Another BBC Presenter in Trouble, Gregg Wallace

[number2]

bhstewie said:

Terminator X said:

Lol I don't tell sexist jokes but it's hardly a Big Deal is it. Perhaps the people in the room should have told him direct at the time.

TX.

Nice attitude there.

Perhaps the people in the room didn't feel comfortable doing so.

There's often a power imbalance with things like this.

Plus it's not the responsibility of the complainant to confront the person they're complaining about.

Like I said had to course this week so it's kind of fresh in the mind.

Power imbalance though?

Successful, wealthy, powerful people = Rod Stewart and Penny Lancaster.

Nob head = Greggggg Wallace.

Stepping back from what the nob head did or didn't do, we aren't talking about Sally in Tescos being scared to stand up, we're talking about people that are well above Greggggggg in the food chain.

[Glassman]

Not sure if it's a video in response to the gardening leave, just seen one of him thanking people for their support.

[bitchstewie]

number2 said:

Power imbalance though?

Successful, wealthy, powerful people = Rod Stewart and Penny Lancaster.

Nob head = Greggggg Wallace.

Stepping back from what the nob head did or didn't do, we aren't talking about Sally in Tescos being scared to stand up, we're talking about people that are well above Greggggggg in the food chain.

I'm not talking about the likes of Stewart or Lancaster though that doesn't make it any more acceptable.

I'm talking about the sort of comments he allegedly made in front of the production team.

[vaud]

Cold said:

Meanwhile, his lawyers say "It is entirely false that he engages in behaviour of a sexually harassing nature".

Of course it depends on what he has told his lawyers…

[number2]

bhstewie said:

number2 said:

Power imbalance though?

Successful, wealthy, powerful people = Rod Stewart and Penny Lancaster.

Nob head = Greggggg Wallace.

Stepping back from what the nob head did or didn't do, we aren't talking about Sally in Tescos being scared to stand up, we're talking about people that are well above Greggggggg in the food chain.

I'm not talking about the likes of Stewart or Lancaster though that doesn't make it any more acceptable.

I'm talking about the sort of comments he allegedly made in front of the production team.

I'm not saying anything is acceptable or otherwise.

One person making comments in front of a production team isn't a Harvey Weinstein casting couch power dynamic. It's more a group of people turning round to each other and slagging off the nob head saying inappropriate things.

Maybe the nob end Greggggg is the victim .

Light touch paper and retreat.

[PRO5T]

Glassman said:

Not sure if it's a video in response to the gardening leave, just seen one of him thanking people for their support.

Just trying to control the narrative, he’s a social media influencer now and won’t want his income from that to dry up.

[bitchstewie]

number2 said:

I'm not saying anything is acceptable or otherwise.

One person making comments in front of a production team isn't a Harvey Weinstein casting couch power dynamic. It's more a group of people turning round to each other and slagging off the nob head saying inappropriate things.

Maybe the nob end Greggggg is the victim .

Light touch paper and retreat.

Where do you think the balance of power lies between a production assistant or runner or junior member of the production team on something like MasterChef and one of the presenters of the show like Wallace?

[number2]

bhstewie said:

number2 said:

I'm not saying anything is acceptable or otherwise.

One person making comments in front of a production team isn't a Harvey Weinstein casting couch power dynamic. It's more a group of people turning round to each other and slagging off the nob head saying inappropriate things.

Maybe the nob end Greggggg is the victim .

Light touch paper and retreat.

Where do you think the balance of power lies between a production assistant or runner or junior member of the production team on something like MasterChef and one of the presenters of the show like Wallace?

Was Gregggg having a one on one dirty joke session with a runner or junior production team member?

[bitchstewie]

Not sure what you mean by that.

You can read the allegations.

Gregg Wallace is accused of 'racism' after allegedly saying 'me so horny' about Asian MasterChef contestant and making 'kung fu noises', ex-staff member claims

This sort of thing.

[Southerner]

bhstewie said:

Not sure what you mean by that.

You can read the allegations.

Gregg Wallace is accused of 'racism' after allegedly saying 'me so horny' about Asian MasterChef contestant and making 'kung fu noises', ex-staff member claims

This sort of thing.

F**k me, that’s just utter cringe.

It’s known that John Torode is Gregg’s mate outside of work, best man at his wedding etc, but I’ve often wondered what Marcus Wareing and Chef Monica make of him away from the cameras. He’s quite the contrast to the two of them when they present Celebrity MC together. There’s always one particular round they film with just Marcus & Monica doing the honours, Gregg is nowhere to be seen; always wondered what that’s all about.

Edited by Southerner on Saturday 30th November 13:02

[number2]

bhstewie said:

Not sure what you mean by that.

You can read the allegations.

Gregg Wallace is accused of 'racism' after allegedly saying 'me so horny' about Asian MasterChef contestant and making 'kung fu noises', ex-staff member claims

This sort of thing.

The bloke is a moron, said things he shouldn't have, should be castigated and the BBC need to do something about themselves... on the latter, they might be beyond redemption... so I'm not sure how they can be fixed.

The real story is how the BBC continue to ignore this type of behaviour.

Power imbalance isn't the issue outside of the BBC thinking he's too amazing to lose.

[Southerner]

number2 said:

The bloke is a moron, said things he shouldn't have, should be castigated and the BBC need to do something about themselves... on the latter, they might be beyond redemption... so I'm not sure how they can be fixed.

The real story is how the BBC continue to ignore this type of behaviour.

Power imbalance isn't the issue outside of the BBC thinking he's too amazing to lose.

Which again raises the question why now? What is it that’s finally forced all of this up to the surface after seemingly many years of this behaviour going on.

[chrispmartha]

Southerner said:

number2 said:

The bloke is a moron, said things he shouldn't have, should be castigated and the BBC need to do something about themselves... on the latter, they might be beyond redemption... so I'm not sure how they can be fixed.

The real story is how the BBC continue to ignore this type of behaviour.

Power imbalance isn't the issue outside of the BBC thinking he's too amazing to lose.

Which again raises the question why now? What is it that’s finally forced all of this up to the surface after seemingly many years of this behaviour going on.

It’s quite usual for these things to snowball because people will now feel more comfortable about raising the issues.

[number2]

Southerner said:

number2 said:

The bloke is a moron, said things he shouldn't have, should be castigated and the BBC need to do something about themselves... on the latter, they might be beyond redemption... so I'm not sure how they can be fixed.

The real story is how the BBC continue to ignore this type of behaviour.

Power imbalance isn't the issue outside of the BBC thinking he's too amazing to lose.

Which again raises the question why now? What is it that’s finally forced all of this up to the surface after seemingly many years of this behaviour going on.

Good question.

The bloke is an offensive prick if even only some of what is said is true.

He is quite low on the scale of nasty behaviour. Think Saville et al.

The question is, wtaf is wrong with the BBC? Or is it that we just don't hear about it at other production companies?

[bitchstewie]

number2 said:

The bloke is a moron, said things he shouldn't have, should be castigated and the BBC need to do something about themselves... on the latter, they might be beyond redemption... so I'm not sure how they can be fixed.

The real story is how the BBC continue to ignore this type of behaviour.

Power imbalance isn't the issue outside of the BBC thinking he's too amazing to lose.

I don't think the two things are mutually exclusive.

Power imbalances are one of many reasons people may think they can get away with the sorts of behaviour that's been alleged.

If you're a junior member of staff can you imagine how difficult it can be go to your HR team about someone who's literally the star of the show.

[Silvanus]

number2 said:

Southerner said:

number2 said:

The bloke is a moron, said things he shouldn't have, should be castigated and the BBC need to do something about themselves... on the latter, they might be beyond redemption... so I'm not sure how they can be fixed.

The real story is how the BBC continue to ignore this type of behaviour.

Power imbalance isn't the issue outside of the BBC thinking he's too amazing to lose.

Which again raises the question why now? What is it that’s finally forced all of this up to the surface after seemingly many years of this behaviour going on.

Good question.

The bloke is an offensive prick if even only some of what is said is true.

He is quite low on the scale of nasty behaviour. Think Saville et al.

The question is, wtaf is wrong with the BBC? Or is it that we just don't hear about it at other production companies?

The BBC don't actually produce Master Chef, it's produced by Banijay UK.

[Bonefish Blues]

Is he on the BBC payroll or is he via his own production company I wonder? If the latter I can see why the BBC might find that a bit challenging, given the struggle they seem to have with their own people...

[Blackpuddin]

scenario8 said:

I just can’t get my head around producers not just acknowledging person X is a liability and quietly dropping them.

With the very real risk of repeating myself, it’s only Gregg Wallace ffs. Surely he’s the very definition of replaceable.

This is the bit I don't get. Nor do I get how a total git like Wallace ends up not just on my TV screen but all over it. Who makes the decisions that allow this to happen?

[Southerner]

Blackpuddin said:

scenario8 said:

I just can’t get my head around producers not just acknowledging person X is a liability and quietly dropping them.

With the very real risk of repeating myself, it’s only Gregg Wallace ffs. Surely he’s the very definition of replaceable.

This is the bit I don't get. Nor do I get how a total git like Wallace ends up not just on my TV screen but all over it. Who makes the decisions that allow this to happen?

I’d forgotten he wasn’t “proper” BBC; I’d hazard a guess that if you’re a private production company you probably wouldn’t be in a rush to sink your most profotable ship, easy to imagine how there might be a stronger will to “find a way forwards” than if you were the actual BBC, who don’t need to worry about their income?

[Countdown]

Looking at him you wouldn't have thought that he was the pervy type.................