Holly Wiloughby kidnap plot court case

[Mr Penguin]

g4ry13 said:

Wasn't her career basically dead after she threw Schofield under the bus and tried to distance herself? She was struggling to keep her job at This Morning and about to be axed then this business happened. The career was dead aside from perhaps a revival on "i'm a celebrity get me out of here"

It happened at the same time. She quit This Morning six days after he was arrested.

[g4ry13]

Mr Penguin said:

g4ry13 said:

Wasn't her career basically dead after she threw Schofield under the bus and tried to distance herself? She was struggling to keep her job at This Morning and about to be axed then this business happened. The career was dead aside from perhaps a revival on "i'm a celebrity get me out of here"

It happened at the same time. She quit This Morning six days after he was arrested.

Are you sure about that? I believe the Schofield debacle was in May. Holly took some time off and returned in early June.

The arrest took place 4 months later in October.

[PRO5T]

Only on pistonheads can an attempted rapist and murderer with a previous history of attempted abduction be described as having too lenient a sentence.

And for good measure have his victim accused of using her subsequent withdrawal from the public eye to cover up some career failing.

Well done PH.

[bitchstewie]

g4ry13 said:

Wasn't her career basically dead after she threw Schofield under the bus and tried to distance herself? She was struggling to keep her job at This Morning and about to be axed then this business happened. The career was dead aside from perhaps a revival on "i'm a celebrity get me out of here"

Can't say I've followed the timeline closely but take this fker out the loop and I'm pretty sure that Willoughby would be on TV if she wanted to be rather than feeling threatened enough to do what she's done.

[Southerner]

Gareth79 said:

He got 12 months suspended for 2 years for the first offence (imprisoning and attacking two girls at Woolworths), and 32 months for the second offence, the note passed on the train, of which he served 16 months.

The sentence for that first effort was an absolute disgrace. This does all raise an interesting question of what would the outcome have been had he planned to do all of this to a non-celebrity; I sincerely hope Willoughby’s profile doesn’t mean he gets a harsher sentence that if it were just a ‘normal’ victim that he’d plotted to attack. We’ll never know, of course.

[Vasco]

g4ry13 said:

Wasn't her career basically dead after she threw Schofield under the bus and tried to distance herself? She was struggling to keep her job at This Morning and about to be axed then this business happened. The career was dead aside from perhaps a revival on "i'm a celebrity get me out of here"

No, utter twaddle.
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[g4ry13]

Vasco said:

g4ry13 said:

Wasn't her career basically dead after she threw Schofield under the bus and tried to distance herself? She was struggling to keep her job at This Morning and about to be axed then this business happened. The career was dead aside from perhaps a revival on "i'm a celebrity get me out of here"

No, utter twaddle.
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Care to elaborate a bit further?

I have little doubt that Holly will try and revive her career by selling her story and having an itv / channel 4 show.

[Biker's Nemesis]

PRO5T said:

Only on pistonheads can an attempted rapist and murderer with a previous history of attempted abduction be described as having too lenient a sentence.

And for good measure have his victim accused of using her subsequent withdrawal from the public eye to cover up some career failing.

Well done PH.

Pretty much what I was thinking.

[LivLL]

PRO5T said:

Only on pistonheads can an attempted rapist and murderer with a previous history of attempted abduction be described as having too lenient a sentence.

And for good measure have his victim accused of using her subsequent withdrawal from the public eye to cover up some career failing.

Well done PH.

Too lenient, yes. It could have been much longer in my opinion don't know why you'd want it to be shorter.

[bitchstewie]

Honestly this ^^ is pretty disgusting.

[greygoose]

PRO5T said:

Only on pistonheads can an attempted rapist and murderer with a previous history of attempted abduction be described as having too lenient a sentence.

And for good measure have his victim accused of using her subsequent withdrawal from the public eye to cover up some career failing.

Well done PH.

I think you mean people on here saying he had too long a sentence.

I agree with you, some shameful comments on here.

[MrBogSmith]

It strikes me as a strong sentence (relative to things like death by dangerous driving / many manslaughters) for something that never left the planning / preparation stages (as opposed to an attempt / carrying out the act).

Although they are unusual and serious offences, and he does have previously convictions so clearly is a risk.

[bitchstewie]

The suggestion that she's withdrawn from TV as part of some plan to advance her career.

[ChocolateFrog]

PRO5T said:

Only on pistonheads can an attempted rapist and murderer with a previous history of attempted abduction be described as having too lenient a sentence.

And for good measure have his victim accused of using her subsequent withdrawal from the public eye to cover up some career failing.

Well done PH.

I assume you mean the opposite of lenient.

See also the Letby thread for all those desperate to see her walk free.

[NDA]

g4ry13 said:

I have little doubt that Holly will try and revive her career by selling her story and having an itv / channel 4 show.

And you'd be wrong.

[g4ry13]

bhstewie said:

The suggestion that she's withdrawn from TV as part of some plan to advance her career.

That wasn't the suggestion.

I said after the Schofield debacle the spotlight fell on Holly and there was growing pressure for her and Schofield to leave This Morning. She was already on the way out of the job and then 3 or so months later this story happened and she permanently bowed out.

[bitchstewie]

I think "try and revive her career by selling her story" is close enough.

I can't imagine what it must be like to be in the public eye (I'm not sure it's much better if you're just a normal person either) to wake up one day and find out a group of people are speaking about you and one of them has the kind of fked up plans this guy did.

I'm sure it isn't your intention but yours and a couple of other comments do some across as if she will somehow use this to advance her career when so far it seems to have had the exact opposite effect.

[otolith]

MrBogSmith said:

It strikes me as a strong sentence (relative to things like death by dangerous driving / many manslaughters) for something that never left the planning / preparation stages (as opposed to an attempt / carrying out the act).

Although they are unusual and serious offences, and he does have previously convictions so clearly is a risk.

It isn’t out of line with sentences for people convicted of plotting murder for political reasons though.

[Gareth79]

g4ry13 said:

bhstewie said:

The suggestion that she's withdrawn from TV as part of some plan to advance her career.

That wasn't the suggestion.

I said after the Schofield debacle the spotlight fell on Holly and there was growing pressure for her and Schofield to leave This Morning. She was already on the way out of the job and then 3 or so months later this story happened and she permanently bowed out.

I think it was likely that a new presenting couple would come in, rather than them finding a male co-presenter.

I imagine she already had plenty of stalkerish/creepy fans who had been flagged as concerning/dangerous, and probably feared one of them turning up at the house, or figuring out where she would be in public. To then have something even more twisted than she might have feared... I'm sure Jill Dando's death weighs on female presenters' minds...

[g4ry13]

bhstewie said:

I think "try and revive her career by selling her story" is close enough.

I can't imagine what it must be like to be in the public eye (I'm not sure it's much better if you're just a normal person either) to wake up one day and find out a group of people are speaking about you and one of them has the kind of fked up plans this guy did.

I'm sure it isn't your intention but yours and a couple of other comments do some across as if she will somehow use this to advance her career when so far it seems to have had the exact opposite effect.

As a celebrity it does unfortunately come with the territory that you attract some obsessive fans / stalkers. Holly is certainly not the first and won't be the last. A person could sketch a few notes on a piece of paper and does that become a plot which you can get a long stretch for? It's curious how far down the line one has to go in making a plot in order to end up with a sentence similar to actually murdering someone.

Holly and Schofield got a lot of flak for Queuegate which damaged their popularity ratings. Then the Schofield dirty laundry came out. The public were aware that Holly would have known and covered for him. The popularity ratings were sinking and she took time away from This Morning and came back to throw him under the bus. ITV were under pressure to axe her and then the story broke and she was taken into protective custody.

I have little doubt that Holly will capitalise on this incident as the public have a short memory of the past and will obviously empathise with her story. It's very unpleasant business of course, but I can assure you this opportunity will not go to waste.