Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12
Discussion
hidetheelephants said:
WTF is this? Flat-roofed pubs get a better fit out than that.
Looks a bit like a scheme bowling club. I have had a few great nights out in bowling clubs. Cheap drink. Relaxed. But not decor you expect on a ship costing hundreds of millions. Good enough for a Norwegian warship I suppose.
General Price said:
Good to see they are still getting value from the design implemented on the last ship they built. I'm half expecting to see a faded picture of Princess Anne lurking somewhere. 
Honestly, to think how much design effort and quality that went into the refreshed Caledonian Sleeper and the station lounges where the brief was to showcase the best of Scotland because it was seen as part of the 'sell' of Scottish tourism. Designed in Scotland, built in Spain. Here we have seemingly not designed at all and built in Scotland... Says it all really.
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tbox and Rusty; designed in Portugal and built in Scotland. 
biggles330d said:
Good to see they are still getting value from the design implemented on the last ship they built. I'm half expecting to see a faded picture of Princess Anne lurking somewhere.
Honestly, to think how much design effort and quality that went into the refreshed Caledonian Sleeper and the station lounges where the brief was to showcase the best of Scotland because it was seen as part of the 'sell' of Scottish tourism. Designed in Scotland, built in Spain. Here we have seemingly not designed at all and built in Scotland... Says it all really.
As opposed to Glens sHonestly, to think how much design effort and quality that went into the refreshed Caledonian Sleeper and the station lounges where the brief was to showcase the best of Scotland because it was seen as part of the 'sell' of Scottish tourism. Designed in Scotland, built in Spain. Here we have seemingly not designed at all and built in Scotland... Says it all really.
tbox and Rusty; designed in Portugal and built in Scotland. The continued failure in education in Scotland.
"The latest results showed how the education of children in the devolved nations of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, which have all used their devolved powers to enact radical experiment with education policies, has slipped back compared to that of their peers in England"
"It is hard to say definitively why there has been a deterioration in the educational achievement of any one country,” says Sibieta. “But it is very plausible that the introduction of skills-base curricula is at least partly to blame and would match what has also happened in New Zealand and Finland, which have also adopted a similar approach.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/02/scotti...
And all while Scotland spends more per pupil than anywhere else in the UK.
"The latest results showed how the education of children in the devolved nations of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, which have all used their devolved powers to enact radical experiment with education policies, has slipped back compared to that of their peers in England"
"It is hard to say definitively why there has been a deterioration in the educational achievement of any one country,” says Sibieta. “But it is very plausible that the introduction of skills-base curricula is at least partly to blame and would match what has also happened in New Zealand and Finland, which have also adopted a similar approach.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/02/scotti...
And all while Scotland spends more per pupil than anywhere else in the UK.
irc said:
The continued failure in education in Scotland.
"The latest results showed how the education of children in the devolved nations of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, which have all used their devolved powers to enact radical experiment with education policies, has slipped back compared to that of their peers in England"
"It is hard to say definitively why there has been a deterioration in the educational achievement of any one country,” says Sibieta. “But it is very plausible that the introduction of skills-base curricula is at least partly to blame and would match what has also happened in New Zealand and Finland, which have also adopted a similar approach.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/02/scotti...
And all while Scotland spends more per pupil than anywhere else in the UK.
its all the Tories fault ........................... oh no wait..............Westministers fault............... "The latest results showed how the education of children in the devolved nations of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, which have all used their devolved powers to enact radical experiment with education policies, has slipped back compared to that of their peers in England"
"It is hard to say definitively why there has been a deterioration in the educational achievement of any one country,” says Sibieta. “But it is very plausible that the introduction of skills-base curricula is at least partly to blame and would match what has also happened in New Zealand and Finland, which have also adopted a similar approach.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/02/scotti...
And all while Scotland spends more per pupil than anywhere else in the UK.
rider73 said:
irc said:
The continued failure in education in Scotland.
"The latest results showed how the education of children in the devolved nations of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, which have all used their devolved powers to enact radical experiment with education policies, has slipped back compared to that of their peers in England"
"It is hard to say definitively why there has been a deterioration in the educational achievement of any one country,” says Sibieta. “But it is very plausible that the introduction of skills-base curricula is at least partly to blame and would match what has also happened in New Zealand and Finland, which have also adopted a similar approach.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/02/scotti...
And all while Scotland spends more per pupil than anywhere else in the UK.
its all the Tories fault ........................... oh no wait..............Westministers fault............... "The latest results showed how the education of children in the devolved nations of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, which have all used their devolved powers to enact radical experiment with education policies, has slipped back compared to that of their peers in England"
"It is hard to say definitively why there has been a deterioration in the educational achievement of any one country,” says Sibieta. “But it is very plausible that the introduction of skills-base curricula is at least partly to blame and would match what has also happened in New Zealand and Finland, which have also adopted a similar approach.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/02/scotti...
And all while Scotland spends more per pupil than anywhere else in the UK.
The boss of Fergusons explains wh the Glen Sanxox anchor was found to be faulty on the sea trial. It would go down but they were not sure it would come up again.
At 2:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc0QlZLRdxw
Also points out the LNG systems are complex and nobody knows how to install them. THey add complexity
A wise choice for the ships then.
At 2:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc0QlZLRdxw
Also points out the LNG systems are complex and nobody knows how to install them. THey add complexity
A wise choice for the ships then.
irc said:
The boss of Fergusons explains wh the Glen Sanxox anchor was found to be faulty on the sea trial. It would go down but they were not sure it would come up again.
At 2:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc0QlZLRdxw
Also points out the LNG systems are complex and nobody knows how to install them. THey add complexity
A wise choice for the ships then.
He's talking sAt 2:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc0QlZLRdxw
Also points out the LNG systems are complex and nobody knows how to install them. THey add complexity
A wise choice for the ships then.
te, just like his delivery date estimates - they are slightly more complex, but it's a good thing that the LNGPac system which is on the Sannox and hundreds of other vessels arrives as a pre-packaged system - the shipyard only has to supply piping from bunker station to the fuel tank, and from gas valve units to the engines, and appropriate ventilation and gas detection systems. There's plenty of expertise worldwide on LNG systems; just because no UK yard had built a dual-fuel ship doesn't mean the knowledge isn't out there - Ferguson's just attempted to wing the whole project and not seek out appropriate assistance.
As for him saying the Glen Rosa is still on track for September 2025?
It won't be, and he's already said off-the-record that the yard is (somehow) running out of money for it........IF they get the small ferries contract, they'll struggle to finish the Rosa off and make headway on the new ships with the resources they haveTaffer said:
He's talking ste, just like his delivery date estimates - they are slightly more complex, but it's a good thing that the LNGPac system which is on the Sannox and hundreds of other vessels arrives as a pre-packaged system - the shipyard only has to supply piping from bunker station to the fuel tank, and from gas valve units to the engines, and appropriate ventilation and gas detection systems.
There's plenty of expertise worldwide on LNG systems; just because no UK yard had built a dual-fuel ship doesn't mean the knowledge isn't out there - Ferguson's just attempted to wing the whole project and not seek out appropriate assistance.
As for him saying the Glen Rosa is still on track for September 2025? It won't be, and he's already said off-the-record that the yard is (somehow) running out of money for it........IF they get the small ferries contract, they'll struggle to finish the Rosa off and make headway on the new ships with the resources they have
I think we all know that the resources they have are not the resources that they will have, despite any pronouncements that Swinney and Robison may make. Those votes in Inverclyde don’t buy themselves.te, just like his delivery date estimates - they are slightly more complex, but it's a good thing that the LNGPac system which is on the Sannox and hundreds of other vessels arrives as a pre-packaged system - the shipyard only has to supply piping from bunker station to the fuel tank, and from gas valve units to the engines, and appropriate ventilation and gas detection systems. There's plenty of expertise worldwide on LNG systems; just because no UK yard had built a dual-fuel ship doesn't mean the knowledge isn't out there - Ferguson's just attempted to wing the whole project and not seek out appropriate assistance.
As for him saying the Glen Rosa is still on track for September 2025?
It won't be, and he's already said off-the-record that the yard is (somehow) running out of money for it........IF they get the small ferries contract, they'll struggle to finish the Rosa off and make headway on the new ships with the resources they haveTaffer said:
As for him saying the Glen Rosa is still on track for September 2025? It won't be, and he's already said off-the-record that the yard is (somehow) running out of money for it........IF they get the small ferries contract, they'll struggle to finish the Rosa off and make headway on the new ships with the resources they have
It's a boat-building Ponzi scheme. They'll use the money for the small boats to finish the big boat. Then they'll use the money from ... to finish the small boats. It won't be, and he's already said off-the-record that the yard is (somehow) running out of money for it........IF they get the small ferries contract, they'll struggle to finish the Rosa off and make headway on the new ships with the resources they haveI mean, it works in construction, so...?
Taffer said:
You should see the bits downstairs...........
That photo from one of the newspapers of the wire brush embedded in the paint was, er, spectacular.Given the mess this heap is apparently in, are Calmac going to be able to find yards that are willing to bid for overhaul work?
alangla said:
Taffer said:
You should see the bits downstairs...........
That photo from one of the newspapers of the wire brush embedded in the paint was, er, spectacular.Given the mess this heap is apparently in, are Calmac going to be able to find yards that are willing to bid for overhaul work?
hidetheelephants said:
alangla said:
Taffer said:
You should see the bits downstairs...........
That photo from one of the newspapers of the wire brush embedded in the paint was, er, spectacular.Given the mess this heap is apparently in, are Calmac going to be able to find yards that are willing to bid for overhaul work?
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