Russia Invades Ukraine. Volume 5
Discussion
Sway said:
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I do think it's likely this is a new-ish developed warhead though, as frankly everyone else dismissed conventional MIRVs decades ago as being essentially useless or a sign of failure in other areas.
I don't even think those warheads even carried a charge.I do think it's likely this is a new-ish developed warhead though, as frankly everyone else dismissed conventional MIRVs decades ago as being essentially useless or a sign of failure in other areas.
Literally test warheads I.e lumps of concrete.
trickywoo said:
borcy said:
Makes sense as NK is apparently awash with weapon systems to rival ATACMS and Storm Shadow.Bathroom_Security said:
I see Joe Bloggs on YT is going all in with accusations that Russia is finally starting to fail as a state. Food crisis. Financial crisis.
He's brilliant at clear explanations of economics and well worth a watch, but he's been predicting a collapse of the Russian economy for years.I don't know what a collapse would really look like but I can't see it stopping this war. They have food and energy and a massive security service to keep the people under.
cliffords said:
I think you got asked before, how do you know this ?
Because you told me you saw it on Reuters, or something….It makes a lot of sense now I think about it. An isolationist state with nothing better to do will have technology in advance of the US and the rest of Western Europe. We might as well all give in now and prepare for our demise.
borcy said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nJ5ZvRV4O0
Steve Rosenberg's daily review of the papers in Russia. This one covers the papers reactions to the fall in the Ruble.
I'll never complain about interest rates again (I hope!) If it stays like this for a couple of years, how would it compare to the post USSR collapse ? They surely can't be that bad yet?Steve Rosenberg's daily review of the papers in Russia. This one covers the papers reactions to the fall in the Ruble.
On Sky News...
"Zelenskyy suggests he's prepared to end 'hot phase' of Ukraine war in return for NATO membership, even if Russia doesn't immediately return seized land"
https://news.sky.com/story/zelenskyy-suggests-hes-...
"Zelenskyy suggests he's prepared to end 'hot phase' of Ukraine war in return for NATO membership, even if Russia doesn't immediately return seized land"
https://news.sky.com/story/zelenskyy-suggests-hes-...
glazbagun said:
I'll never complain about interest rates again (I hope!) If it stays like this for a couple of years, how would it compare to the post USSR collapse ? They surely can't be that bad yet?
It’s not an economy like we are used to though. If that happened here there would be a revolution, complete change of life compared to what we are used to. The way their economy works means it’s much less significant.Still not good but nothing like it would be here.
Sway said:
Agreed - except it's 'every' long range ballistic missile that'll be hypersonic by definition.
There's no sign of any manoeuvring, and tbh whilst it's the current buzzword, it's exceedingly unlikely that one can be developed with current technology - physics being physics.
I do think it's likely this is a new-ish developed warhead though, as frankly everyone else dismissed conventional MIRVs decades ago as being essentially useless or a sign of failure in other areas.
The manoeuvring, if any, would be way higher up in the atmosphere than the clip of them coming in through the cloud cover could show. I don't understand what you think the physics limitation which prevents manoeuvring is? There's no sign of any manoeuvring, and tbh whilst it's the current buzzword, it's exceedingly unlikely that one can be developed with current technology - physics being physics.
I do think it's likely this is a new-ish developed warhead though, as frankly everyone else dismissed conventional MIRVs decades ago as being essentially useless or a sign of failure in other areas.
airbusA346 said:
On Sky News...
"Zelenskyy suggests he's prepared to end 'hot phase' of Ukraine war in return for NATO membership, even if Russia doesn't immediately return seized land"
https://news.sky.com/story/zelenskyy-suggests-hes-...
I'm sure he would but Putin ain't gonna buy that. The last thing he wants is a functioning prosperous Ukraine and with that kind of security there would be a ton of inward investment to Ukraine."Zelenskyy suggests he's prepared to end 'hot phase' of Ukraine war in return for NATO membership, even if Russia doesn't immediately return seized land"
https://news.sky.com/story/zelenskyy-suggests-hes-...
hairykrishna said:
The manoeuvring, if any, would be way higher up in the atmosphere than the clip of them coming in through the cloud cover could show. I don't understand what you think the physics limitation which prevents manoeuvring is?
Unless there's more fuel onboard than warhead they aren't manoeuvring worth a damn, the physics don't allow it.BikeBikeBIke said:
Bathroom_Security said:
I see Joe Bloggs on YT is going all in with accusations that Russia is finally starting to fail as a state. Food crisis. Financial crisis.
He's brilliant at clear explanations of economics and well worth a watch, but he's been predicting a collapse of the Russian economy for years.I don't know what a collapse would really look like but I can't see it stopping this war. They have food and energy and a massive security service to keep the people under.
hairykrishna said:
Sway said:
Agreed - except it's 'every' long range ballistic missile that'll be hypersonic by definition.
There's no sign of any manoeuvring, and tbh whilst it's the current buzzword, it's exceedingly unlikely that one can be developed with current technology - physics being physics.
I do think it's likely this is a new-ish developed warhead though, as frankly everyone else dismissed conventional MIRVs decades ago as being essentially useless or a sign of failure in other areas.
The manoeuvring, if any, would be way higher up in the atmosphere than the clip of them coming in through the cloud cover could show. I don't understand what you think the physics limitation which prevents manoeuvring is? There's no sign of any manoeuvring, and tbh whilst it's the current buzzword, it's exceedingly unlikely that one can be developed with current technology - physics being physics.
I do think it's likely this is a new-ish developed warhead though, as frankly everyone else dismissed conventional MIRVs decades ago as being essentially useless or a sign of failure in other areas.
The warheads, the bit you really want to be able to shift, dodge and confuse, are too small and moving too fast in a thick atmosphere surrounded by plasma for them to have any meaningful delta v capability with our current means of propulsion.
borcy said:
I read somewhere a week or two ago that SK can not or will not supply arms to Ukraine directly and were looking at ways of supplying Ukraine via a third party. I think this has happened previously maybe with 155 ammuntion. SK may indeed refuse sale of weapons to Ukraine. They might not refuse to supply via a third party.
Edit found this on Wiki re 155 shells
Edited by Cheib on Friday 29th November 23:15
Russia being stretched thin doesn't help it's middle east allies. Anti-Assad forces on the march, entering Aleppo for the 1st time in 8 years.
Russia intervened in Syria 9 years ago, bombing to help Assad reclaim Aleppo and elsewhere, and help Assad militarily, but with Russia stretched thin and allocating all resources to Ukraine?
https://apnews.com/article/syria-attack-clashes-al...
Russia intervened in Syria 9 years ago, bombing to help Assad reclaim Aleppo and elsewhere, and help Assad militarily, but with Russia stretched thin and allocating all resources to Ukraine?
https://apnews.com/article/syria-attack-clashes-al...
Byker28i said:
Russia being stretched thin doesn't help it's middle east allies. Anti-Assad forces on the march, entering Aleppo for the 1st time in 8 years.
Russia intervened in Syria 9 years ago, bombing to help Assad reclaim Aleppo and elsewhere, and help Assad militarily, but with Russia stretched thin and allocating all resources to Ukraine?
https://apnews.com/article/syria-attack-clashes-al...
Yes, it’s going largely unnoticed in the media, given the magnitude of both the Ukraine and the present UK government’s clusterfRussia intervened in Syria 9 years ago, bombing to help Assad reclaim Aleppo and elsewhere, and help Assad militarily, but with Russia stretched thin and allocating all resources to Ukraine?
https://apnews.com/article/syria-attack-clashes-al...
kery, but the situation in Syria seems more dynamic. There are allegations the rebels are being funnelled from Turkey, which in and of itself if probably unsurprising.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff