47th President of the United States - Donald Trump. Vol. 2

[captain_cynic]

Wadeski said:

hidetheelephants said:

swisstoni said:

I don’t follow aircraft like I used to but isn’t drone technology now rendering these super-fighters into show-boat territory anyway?

Every country which has the ability to build 6th gen aircraft is spending billions to ensure they can have them. Duncan Sandys reckoned manned aircraft were obsolete in 1957, he was wrong too and it cost the UK very dearly.

And the french jeune ecole thought small torpedo boats would make capital ships obsolete, and they were dead wrong too.

Its a big jump to abandon old technology on the promise of new, until tested.

Yep, as demonstrated by the F4 Phantom, designed with no guns because they thought missiles were good enough.

Ironically for Jeune Ecole, it wasn't the torpedo boat but small cheap aircraft delivering torpedoes that saw the end of the capital ship. That being said, a modern destroyer can get up to 10,000t so that's as much as a small dreadnought battleship.

Edit: Zumwalt class is nearly 16,000t... so that's a large pre-dread. I believe HMS Dreadnought herself was around 23,000t

Edited by captain_cynic on Friday 14th March 20:05

[hidetheelephants]

In terms of its abilities, both at conception and now(or at least once fitted with Prompt Strike), and displacement Zumwalt is a cruiser, although TBH the definitions have been largely arbitrary since the end of WW2. The Royal Navy's County class were cruisers in all but name but were called destroyers for political reasons.

[Acorn1]

greygoose said:

hidetheelephants said:

swisstoni said:

I don’t follow aircraft like I used to but isn’t drone technology now rendering these super-fighters into show-boat territory anyway?

Every country which has the ability to build 6th gen aircraft is spending billions to ensure they can have them. Duncan Sandys reckoned manned aircraft were obsolete in 1957, he was wrong too and it cost the UK very dearly.

Why bother designing an aircraft that needs a pilot though, the human seems to be the weak link in the design, we aren’t in 1957 any more?

My understanding is that the tempest is designed to be able to control a swarm of drones in flight.

Kind of a mothership.

[borcy]

Trump in his speech mentioned how much they'd reduced the border crossing.

This true?

[Mr-B]

borcy said:

Trump in his speech mentioned how much they'd reduced the border crossing.

This true?

If Trump said it..... take a wild guess.

[airbusA346]

US turns to Denmark as it hunts for eggs despite Trump’s threat over Greenland

Danish Egg Association says US asked if it could export eggs as prices surge despite president’s promise to lower them

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/14/tr...

[turbobloke]

Mr-B said:

borcy said:

Trump in his speech mentioned how much they'd reduced the border crossing.

This true?

If Trump said it..... take a wild guess.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-plunge-to-levels-not-seen-in-decades-amid-trump-crackdown/

[FredericRobinson]

CraigyMc said:

Nice chart, what is it?

[hidetheelephants]

FredericRobinson said:

CraigyMc said:

Nice chart, what is it?

A graph showing the value of support to Ukraine measured against GDP.

[minimoog]

turbobloke said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-plu...

Well that makes it all okay then doesn't it.

In wker land.

[FredericRobinson]

hidetheelephants said:

A graph showing the value of support to Ukraine measured against GDP.

Piss poor effort from Germany

[JJJ.]

minimoog said:

Well that makes it all okay then doesn't it.

In wker land.

[CambsBill]

airbusA346 said:

US turns to Denmark as it hunts for eggs despite Trump’s threat over Greenland

Danish Egg Association says US asked if it could export eggs as prices surge despite president’s promise to lower them

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/14/tr...

Sounds like they haven't got any to spare but if they had no doubt the price would, ahem, "reflect economic conditions" and the eggs very prominently marked "Product of Denmark".

[Jockman]

minimoog said:

turbobloke said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-plu...

Well that makes it all okay then doesn't it.

In wker land.

You're usually better than that.

[paulguitar]

turbobloke said:

Mr-B said:

borcy said:

Trump in his speech mentioned how much they'd reduced the border crossing.

This true?

If Trump said it..... take a wild guess.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-crossings-plunge-to-levels-not-seen-in-decades-amid-trump-crackdown/

Seriously, who the hell would want to go to the USA now? So it makes sense...

[Starfighter]

epom said:

So it’s ship building in the crosshairs today. He’s nothing but thorough in fairness

Bad ship building, very bad ships, the worst ships.

Scottish ferries?

[NRS]

Mortarboard said:

vaud said:

Blackpuddin said:

rscott said:

Moving production to the US can cost millions

I think you might have meant billions.

Billions and a very long lead time. Takes 3-5 years for a chip plant for example.

And the idiot canceled the chip act.

M.

Isn’t the chip act just throwing some money at a friendly billionaire or two, and costing the public extra money to fund the change, and likely to result in higher costs due to it being expensive to make them in the US?

[Mortarboard]

NRS said:

Isn’t the chip act just throwing some money at a friendly billionaire or two, and costing the public extra money to fund the change, and likely to result in higher costs due to it being expensive to make them in the US?

You're thinknling of a more orange "leader"

Chips act promoted each phase of the process required to make chips. Making it quicker, easier and cheaper to get chip production up amd running.

Right now, contacts care being "announced" (tmnc) but little actually taking place until sense returns.

M.

[bloomen]

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/14/politics/rubio-...

The South African ambassador to the US is declared persona non grata.

Partially at least for calling out the government's white supremacist instincts.

[Ridgemont]

bloomen said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/14/politics/rubio-...

The South African ambassador to the US is declared persona non grata.

Partially at least for calling out the government's white supremacist instincts.

What a load of hooey.

From the same article:

“The expropriation law empowers South Africa’s government to take land and redistribute it – with no obligation to pay compensation in some instances – if the seizure is found to be “just and equitable and in the public interest.”

So what the South African government is doing, and there is no equivocation here, is seizing ‘white’ land for redistribution. Without recompense.

White supremacist instincts.

bks.