Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12
Discussion
alangla said:
irc said:
And again in The Times - The editorial discusses Sturgeon's delition of messages.
"When the first hand evidence that might have cast light on life and death decisions has been destroyed, we are in the realms of autocracy."
Well quite. We have been saying that here for a long time. The media are still just waking up to Sturgeon's govt. For some reason the UK media gave her an pass. They didn't even have the excuse of the SCottish media that the SNP and cyber loons would make their life difficult for criticising Saint Nicola.
I’m not sure they are. Contrast the front page of the national rags https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-680385... with the Scottish ones https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0q8ye26pvo"When the first hand evidence that might have cast light on life and death decisions has been destroyed, we are in the realms of autocracy."
Well quite. We have been saying that here for a long time. The media are still just waking up to Sturgeon's govt. For some reason the UK media gave her an pass. They didn't even have the excuse of the SCottish media that the SNP and cyber loons would make their life difficult for criticising Saint Nicola.
Edited by irc on Saturday 20th January 10:04
The Telegraph is the only national one giving any coverage at all and you won’t find anything on the BBC website outside the Scottish section. There’s still more interest in Boris’s birthday cake than in what this has shown. If you were to substitute Sturgeon, Swinney and Leitch for Jonson, Hancock and Whitty, then the outcry would make the post office drama reaction seem like nothing but because it’s Scotland no-one is bothered.
Sadly I suspect this won’t result in the outcome that we all know it should.
Otherwise Scotland is utterly doomed irrespective what flavour of gravy is running the train at any particular time. This mode of unaccountable and absent governance will otherwise continue to be holy grail of the professional grifter.
dxg said:
It has to result in jail time - even if just for a symbolic few.
Otherwise Scotland is utterly doomed irrespective what flavour of gravy is running the train at any particular time. This mode of unaccountable and absent governance will otherwise continue to be holy grail of the professional grifter.
This. It's looking a lot like DG Ken Thomson and Jason Leitch will end up being the fall guys for Sturgeon and Freeman, unfortunately. Their reputations are now in the toilet, especially Leitch whose entire career depends on him being seen to be ethical and having taking an oath to be so.Otherwise Scotland is utterly doomed irrespective what flavour of gravy is running the train at any particular time. This mode of unaccountable and absent governance will otherwise continue to be holy grail of the professional grifter.
Actually not so unfortunately - Leitch was a total Sturgeon acolyte and his throwing to the dogs might teach others not to get their noses too far up the arses of narcissistic Nationalists.
Edited by Evercross on Saturday 20th January 12:47
matchmaker said:
It's a whitewash. I had an elderly aunt who died of Covid. She was in a nursing home because of dementia with Lewy Bodies - that's a type of dementia with the added complication of similar symptoms to Parkinsons, poor balance, etc. As I had Power of Attorney the nursing home kept me well imformed of how she was. When she had a fall - not uncommon - the home would phone me to let me know. They did their absolute best to keep her in the home so as not to risk her being exposed to Covid.
Unfortunately, she had a bad fall and the home phoned me to advise me that the doctor advised an MRI scan. She was admitted to the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow. Within a week she was dead of Covid.
Following a couple of letters I was phoned by the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service to give my account of events. Unfortunately, this did not toe the party line. I had no criticism whatsover of the nursing home, but a lot to say about Greater Glasgow and Clyde Health Board, none of it good.
Unsurprisingly, I have never heard from them again!
I feel your pain it was an awful situation the covid lockdown, I worked for the NHS at a Hospital duing those times and we knew patients were being transfered between hospitals without being checked, there has never been official numbers published of people who actually died from covid vs the published numbers of people who died testing positive of covid...numbers manipulated to suit certain peoples disgusting political agendas.Unfortunately, she had a bad fall and the home phoned me to advise me that the doctor advised an MRI scan. She was admitted to the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow. Within a week she was dead of Covid.
Following a couple of letters I was phoned by the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service to give my account of events. Unfortunately, this did not toe the party line. I had no criticism whatsover of the nursing home, but a lot to say about Greater Glasgow and Clyde Health Board, none of it good.
Unsurprisingly, I have never heard from them again!
And by the way it was never as bad as people were led to believe.
matchmaker said:
Klippie said:
At the covid enquiry they should hook them all up to an electric shock machine linked to a polygraph...this might zap some truths out them.
As case in point - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc-Fe3c45g4&ab...
It's a whitewash. I had an elderly aunt who died of Covid. She was in a nursing home because of dementia with Lewy Bodies - that's a type of dementia with the added complication of similar symptoms to Parkinsons, poor balance, etc. As I had Power of Attorney the nursing home kept me well imformed of how she was. When she had a fall - not uncommon - the home would phone me to let me know. They did their absolute best to keep her in the home so as not to risk her being exposed to Covid.As case in point - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc-Fe3c45g4&ab...
Unfortunately, she had a bad fall and the home phoned me to advise me that the doctor advised an MRI scan. She was admitted to the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow. Within a week she was dead of Covid.
Following a couple of letters I was phoned by the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service to give my account of events. Unfortunately, this did not toe the party line. I had no criticism whatsover of the nursing home, but a lot to say about Greater Glasgow and Clyde Health Board, none of it good.
Unsurprisingly, I have never heard from them again!
Let's just say All the bodies involved were expert at slamming the 'it wisnae me excuses' out, the only organisation who showed compassion were Police Scotland, ironically the laws protecting animals are stronger than the ones protecting our Elderly.
We found out that the 'Care' Commission were incompetent, didn't put up negative reports timeously, and didn't put up cases which were similar to previous failings.
We did eventually get a Fatal Accident Enquiry, where my faith in 'Justice' was forever dashed, as at the point one of the 'Care' home workers started to spill the beans under oath, the Sheriff stopped proceedings.
When they reconvened weeks later all the 'Care' home workers had the same sanitised story.
Scotland is a Banana Monarchy, I'd advise any young person to leave asap.
Better than out shower of, South of the border
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68042064
"Contrary to the impression given in some coverage, the Inquiry does have messages between me and those I most regularly communicated with through informal means.
"Although these had not been retained on my own device, I was able to obtain copies which I submitted to the Inquiry last year."
James6112 said:
Better than out shower of, South of the border
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68042064
"Contrary to the impression given in some coverage, the Inquiry does have messages between me and those I most regularly communicated with through informal means.
"Although these had not been retained on my own device, I was able to obtain copies which I submitted to the Inquiry last year."
So, she thought she was going to be found out about all the deletions, leaned on a few people and got them to send some of her messages back to her - which they shouldn't have been able to do if they'd followed her instruction. She probably thought she'd get away with that. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68042064
"Contrary to the impression given in some coverage, the Inquiry does have messages between me and those I most regularly communicated with through informal means.
"Although these had not been retained on my own device, I was able to obtain copies which I submitted to the Inquiry last year."
Fails to address the question of why she deleted her own messages. And why she was using "informal means" - no such thing should exist. I hope a decent KC pins her down on both questions.
Had to laugh at Humza's interview this morning. Could it be any more blatant that it's a desperate attempt not to take a potentially huge loss. 'Starmer is going to be PM anyway, so vote for SNP in Scotland as he won't need those votes. We'll happily consider a Labour / SNP coalition type arrangement where Labour has England and we have Scotland to get rid of the Tories'.
What a plonker. Labour might theoretically not need all the Scottish votes to form the next Government, but they'd be a bit daft not to push for as wide a vote as possible, including Scotland to assure it. Labour don't need to do SNP any favours but SNP desperately needs to find a way to cling to the power thats so clearly going to slip away from them.
What a plonker. Labour might theoretically not need all the Scottish votes to form the next Government, but they'd be a bit daft not to push for as wide a vote as possible, including Scotland to assure it. Labour don't need to do SNP any favours but SNP desperately needs to find a way to cling to the power thats so clearly going to slip away from them.
biggles330d said:
Had to laugh at Humza's interview this morning. Could it be any more blatant that it's a desperate attempt not to take a potentially huge loss. 'Starmer is going to be PM anyway, so vote for SNP in Scotland as he won't need those votes. We'll happily consider a Labour / SNP coalition type arrangement where Labour has England and we have Scotland to get rid of the Tories'.
What a plonker. Labour might theoretically not need all the Scottish votes to form the next Government, but they'd be a bit daft not to push for as wide a vote as possible, including Scotland to assure it. Labour don't need to do SNP any favours but SNP desperately needs to find a way to cling to the power thats so clearly going to slip away from them.
And he quotes the old BS about most taxpayers paying less in Scotland. Technically correct because of the 19% rate band. It amounts to about £20 a year. Our tax system had a bit more complication added to it so this boast could be made without it costing too much.What a plonker. Labour might theoretically not need all the Scottish votes to form the next Government, but they'd be a bit daft not to push for as wide a vote as possible, including Scotland to assure it. Labour don't need to do SNP any favours but SNP desperately needs to find a way to cling to the power thats so clearly going to slip away from them.
Traitor...that's what the die hard SNP lunatics will be calling him, sooking up to Labour like some wee pet dug looking for a morsel of hope to keep his snout in the trough, Labour will never give him indyref2 so what the hell was he thinking with this statment...disgusting cretin of a man, he has no shame.
His arse is in a sling now with rest of the SNP..!!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-po...
His arse is in a sling now with rest of the SNP..!!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-po...
irc said:
And he quotes the old BS about most taxpayers paying less in Scotland. Technically correct because of the 19% rate band. It amounts to about £20 a year. Our tax system had a bit more complication added to it so this boast could be made without it costing too much.
Surprisingly, this is one thing where the last budget appears to have actually improved things a little and increased the number of individuals paying less as they’ve increased the thresholds while the UK ones have been frozen. Obviously Hunt can (and probably will) do something that will nullify that difference, but for now it looks like you’re slightly better off in Scotland than you were if you’re at the bottom of the tax tree.https://www.gov.scot/publications/scottish-budget-...
Scottish Government document said:
For 2024‑25, the Starter and Basic rate bands will be increased by inflation to £14,876 and £26,561 respectively. The Starter, Basic, Intermediate and Higher rates will remain unchanged.
biggles330d said:
Had to laugh at Humza's interview this morning. Could it be any more blatant that it's a desperate attempt not to take a potentially huge loss. 'Starmer is going to be PM anyway, so vote for SNP in Scotland as he won't need those votes. We'll happily consider a Labour / SNP coalition type arrangement where Labour has England and we have Scotland to get rid of the Tories'.
So his message was 'vote for us losers'. Way to go Dumza.A good explanation of the Scottish income tax changes here
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2023/12/sco...
As always a bit of spin though. They haven't raised the point you start paying income tax by inflation. So more low earners will start paying income tax.
The amount anyone saves is small. For example someone earning
£14876 saves 1% of the difference between £14732 and £14876. I make that £1:40 a year.
Someone earning £26651 will save an additional 1% if the difference between £26651 and £25688. Or £1:37 a year. Total £2:77.
I suppose they could buy a pint at Wetherspoons to celebrate!
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2023/12/sco...
As always a bit of spin though. They haven't raised the point you start paying income tax by inflation. So more low earners will start paying income tax.
The amount anyone saves is small. For example someone earning
£14876 saves 1% of the difference between £14732 and £14876. I make that £1:40 a year.
Someone earning £26651 will save an additional 1% if the difference between £26651 and £25688. Or £1:37 a year. Total £2:77.
I suppose they could buy a pint at Wetherspoons to celebrate!
Edited by irc on Sunday 21st January 12:29
Edited by irc on Sunday 21st January 18:47
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