes apparent to the idiots. It always does.
BTW Commenting on some of the actions re: the cameras may be an excuse to delete the thread.
plenty said:
I strongly suspect that:
(a) the anger on here and other online platforms does not represent the views of the wider public or at least the people who actually live in the ULEZ area;
(b) because a very large proportion of the angry don't actually live in London it's too far for them to want to travel to a protest; and
(c) many of the angry are of the age where sitting on the sofa in their slippers is far more appealing than standing outside in the rain for hours.
Well, speaking as one of those locals firmly opposed to ULEZ expansion, I'd suggest that:(a) the anger on here and other online platforms does not represent the views of the wider public or at least the people who actually live in the ULEZ area;
(b) because a very large proportion of the angry don't actually live in London it's too far for them to want to travel to a protest; and
(c) many of the angry are of the age where sitting on the sofa in their slippers is far more appealing than standing outside in the rain for hours.
a) Whilst there are some locals who pop up on the likes of Nextdoor to profess support for the ULEZ expansion, the maority of local opinion, at least from those who can be bothered to say anything about it is really rather negative.
b) Given the scope of the expansion, and the number of non-Londoners affected by it (like, all those people working at Heathrow, or in hospitals, fire stations, schools etc, who commute into Greater London from the surrounding counties), it's not unreasonable that there's a significant level of opposition to the scheme from those who were given no say in it, and have no way to express their feelings towards our dear leader next May.
c) Or are simply too busy with work and family committments to be able to spare the time to trek into central London.
On the continent cameras have been attacked on mass I believe in France till they were removed. I dint think damaging 3 or 4 will make a difference. 3 or 4 hundred maybe but I won't advocate people breaking the law. Rather direct action needs to be significantly greater to force change. Think industrial action poll tax non payment and riots.
Gecko1978 said:
On the continent cameras have been attacked on mass I believe in France till they were removed. I dint think damaging 3 or 4 will make a difference. 3 or 4 hundred maybe but I won't advocate people breaking the law. Rather direct action needs to be significantly greater to force change. Think industrial action poll tax non payment and riots.
They tried this with speed cameras in Western Australia. The police just started watching/filming the cameras and charging those who attempted it.
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