Planners being conservative
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I'm not a planning expert by any stretch but if there are other properties like yours nearby or next door then that is totally out of keeping with the area and I can well see why it would be objected to. If I lived next door to you and my neighbours intended to do that, I'd have something to say about it as well.
What's the street like, is it typical suburban semi/detached etc or rural and out of the way, large plots, no near neighbours etc?
What's the street like, is it typical suburban semi/detached etc or rural and out of the way, large plots, no near neighbours etc?
Marmax said:
I’ve put in for planning and the case officer has just been to visit site because one of my neighbours has kicked off.
I got the feeling from him that they are going to refuse it because it’s “different”.
To say I’m a bit pissed off is a understatement.
In my experience, planners prefer exactly the opposite. They like to see an extension that reflects the time it was built, even if it appears to a layperson like it's totally out of keeping.I got the feeling from him that they are going to refuse it because it’s “different”.
To say I’m a bit pissed off is a understatement.
I like the concept but do have a couple of comments.
Is that a balcony? Thats a big No in my area unless some screening is introduced.
Is the 2 storey extension higher than the eaves? It might be worth introducing an element of pitched roof even if just a 1m or 2 as it will lessen the impact to the neighbour.
Is that a balcony? Thats a big No in my area unless some screening is introduced.
Is the 2 storey extension higher than the eaves? It might be worth introducing an element of pitched roof even if just a 1m or 2 as it will lessen the impact to the neighbour.
Marmax said:
So said:
In my experience, planners prefer exactly the opposite. They like to see extensions that reflect the time they were built, even if it appears to a layperson like it's totally out of keeping.
That’s what I would have thought but it wasn’t the impression I was given today.DoubleD said:
It does look rather......odd, so I can see why others would be concerned.
I don't agree, I think it is good.I'd check the dimensions to make sure the new extension is approximately 1.62 times wide as it is tall. If it was architect designed it probably is. But I think it's a good effort.
barryrs said:
I like the concept but do have a couple of comments.
Is that a balcony? Thats a big No in my area unless some screening is introduced.
Is the 2 storey extension higher than the eaves? It might be worth introducing an element of pitched roof even if just a 1m or 2 as it will lessen the impact to the neighbour.
The architect did originally spec a balcony but I got them to scrap it.Is that a balcony? Thats a big No in my area unless some screening is introduced.
Is the 2 storey extension higher than the eaves? It might be worth introducing an element of pitched roof even if just a 1m or 2 as it will lessen the impact to the neighbour.
Toltec said:
We are having to build a house that looks like it was built in the fifties then modernised. Tried for something more contemporary, but it wasn't to the planning officers taste. She seemed to have a preference for neo-mocktudor or faux Georgian mcmansions.
I feel your pain. 
Rangeroverover said:
wheres Equus?
Marmax said:
It’s typical 1980,s developer rubbish with obligatory upvc conservatory. It is detached neighbours to the side but field to the rear.
I think this is your problem, bluntly.Ironically, if it was attached to something with a bit more character, they might be more receptive to it (indeed there have been RIBA prize winners that take a not dissimilar approach).
Attached to a 1980's brick box, it becomes an exercise in turd polishing.
Or to use another analogy: if you see a Ferrari being driven by someone young, obviously rich, and glamorous, that's fine. If you see one being driven by an older person of sophsticated appearance, that's fine, too.
If you see one being driven by a 5'4" bloke with a beer belly and a combover, dressed in a polyester suit, that's just cringe inducing...
Not all of us can be glamorous and well presented, of course (...don't I know it?), but if you're really very average, you should at least have the good taste to recognise the fact, and not pretend to be something you aren't.
FWIIW, I don't dislike the approach, but I think it needs a parent property with greater strength of character to carry it off.
:stands back and waits for the abuse:
Equus said:
I think this is your problem, bluntly.
Ironically, if it was attached to something with a bit more character, they might be more receptive to it (indeed there have been RIBA prize winners that take a not dissimilar approach).
Attached to a 1980's brick box, it becomes an exercise in turd polishing.
Or to use another analogy: if you see a Ferrari being driven by someone young, obviously rich, and glamorous, that's fine. If you see one being driven by an older person of sophsticated appearance, that's fine, too.
If you see one being driven by a 5'4" bloke with a beer belly and a combover, dressed in a polyester suit, that's just cringe inducing...
Not all of us can be glamorous and well presented, of course (...don't I know it?), but if you're really very average, you should at least have the good taste to recognise the fact, and not pretend to be something you aren't.
FWIIW, I don't dislike the approach, but I think it needs a parent property with greater strength of character to carry it off.
:stands back and waits for the abuse:
I agree fully it is polishing a turd but I think it’s better to polish it than stick another turd on it.Ironically, if it was attached to something with a bit more character, they might be more receptive to it (indeed there have been RIBA prize winners that take a not dissimilar approach).
Attached to a 1980's brick box, it becomes an exercise in turd polishing.
Or to use another analogy: if you see a Ferrari being driven by someone young, obviously rich, and glamorous, that's fine. If you see one being driven by an older person of sophsticated appearance, that's fine, too.
If you see one being driven by a 5'4" bloke with a beer belly and a combover, dressed in a polyester suit, that's just cringe inducing...
Not all of us can be glamorous and well presented, of course (...don't I know it?), but if you're really very average, you should at least have the good taste to recognise the fact, and not pretend to be something you aren't.
FWIIW, I don't dislike the approach, but I think it needs a parent property with greater strength of character to carry it off.
:stands back and waits for the abuse:
Marmax said:
I agree fully it is polishing a turd but I think it’s better to polish it than stick another turd on it.
Well, I think you might find that the Planners disagree.They may well take the view (and I would support them to some degree) that the character of the neighbouring development simply isn't robust enough to carry it off.
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