Riots 2024

[bitchstewie]

A "good cause".

Christ the state of him.

Don't worry though I'm sure they all checked the hotel was empty before they smashed it up and tried to set fire to it.

[CraigyMc]

bhstewie said:

A "good cause".

Christ the state of him.

Don't worry though I'm sure they all checked the hotel was empty before they smashed it up and tried to set fire to it.

It does look like a normal holiday inn express, tbf.

[CraigyMc]

hairykrishna said:

Anyone who reads this thread and comes away with the impression that Stewie is the one supporting rioters needs reading comprehension lessons. Or mental health support.

The intersection of people who don't do detail and those who don't understand sarcasm is not a small one.

Potatoes gonna potate.

[bitchstewie]

Yeah before I get some angry comments I should just confirm that was dry humour and I know they didn't check the hotel was full before smashing it up or setting fire to it.

Very surreal having to point that out but that's where seem to find ourselves.

[Digga]

CraigyMc said:

bhstewie said:

A "good cause".

Christ the state of him.

Don't worry though I'm sure they all checked the hotel was empty before they smashed it up and tried to set fire to it.

It does look like a normal holiday inn express, tbf.

After a decent hen do, maybe.

9 years for attempted arson of a whole hotel with occupants seems pretty much what anyone should expect, so I can’t see many calls of “two tier” in this instance.

[98elise]

Digga said:

After a decent hen do, maybe.

9 years for attempted arson of a whole hotel with occupants seems pretty much what anyone should expect, so I can’t see many calls of “two tier” in this instance.

Agreed. It sounds about right before you even consider the racial and civil unrest factors.

[bitchstewie]

Another violent thug jailed in what looks like a racist attack.

Man who stamped on victim's head at riot jailed

Sentencing remarks said the victim was "probably attacked because he was white".

[CraigyMc]

bhstewie said:

Another violent thug jailed in what looks like a racist attack.

Man who stamped on victim's head at riot jailed

Sentencing remarks said the victim was "probably attacked because he was white".

Hopefully dispels some of the two-tier justice concerns.

[zarjaz1991]

Digga said:

After a decent hen do, maybe.

9 years for attempted arson of a whole hotel with occupants seems pretty much what anyone should expect, so I can’t see many calls of “two tier” in this instance.

Yes. If anything this sentence was too light.

[BikeBikeBIke]

CraigyMc said:

bhstewie said:

Another violent thug jailed in what looks like a racist attack.

Man who stamped on victim's head at riot jailed

Sentencing remarks said the victim was "probably attacked because he was white".

Hopefully dispels some of the two-tier justice concerns.

I don't buy the logic of two tier justice at all (crimes during riots carry eye watering sentences for the obvious reasons) but surely these light sentences for very serious crimes like arson with intent, often committed by people with a lot of previous, don't do anything to dispel the two teir justice case at all. Quite the opposite.

If you're someone who works, pays tax you get an eye watering sentence for a first offence, if you're a grade A scrote committing a crime with a potential life sentence you get a slap on the wrist. Out in about four years. (Or thats how it looks.) Someone gave an example above of the same offence carrying 38 years, and that wasn't during a riot.

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Friday 13th December 17:23

[BikeBikeBIke]

zarjaz1991 said:

Yes. If anything this sentence was too light.

Insanely light.

[BunkMoreland]

CraigyMc said:

bhstewie said:

Another violent thug jailed in what looks like a racist attack.

Man who stamped on victim's head at riot jailed

Sentencing remarks said the victim was "probably attacked because he was white".

Hopefully dispels some of the two-tier justice concerns.

Not really. Case above

2y10m for pretty much borderline attempted murder! And clearly as above a racial motivation


2y6m for being a total moron online with a racial motivation
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/17/tory-c...

Thus we can deduce the 4 months extra is for the attempted murder part fo the assault. Seems light to me.


Different case. But involving stamping on a victims head. 5y3m

https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2024-12-11/ma...



Different case involving the death of another motorist 2y4m

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgmv31m90l0o



Differnet case. Attempted murder 12y

https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/...

(all just quickly from Google)



Just like in football when the refs make decisions. Its the inconsistency that grates. And that's what people will seize on to say there's 2tiers.

How about FreegearKier does something with the sentencing guidelines. Make them stronger. Make them tougher.

To me. Anything involving someone's death should be 10y minimum. Whether in a car or by fight. Attempted murder minimum 8y.

Double those 2 where there's a racial element or if there was a robbery motivation etc

Of course only Blair was tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime....

[bitchstewie]

Watchdog says police unprepared for scale of riots

[bitchstewie]

And a couple more.

Man jailed over video threatening to ‘blow away’ English Defence League

'Party animal' rioter who was hit in the head and groin by flying bricks as he taunted police during Southport unrest is jailed

Worth watching the second one just for the brick to the nuts.

[Greendubber]

Happy Christmas!

[5s Alive]

bhstewie said:

And a couple more.

Man jailed over video threatening to ‘blow away’ English Defence League

'Party animal' rioter who was hit in the head and groin by flying bricks as he taunted police during Southport unrest is jailed

Worth watching the second one just for the brick to the nuts.

10 pints and a litre of rum my arse. No additional punishment for lying about his name? It's not Brian, it's Frank, isn't it?

[nickfrog]

bhstewie said:

And a couple more.

Man jailed over video threatening to ‘blow away’ English Defence League

'Party animal' rioter who was hit in the head and groin by flying bricks as he taunted police during Southport unrest is jailed

Worth watching the second one just for the brick to the nuts.

Brilliant. If you're gonna do something stupid, at least do it properly. It's hard to not assume low IQ within that particular demographic of "British" people. In addition to low EQ. The judiciary is getting this right.

[bitchstewie]

nickfrog said:

Brilliant. If you're gonna do something stupid, at least do it properly. It's hard to not assume low IQ within that particular demographic of "British" people. In addition to low EQ. The judiciary is getting this right.

The second bloke also racially abused a patient whilst he was in hospital.

These people are beneath contempt.

[Digga]

bhstewie said:

nickfrog said:

Brilliant. If you're gonna do something stupid, at least do it properly. It's hard to not assume low IQ within that particular demographic of "British" people. In addition to low EQ. The judiciary is getting this right.

The second bloke also racially abused a patient whilst he was in hospital.

These people are beneath contempt.

Stupid is as stupid does.

[captain_cynic]

bhstewie said:

nickfrog said:

Brilliant. If you're gonna do something stupid, at least do it properly. It's hard to not assume low IQ within that particular demographic of "British" people. In addition to low EQ. The judiciary is getting this right.

The second bloke also racially abused a patient whilst he was in hospital.

These people are beneath contempt.

But it's just a bit of hurty racism.