Is anyone moving now?

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C70R

17,596 posts

104 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Petrus1983 said:
C70R said:
Given that they have likely got a book full of people who are more ready to move, why would they prioritise you? Their business is to sell property as quickly as possible.
They obviously don’t have a book full of people in a better position.

That house would be ringing alarm bells very loudly for me. This may be why nobody is viewing it.

Petrus1983

8,704 posts

162 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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C70R said:
Petrus1983 said:
C70R said:
Given that they have likely got a book full of people who are more ready to move, why would they prioritise you? Their business is to sell property as quickly as possible.
They obviously don’t have a book full of people in a better position.

That house would be ringing alarm bells very loudly for me. This may be why nobody is viewing it.
It needs around £100k spent on it - I think most people aren’t in the position to have that available on a £300-350k place. However - I’ve provided the agents with my pending listing, cash availability and they still won’t let me see it.

ETA - no ones viewing it as you can’t without having accepted an offer on your current property - estate agents rules - but I don’t want to do that as I don’t want to commit to a sale nor waste someone’s time without knowing what I’m aiming for.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Just picked up a couple of properties out of our usual area in Spalding, although they will be refurbed and let out.

One property we nearly missed as i wasn't really looking, but we picked up last month and the agent had around 50 enquiries about it.

Blown2CV

28,808 posts

203 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Petrus1983 said:
I’m finding it impossible to view properties - the agents won’t allow me to view a certain property until I’ve accepted an offer on my place. They’re saying it’s because of Covid restrictions but I’m calling bs on that as they won’t even do a FaceTime viewing. I’ve had to resort to posting a note through a door today asking if the vendor could contact me - it’s been on the market for a while (considering the booming market) and has been reduced by £75k so far.
you're not proceedable. This isn't a COVID thing it's a been the case forever thing.

The ArtfulBodger

241 posts

37 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Blown2CV said:
you're not proceedable. This isn't a COVID thing it's a been the case forever thing.
Spot on.

We didn't entertain the thought of looking at houses until we had a firm offer on our old house.

If nothing else it stops you getting too keen about the house you'd like to buy if the one you have to sell is slow to shift.

Proceedable buyers will always be worth more of the EA and vendors time, those hoping to be procedable less so.

David87

6,656 posts

212 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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I must say I was surprised at the lack of qualification that I was subjected to when buying this time around. All I was asked was what position I was in (sold to a couple in rented - I didn’t view before I was sold), but had to provide no proof of this as they just took my word for it. Also didn’t ask if I could actually afford what I was viewing / had a mortgage offer etc. Same treatment from 4 or 5 different local agents.

Only once I’d had an offer accepted did they start anything more rigorous. Different approach to what I’d told my selling agents to do - i.e. I’m only interested in people who can actually buy today; I’m not cleaning, tidying and then leaving the house for someone having a day out. hehe

Rob.

224 posts

35 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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I practically had to do a mortage application as part of the vetting process for a big high street agent sleep Yet the previous offer we placed with a different agent involved zero checks.

But then after all that, they haven't even confirmed if our offer has been accepted after 3 weeks and 10+ phone calls.

Octoposse

2,158 posts

185 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Just had our house valued today, marginally under two years since we moved in. Was going to be our "forever house" but it's two miles from the sea so if we could get a bit closer . . .

Got quite excited by the valuation - offers over £450k, since we bought for 365k and have a tiny mortgage with cash in the bank.

But . . . just been looking on Rightmove and there is quite literally nothing attractive under 650 that isn't Under Offer or Sold STC. Makes me think our 450k valuation is too low, but even so it looks as if selling would be pointless.

bennno

11,634 posts

269 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Frik said:
Our buyer initially offered with the condition of meeting the deadline which was a) tight time-wise and b) completely out of our hands. We refused and they came back with an offer of asking with no conditions, which we accepted.

We then heard via their solicitor that they were keen to get going (despite previously saying they weren't in a rush because they were in rented) and would like a discount for meeting the deadline. We politely suggested what they could do with this plan...

It's been a few months since and we just can't find anything suitable (or even close to suitable) so looking forward to them asking for a discount again tomorrow. Their problem is there isn't anything else for them to buy either so I guess we're stuck like this for the time being.
You’ll either find something, or they’ll just stope waiting and find another property unless yours is unique.

Petrus1983

8,704 posts

162 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Octoposse said:
Just had our house valued today, marginally under two years since we moved in. Was going to be our "forever house" but it's two miles from the sea so if we could get a bit closer . . .

Got quite excited by the valuation - offers over £450k, since we bought for 365k and have a tiny mortgage with cash in the bank.

But . . . just been looking on Rightmove and there is quite literally nothing attractive under 650 that isn't Under Offer or Sold STC. Makes me think our 450k valuation is too low, but even so it looks as if selling would be pointless.
Even 2 miles is great. I thought Bath was my forever home - but it’s 2 hours from my boat in Weymouth so I’m moving myself and the boat closer to the water - hopefully much closer.


servantleader

113 posts

127 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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David87 said:
I must say I was surprised at the lack of qualification that I was subjected to when buying this time around. All I was asked was what position I was in (sold to a couple in rented - I didn’t view before I was sold), but had to provide no proof of this as they just took my word for it. Also didn’t ask if I could actually afford what I was viewing / had a mortgage offer etc. Same treatment from 4 or 5 different local agents.

Only once I’d had an offer accepted did they start anything more rigorous. Different approach to what I’d told my selling agents to do - i.e. I’m only interested in people who can actually buy today; I’m not cleaning, tidying and then leaving the house for someone having a day out. hehe
Likewise, I didn't have to show any estate agents any proof at any point. Even after I'd had my offer accepted, the agent didn't ask for proof, but having the the mortgage offer in my hand within 48 hours was probably enough!

Petrus1983

8,704 posts

162 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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I’m going to show proof of funds today - but not overly happy about showing a stranger that information just to see a house they haven’t been able to sell in 2 years.

Frik

13,542 posts

243 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Octoposse said:
But . . . just been looking on Rightmove and there is quite literally nothing attractive under 650 that isn't Under Offer or Sold STC. Makes me think our 450k valuation is too low, but even so it looks as if selling would be pointless.
And therein lies the issue: no supply. You can't move if there's nothing to move to. Hence our situation. It's also why EAs can be extremely picky with who they let through the door.

Having said that, Rightmove is not the oracle it once was. Lots of vendors steering clear of it or, like one of our local EAs, leaving properties showing as For Sale right up to the day of completion.

bennno said:
You’ll either find something, or they’ll just stope waiting and find another property unless yours is unique.
That's about the size of it. It's just a case of who loses patience first, then or us. No word from their solicitor though...

ooid

4,088 posts

100 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Petrus1983 said:
I’m finding it impossible to view properties - the agents won’t allow me to view a certain property until I’ve accepted an offer on my place. They’re saying it’s because of Covid restrictions but I’m calling bs on that as they won’t even do a FaceTime viewing. I’ve had to resort to posting a note through a door today asking if the vendor could contact me - it’s been on the market for a while (considering the booming market) and has been reduced by £75k so far.
They have been probably instructed by the vendor. Last time, I've instructed agents to arrange viewings only for potential buyers with min. 50% deposit, and ready to go (no chain). It annoys a few a potential buyers first, works like a charm later TBH.

Flooble

5,565 posts

100 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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ooid said:
Petrus1983 said:
I’m finding it impossible to view properties - the agents won’t allow me to view a certain property until I’ve accepted an offer on my place. They’re saying it’s because of Covid restrictions but I’m calling bs on that as they won’t even do a FaceTime viewing. I’ve had to resort to posting a note through a door today asking if the vendor could contact me - it’s been on the market for a while (considering the booming market) and has been reduced by £75k so far.
They have been probably instructed by the vendor. Last time, I've instructed agents to arrange viewings only for potential buyers with min. 50% deposit, and ready to go (no chain). It annoys a few a potential buyers first, works like a charm later TBH.
It's also very understandable if the vendor has been put through the mill in the past by time waster or - worse - people who failed to complete.

Octoposse

2,158 posts

185 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Petrus1983 said:
Even 2 miles is great. I thought Bath was my forever home - but it’s 2 hours from my boat in Weymouth so I’m moving myself and the boat closer to the water - hopefully much closer.
Dorchester’s lovely, although I bet there are the same problems of bare shelves in the local estate agents that we’re noticing further down the coast. We’re probably staying put - no point cashing in on the “race for space” unless there’s something better to move to!

Portland? Strange place, but you used to be able to pick up superb stone houses with the best views in England for peanuts! Some nice bits to Weymouth as well.

C70R

17,596 posts

104 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Blown2CV said:
Petrus1983 said:
I’m finding it impossible to view properties - the agents won’t allow me to view a certain property until I’ve accepted an offer on my place. They’re saying it’s because of Covid restrictions but I’m calling bs on that as they won’t even do a FaceTime viewing. I’ve had to resort to posting a note through a door today asking if the vendor could contact me - it’s been on the market for a while (considering the booming market) and has been reduced by £75k so far.
you're not proceedable. This isn't a COVID thing it's a been the case forever thing.
This. Our offer was accepted on our second home a few months back in spite of 20+ viewings, because we were the only chain-free buyers.

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

40 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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We've just been told that our buyers, who started off as "cash" haven't got a building regs certificate for the work they've done in the house they need to sell.

So more or less back to square one.

essayer

9,065 posts

194 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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I wonder what percentage of people who say they are "cash" buyers are actually sat there with £x00,000 in the bank



Petrus1983

8,704 posts

162 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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ooid said:
They have been probably instructed by the vendor. Last time, I've instructed agents to arrange viewings only for potential buyers with min. 50% deposit, and ready to go (no chain). It annoys a few a potential buyers first, works like a charm later TBH.
I managed to see one property by being at the right place at the right time and the vendor - again who’d been on the market for ages - had no idea that that was the estate agents rules. She happily let me in herself.