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otolith

60,217 posts

215 months

Monday 24th February
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Solocle said:
One of the biggest barriers to peace negotiations is the constant Palestinian insistence on a right to return to Israel, rather than to a future Palestinian state.
Where should that be?

Solocle

3,718 posts

95 months

Tuesday 25th February
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otolith said:
Solocle said:
One of the biggest barriers to peace negotiations is the constant Palestinian insistence on a right to return to Israel, rather than to a future Palestinian state.
Where should that be?
Determined by final status negotiations, which would require the Palestinians to actually acknowledge some form of defeat, rather than trying to spin everything as a victory.

At its core, the Gaza Strip, cities like Jenin. Nablus associates with biblical Shechem, but there's very little to be said about that. Now, Hebron, on the other hand? It had an ancient Jewish community until they were slaughtered by the Palestinian Arabs in 1929. The cave of the patriarchs is there, and it's literally from the same root as Hebrew.

Now, I think Kiryat Arba isn't really the way to carry on, and Hebron will become fully Palestinian. But make no mistake, conceding such a culturally important city is a big concession.

Major settlement blocks like Maale Adumim, and Gush Etzion (which likewise was ethnically cleansed by Palestinian Arabs in 1948, and is right on the border anyway), become Israel.

Territorially, it's not actually a complex problem, apart from Jerusalem.

fizz47

2,884 posts

221 months

Tuesday 25th February
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Funny how everyone goes quiet on the forced replacement part that happening right now but suddenly wants to give their version of history of past events..

weird also how that version of history is the same version spouted by the country that’s doing the text book definition of ethnic cleanisng ..

But sure carry on with Israeli propaganda as I’m sure it will magically legitimise their crimes …

Weird world we live in ……where Israel and its lovely supporters align with far right groups and people who have a known history of of anti-semitism but applying humanitarian law to the great state of Israel makes you the criminal …


fido

17,524 posts

266 months

Tuesday 25th February
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fizz47 said:
Funny how everyone goes quiet on the forced replacement part that happening right now but suddenly wants to give their version of history of past events..
because they are on the payroll of Qatar?

"Algeria, where are your Jews?" — Hillel Neuer silences the U.N. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35eEljsSQfc

Vanden Saab

15,434 posts

85 months

Tuesday 25th February
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link said:
Two members of the European Parliament who traveled to Israel on Monday were denied entry to the country and were sent back to Europe.
Irish MEP Lynn Boylan and French-Palestinian MEP Rima Hassan, both of whom belong to The Left group and have been critical of Israeli policy, were turned away at Ben Gurion Airport near Tel Aviv shortly after landing.
https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-mep-europe-...

From the river to the seat 34b

SlimJim16v

6,425 posts

154 months

Tuesday 25th February
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Tanks now in the West Bank. Four children killed there this week.

Captain Obvious

5,761 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th February
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SlimJim16v said:
Tanks now in the West Bank. Four children killed there this week.
Well that'll happen if you give tanks to kids.

Biker 1

8,070 posts

130 months

Wednesday 26th February
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Funeral procession now underway for Bibas family: www.ynetnews.com/article/rks5g725ke
This has touched a nerve & attitudes are now hardening. If/when hostilities resume, I think the Israelis will go in much harder to finish off hamas militarily.

otolith

60,217 posts

215 months

Wednesday 26th February
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Biker 1 said:
Funeral procession now underway for Bibas family: www.ynetnews.com/article/rks5g725ke
This has touched a nerve & attitudes are now hardening. If/when hostilities resume, I think the Israelis will go in much harder to finish off hamas militarily.
Family not happy that Netanyahu is using the details of their deaths for that purpose;

https://www.timesofisrael.com/bibas-family-tells-n...

Scrimpton

12,778 posts

248 months

Saturday 8th March
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https://x.com/elicalebon/status/189845166648116057...

I'm sure some of the pro-Palestinian retards on here were crying about Israel occupying parts of Syria. Seems sensible in retrospect.

Zed 44

1,275 posts

167 months

Sunday 9th March
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Biker 1 said:
Funeral procession now underway for Bibas family: www.ynetnews.com/article/rks5g725ke
This has touched a nerve & attitudes are now hardening. If/when hostilities resume, I think the Israelis will go in much harder to finish off hamas militarily.
When they do that, it will only produce more Hamas. It even dawned on the idiot Blinken, unless of course you successfully commit genocide and wipe out every single Palestinian and every supporter world wide.

fizz47

2,884 posts

221 months

Sunday 9th March
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Israel doing what they do best .. going back on their agreement of a ceasefire and now going to cut electricity off to all of Gaza.

Collective punishment is something we have seen before in the past … only the depraved and sick in the head will support this ..


This is the kind of move the ICJ specifically warned against in its ongoing genocide case

It’s a reminder Gaza is indeed occupied, despite hasbara claims to the contrary, as Israel wouldn’t be able to exert such control at the flick of a switch over a non-occupied place.


But then I suppose this is expected from a country whose democratically elected leaders boast about killing Arabs who or openly call for the expulsion of all Palestinians….

Still see people are stupid enough to not know the difference of supporting innocent Palestinians and equating that to Hamas

Solocle

3,718 posts

95 months

Sunday 9th March
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fizz47 said:
Israel doing what they do best .. going back on their agreement of a ceasefire and now going to cut electricity off to all of Gaza.
The ceasefire agreement that expired on 1st March?

How do you break something that no longer exists?


Edited by Solocle on Sunday 9th March 21:51

MKnight702

3,230 posts

225 months

Monday 10th March
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fizz47 said:
Israel doing what they do best .. going back on their agreement of a ceasefire and now going to cut electricity off to all of Gaza.
Tell me why you believe that Israel should supply electricity to Gaza. Have Hamas not has sufficient time and indeed money to build their own power stations? Tell me of any other countries that are vilified for not providing the basic needs of enemy states, especially ones that are actively trying to wipe out the donor country.

fizz47

2,884 posts

221 months

Monday 10th March
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Apart from the fact it’s against basic humanity to allow people to have basic supplies otherwise you end ip situation where innocent people die unnecessarily

Oh hang on — Israel already did that again and again

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62k676gk34o.amp


This would also be worthy of an answer if people bothered to read up just the tiniest bit of history and facts on how the good state of Israel restricts what is and isn’t allowed in Gaza rather than propaganda from a state that’s carrying out illegal settlements and killing , torturing and raping innocent Palestinians without being held to account..


Most people with any decent morality ask the question ‘how can we stop innocent people dying.’?

The depraved ask the question ‘why doesn't Israel have the right to do what they do’ even if it’s illegal or even if it’s abhorrent when someone like Putin does it but all of a sudden there should be special rules for the great state of Israel…

Just look at leaders and their genocidal statements which tells you all you need to know about supporters of Israeli crimes ..




Panamax

5,511 posts

45 months

Monday 10th March
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MKnight702 said:
Tell me why you believe that Israel should supply electricity to Gaza.
For much the same reason that UK didn't shut off the power in Northern Ireland when the IRA was bombing the mainland.
Israel continues to plumb the absolute depths of inhumanity.

otolith

60,217 posts

215 months

Monday 10th March
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MKnight702 said:
Have Hamas not has sufficient time and indeed money to build their own power stations?
They have one. It runs on fuel oil. The supply of which has historically been subject to political interference from the Palestinian Authority and from Israel. And which has been blockaded during the current conflict. Had it been able to continue working, you think it wouldn't have been flattened? They are utterly reliant on Israel's discretion for power because that's how Israel likes it.

Carl_VivaEspana

13,805 posts

273 months

Monday 10th March
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Some of the incidents made the news but a bunch of London city offices were vandalised last night by at least one anti Israeli group.

fizz47

2,884 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th March
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Meanwhile in actual news about people dying

ITV News has been shown shocking video of paramedics being shot at by Israeli troops, in the Occupied West Bank, as they tried to help a Palestinian grandmother who'd herself been shot by Israeli soldiers

https://www.itv.com/news/2025-03-10/video-evidence...

Such a moral country that we should all be sticking up for… ..

fizz47

2,884 posts

221 months

Thursday
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In which country have we seen this behaviour before?

Hint … the country was in Europe ..

The democratic state of Israel right….

The lovely country where you can go on national TV and openly support killing, torturing, sexually abusing Palestinians and the society think that’s acceptable but but have a book store that supports rights of Palestinians and books will be removed and owners accepted …

Weirdly some of those authors whose books were removed were Jewish … but not a peep about anti-semitism from the usual suspects of even the propaganda mouthpiece Friends of Israel .

It’s only any-Semitic if you dare to humanise Palestinians as this thread as shown again and again ..


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/11/isra...