47th President of the United States - Donald Trump. Vol. 2

[rscott]

Mortarboard said:

FourWheelDrift said:

They are only going for darker skinned people, they ignore the white immigrant workers in factories and just grab the "foreign looking ones"

Jim Crow laws MkII

DEI supports went first day too. Bad time to be a minority in the US.

M.

Or a federal worker with disabilities, as the DEI staff tend to also be responsible for ensuring those workers have the adaptations they need to perform their jobs...

[pinchmeimdreamin]

thatsprettyshady said:

B'stard Child said:

thatsprettyshady said:

I just want to get on the first page.

Weird

Fair

I don’t want to be on the first page, so I’ll just press watch.

[borcy]

sugerbear said:

Unreal said:

thatsprettyshady said:

One of my favourite things is Left leaning types/Democrats championing what amounts to slave labour when complaining about the impact of illegal immigrants getting deported, on their fking crop picking.

"Oh no, who will pick my crops now that I can't pay some illegal guy $2.00 per hour" - I get that paying your workers a fair wage (at least federal minimum) has the potential to be inflationary but jesus christ anything less shouldn't be happening in a developed country let alone the "greatest" country on earth(tm)!

It's astonishing.

Where as the right think that removing the people that keep food prices low will somehow make a large pool of people take up picking those things at the same price as the ones that just left.

The federal minimum wage is like 7 dollars and something and hasn't been increased since 2009. There is your problem. Rich people getting richer off the backs of cheap labour, be it US or otherwise workers. Race to the bottom in the US.

Seasonal / Crop workers are definitely a thing in California and have been for decades.

I think there's plenty that benefit but either don't realise it or like to pretend they don't.

[FA57REN]

Hippea said:

The Greenland issue is truly bonkers

Depends how you look at it.

Militarily it is strategic, but in 800 years Denmark has done nothing to leverage that importance. All the strategic development in Greenland has been at the initiative ( and mostly at the expense of ) of the USA.

But within days of this issue resurfacing, Denmark announced that it will build an airbase at Kangerlussauq capable of supporting the F-35 and UAVs. So maybe President Trump's tactics worked?

[vaud]

FA57REN said:

Depends how you look at it.

Militarily it is strategic, but in 800 years Denmark has done nothing to leverage that importance. All the strategic development in Greenland has been at the initiative ( and mostly at the expense of ) of the USA.

But within days of this issue resurfacing, Denmark announced that it will build an airbase at Kangerlussauq capable of supporting the F-35 and UAVs. So maybe President Trump's tactics worked?

Indeed. The more I study his approach, the more I think Trump isn't complicated. He has no core beliefs, no compass, he is a transactional bully.

[paulguitar]

vaud said:

Indeed. The more I study his approach, the more I think Trump isn't complicated. He has no core beliefs, no compass, he is a transactional bully.

That's precisely what it is. He has a binary view which is 'winner' or 'loser'. He doesn't do nuance, research, knowledge or due diligence.

[matchmaker]

sugerbear said:

Unreal said:

thatsprettyshady said:

One of my favourite things is Left leaning types/Democrats championing what amounts to slave labour when complaining about the impact of illegal immigrants getting deported, on their fking crop picking.

"Oh no, who will pick my crops now that I can't pay some illegal guy $2.00 per hour" - I get that paying your workers a fair wage (at least federal minimum) has the potential to be inflationary but jesus christ anything less shouldn't be happening in a developed country let alone the "greatest" country on earth(tm)!

It's astonishing.

Where as the right think that removing the people that keep food prices low will somehow make a large pool of people take up picking those things at the same price as the ones that just left.

The federal minimum wage is like 7 dollars and something and hasn't been increased since 2009. There is your problem. Rich people getting richer off the backs of cheap labour, be it US or otherwise workers. Race to the bottom in the US.

Seasonal / Crop workers are definitely a thing in California and have been for decades.

Protest song by Woodie Guthrie, also covered by the Highwaymen "Deportee (plane wreck at Los Gatos)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportee_(Plane_Wrec...

[Mortarboard]

So first week we've had:

Dismantling of protections for disabled, minorities and people of color
A "can't call it a nazi salute" on stage at the inauguration
Illegal deportations
Retaliatory attacks on civil personnel and others
An effective ban on hiring of folk "with the wrong political beliefs"
Threats, including military action, on neighbors and allies
Grifting on a massive scale
Illegal orders
Unconstituonal orders
Mass release of criminals who supported him violently

Tell me again how "fascist" is the wrong description?

M.

[sugerbear]

vaud said:

FA57REN said:

Depends how you look at it.

Militarily it is strategic, but in 800 years Denmark has done nothing to leverage that importance. All the strategic development in Greenland has been at the initiative ( and mostly at the expense of ) of the USA.

But within days of this issue resurfacing, Denmark announced that it will build an airbase at Kangerlussauq capable of supporting the F-35 and UAVs. So maybe President Trump's tactics worked?

Indeed. The more I study his approach, the more I think Trump isn't complicated. He has no core beliefs, no compass, he is a transactional bully.

Maybe they will lease the base to the US for some bigly dollars

[Countdown]

CoolHands said:

Trump is carrying out actions many people agree with. Make nato pay their way. Deport illegal criminals. Withdraw from WHO

What about legal criminals?

[thatsprettyshady]

Mortarboard said:

So first week we've had:

Dismantling of protections for disabled, minorities and people of color
A "can't call it a nazi salute" on stage at the inauguration
Illegal deportations
Retaliatory attacks on civil personnel and others
An effective ban on hiring of folk "with the wrong political beliefs"
Threats, including military action, on neighbors and allies
Grifting on a massive scale
Illegal orders
Unconstituonal orders
Mass release of criminals who supported him violently

Tell me again how "fascist" is the wrong description?

M.

I surprised you're not dizzy M

[Countdown]

handpaper said:

FourWheelDrift said:

It's only what member countries pay for their own military, so maybe Donald should cut US Military spending to be more in line with other NATO countries, he could spend the excess cash on much needed social services and care for the people, rebuilding devastated areas from fire, floods and hurricanes and rejuvenate run down cities like Detroit. But no, the USA is a mad military machine it would never do anything like that, but if they want to spend that much they can, but we don't have to.

The 2% figure is what NATO heads of State agreed last year. Current US defence spending is 3.45% of GDP; if the US were to reduce it to 2%, the rest of NATO would have to increase defence spending to at least 4% of GDP to make up for that.

Does that 3.45% include the amount it gives to Israel, or does that come out of a different pot?

[zb]

Mortarboard said:

So first week we've had:

Dismantling of protections for disabled, minorities and people of color
A "can't call it a nazi salute" on stage at the inauguration
Illegal deportations
Retaliatory attacks on civil personnel and others
An effective ban on hiring of folk "with the wrong political beliefs"
Threats, including military action, on neighbors and allies
Grifting on a massive scale
Illegal orders
Unconstituonal orders
Mass release of criminals who supported him violently

Tell me again how "fascist" is the wrong description?

M.

Let's check them off, shall we?

[Mortarboard]

Pffft, did you not see shadys comment. Thats "spin"



M.

[rscott]

Countdown said:

handpaper said:

FourWheelDrift said:

It's only what member countries pay for their own military, so maybe Donald should cut US Military spending to be more in line with other NATO countries, he could spend the excess cash on much needed social services and care for the people, rebuilding devastated areas from fire, floods and hurricanes and rejuvenate run down cities like Detroit. But no, the USA is a mad military machine it would never do anything like that, but if they want to spend that much they can, but we don't have to.

The 2% figure is what NATO heads of State agreed last year. Current US defence spending is 3.45% of GDP; if the US were to reduce it to 2%, the rest of NATO would have to increase defence spending to at least 4% of GDP to make up for that.

Does that 3.45% include the amount it gives to Israel, or does that come out of a different pot?

If the US reduces military spending, then that should free up quite a bit of manufacturing capacity in the US, so those highly trained engineers currently building jet fighters and tanks can build the crap people are currently buying from Temu (and will have increased in price due to tariffs).

Seriously though, if the US reduces defence spending at all, it'll have a huge impact on domestic manufacturing.

[Mortarboard]

Or perhaps not. Most us defense spending is domestic, is it not?

M.

[bloomen]

rscott said:

If the US reduces military spending, then that should free up quite a bit of manufacturing capacity in the US, so those highly trained engineers currently building jet fighters and tanks can build the crap people are currently buying from Temu (and will have increased in price due to tariffs).

Allowing defence manufacturing skills and capacity to slide wouldn't be the cleverest move in modern times, not that it's going to be crossing minds any time soon.

[paulguitar]

Countdown said:

CoolHands said:

Trump is carrying out actions many people agree with. Make nato pay their way. Deport illegal criminals. Withdraw from WHO

What about legal criminals?

They get to be president.

[paulguitar]

zb said:

Mortarboard said:

So first week we've had:

Dismantling of protections for disabled, minorities and people of color
A "can't call it a nazi salute" on stage at the inauguration
Illegal deportations
Retaliatory attacks on civil personnel and others
An effective ban on hiring of folk "with the wrong political beliefs"
Threats, including military action, on neighbors and allies
Grifting on a massive scale
Illegal orders
Unconstituonal orders
Mass release of criminals who supported him violently

Tell me again how "fascist" is the wrong description?

M.

Let's check them off, shall we?

Crikey, looking at that is a bit sobering.

[Unreal]

It reads more like Pol Pot's house rules. Would be better if it added that everyone has to wear black jim jams.