Govt Petition site Call an Election

Govt Petition site Call an Election

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valiant

12,300 posts

175 months

Friday 29th November 2024
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turbobloke said:
For the petition it's voted so far...it runs to end May 2025.
By the end of May, about a dozen a day will be signing up at this rate.


Bill

55,756 posts

270 months

Friday 29th November 2024
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turbobloke said:
For the petition it's voted so far...it runs to end May 2025.
Well I can't wait to see what the final tally is. Obviously the debate, such as it is, will be done by then. And nothing will have changed.

turbobloke

111,892 posts

275 months

Friday 29th November 2024
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Bill said:
turbobloke said:
For the petition it's voted so far...it runs to end May 2025.
Well I can't wait to see what the final tally is. Obviously the debate, such as it is, will be done by then. And nothing will have changed.
There will have been a debate on how Labour has performed so appallingly so quickly that several million people signed a petition after only a few months, that'll be a refreshing change.

don'tbesilly

15,361 posts

178 months

Friday 29th November 2024
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valiant said:
About 1500 per hour now. A thousand less than yesterday which was half the day before which was well down on its peak.

It’s not running out of road, it’s running out of steam.
For someone who has little to zero interest in the petition and someone who has stated it will come to nothing (correct & has always been the case), your updates on the progress of the number/s signing is very much appreciated, checking on both an hourly and daily basis is also quite impressive.

I’ll look forward to the next update, same time tomorrow?

valiant

12,300 posts

175 months

Friday 29th November 2024
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don'tbesilly said:
For someone who has little to zero interest in the petition and someone who has stated it will come to nothing (correct & has always been the case), your updates on the progress of the number/s signing is very much appreciated, checking on both an hourly and daily basis is also quite impressive.

I’ll look forward to the next update, same time tomorrow?
Yep. No problem.

It’s important to realise the level of fkwittery out there. 6m fkwits for anti-brexit and now 3m fkwits for another GE. The level of fkwittery seems to be falling and once again I have hope for this country.

It’s important to keep an eye on these things. For the good of the country you understand.

bad company

20,499 posts

281 months

Friday 29th November 2024
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valiant said:
Yep. No problem.

It’s important to realise the level of fkwittery out there. 6m fkwits for anti-brexit and now 3m fkwits for another GE. The level of fkwittery seems to be falling and once again I have hope for this country.

It’s important to keep an eye on these things. For the good of the country you understand.
What an odd way of looking at it. In both cases the people or ‘f******s’ as you call them wanted to express their displeasure at the decisions.

No Brexit won’t be reversed and there won’t be an early GE due to the petition but in both cases the issues were highlighted and were or will be discussed in Parliament.

Edited by bad company on Friday 29th November 20:43

coldel

9,020 posts

161 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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768 said:
Yeah. It's all going swimmingly. No change.

Certainly off the back of a tough budget it will be bad, not really new news that. Still, it could be worse as a motoring journalist used to say…


Boringvolvodriver

10,381 posts

58 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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bad company said:
What an odd way of looking at it. In both cases the people or ‘f******s’ as you call them wanted to express their displeasure at the decisions.

No Brexit won’t be reversed and there won’t be an early GE due to the petition but in both cases the issues were highlighted and were or will be discussed in Parliament.

Edited by bad company on Friday 29th November 20:43
Just seen the results of a You Gov poll where apparently 48% support the idea of another GE. Strangely this rises to 81% of Reform voters and 77% of Conservative voters.
As those strong supporters of democracy said after the Brexit vote, “you lost, suck it up”!

At least we will have another GE in 2029 so they can express their displeasure, whilst Brexit means Brexit.


turbobloke

111,892 posts

275 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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Boringvolvodriver said:
bad company said:
What an odd way of looking at it. In both cases the people or ‘f******s’ as you call them wanted to express their displeasure at the decisions.

No Brexit won’t be reversed and there won’t be an early GE due to the petition but in both cases the issues were highlighted and were or will be discussed in Parliament.

Edited by bad company on Friday 29th November 20:43
Just seen the results of a You Gov poll where apparently 48% support the idea of another GE. Strangely this rises to 81% of Reform voters and 77% of Conservative voters.
As those strong supporters of democracy said after the Brexit vote, “you lost, suck it up”!

At least we will have another GE in 2029 so they can express their displeasure, whilst Brexit means Brexit.
That reflects what was offered in the referendum and what's on offer in a general election.

This is from the £9m 'public information leaflet' aka Project Fear Propaganda which CMD's gov't sent to every household. A costly fail but informative all the same.


Of course there won't be a GE, nevertheless despite brassneck from Starmer and Labour the January debate will be another embarrassment for the government, and news coverage will help to promote the petition and get many more signatures before it closes in May 2025.

p1stonhead

27,678 posts

182 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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turbobloke said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
bad company said:
What an odd way of looking at it. In both cases the people or ‘f******s’ as you call them wanted to express their displeasure at the decisions.

No Brexit won’t be reversed and there won’t be an early GE due to the petition but in both cases the issues were highlighted and were or will be discussed in Parliament.

Edited by bad company on Friday 29th November 20:43
Just seen the results of a You Gov poll where apparently 48% support the idea of another GE. Strangely this rises to 81% of Reform voters and 77% of Conservative voters.
As those strong supporters of democracy said after the Brexit vote, “you lost, suck it up”!

At least we will have another GE in 2029 so they can express their displeasure, whilst Brexit means Brexit.
That reflects what was offered in the referendum and what's on offer in a general election.

This is from the £9m 'public information leaflet' aka Project Fear Propaganda which CMD's gov't sent to every household. A costly fail but informative all the same.


Of course there won't be a GE, nevertheless despite brassneck from Starmer and Labour the January debate will be another embarrassment for the government, and news coverage will help to promote the petition and get many more signatures before it closes in May 2025.
Project Fear turned out to be Project Reality though.

Boringvolvodriver

10,381 posts

58 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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p1stonhead said:
Project Fear turned out to be Project Reality though.
No no no - the sunlit uplands are still awaiting us! Having listened to Ben Habib out of interest rather than supporting him- interesting that he has “resigned” from Reform because in his opinion Farage and gang don’t believe in delivering Brexit, apparently!

Anyway off topic.

Castrol for a knave

6,068 posts

106 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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I am outraged, outraged I tell you, that Keir Starmer has not turned around 14 years of disinvestment and fkwittery in 4 months.

The petition is like the circulation number on the header of the Daily Mail, it's a running total of fkwits in the uk**





  • . When a right winger says something like this, it is "saying it as it is". When anyone left of Andrew Mitchell says it, it's "sneering metropolitan elites".

coldel

9,020 posts

161 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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turbobloke said:
Of course there won't be a GE, nevertheless despite brassneck from Starmer and Labour the January debate will be another embarrassment for the government, and news coverage will help to promote the petition and get many more signatures before it closes in May 2025.
I think Labour have some way to go to get even close to the previous occupants of downing streets level of embarrassment. I think also you are getting overly excited about something that will be nothing but a ripple in the grand scheme of things … remember this happened two years ago (but do you?) and as expected no one cared two hoots about it and the debate was held in a side chamber with hardly any attendance https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/...

bad company

20,499 posts

281 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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Boringvolvodriver said:
bad company said:
What an odd way of looking at it. In both cases the people or ‘f******s’ as you call them wanted to express their displeasure at the decisions.

No Brexit won’t be reversed and there won’t be an early GE due to the petition but in both cases the issues were highlighted and were or will be discussed in Parliament.

Edited by bad company on Friday 29th November 20:43
Just seen the results of a You Gov poll where apparently 48% support the idea of another GE. Strangely this rises to 81% of Reform voters and 77% of Conservative voters.
As those strong supporters of democracy said after the Brexit vote, “you lost, suck it up”!

At least we will have another GE in 2029 so they can express their displeasure, whilst Brexit means Brexit.
Losing side say yes when asked if they’d like a rematch shocker!!!

Of course they answered that way, the question was ‘ support the idea of another GE’.

coldel

9,020 posts

161 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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Basically losers having a whinge
Which happens every time
Since elections began
Just this time they started a petition with a stupid title

But then again if the petition was called “petition to show how much of a bunch of bad losers we are” it might not have gotten so much traction either

bad company

20,499 posts

281 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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coldel said:
Basically losers having a whinge
Which happens every time
Since elections began
Just this time they started a petition with a stupid title

But then again if the petition was called “petition to show how much of a bunch of bad losers we are” it might not have gotten so much traction either
As the saying goes ‘Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser’.

As I said earlier in the thread I signed the petition. Not because I expected or even really wanted a GE but to send a message to the sad bunch of idiots running our country.

coldel

9,020 posts

161 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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The government has social media analysts, comms teams, media monitors. They know what the countries view of them is, and in addition, they can compare this data with benchmarks of other sentiment be it positive negative or somewhere in the middle. This is so much more meaningful than a one dimensional online poll.

The petition is something which has no benchmark, it has no context, and given the brexit losers petition moan, the Tories 2022 in power petition moan, this is just another in a line of petitions of people that will just moan when they lose. 3m people dont like Labour in an online one sided poll is going to send no message at all that they don't already know.

If you really feel that strongly, then do something more than bang out your name and post code on a screen. Get out there and do something proactive, demonstrate, work with your local MPs to get proper messages across. Find data that shows how this has negatively affected you and your constituency and present it. If you really feel that strongly about sending a message.

bad company

20,499 posts

281 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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coldel said:
The government has social media analysts, comms teams, media monitors. They know what the countries view of them is, and in addition, they can compare this data with benchmarks of other sentiment be it positive negative or somewhere in the middle. This is so much more meaningful than a one dimensional online poll.

The petition is something which has no benchmark, it has no context, and given the brexit losers petition moan, the Tories 2022 in power petition moan, this is just another in a line of petitions of people that will just moan when they lose. 3m people dont like Labour in an online one sided poll is going to send no message at all that they don't already know.

If you really feel that strongly, then do something more than bang out your name and post code on a screen. Get out there and do something proactive, demonstrate, work with your local MPs to get proper messages across. Find data that shows how this has negatively affected you and your constituency and present it. If you really feel that strongly about sending a message.
You don’t like petitions, fair enough.

robemcdonald

9,423 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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my only interest is seeing if it actually makes 3 million. I don’t think it’s gone up by more than. Hundred or so since yesterday.

bad company

20,499 posts

281 months

Saturday 30th November 2024
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robemcdonald said:
my only interest is seeing if it actually makes 3 million. I don’t think it’s gone up by more than. Hundred or so since yesterday.
No, it seems to have run out of steam. No longer being reported either.