Is anyone moving now?

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Blown2CV

28,807 posts

203 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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we've just had an offer accepted on a place, and almost feels too good to be true because our offer was 10k UNDER asking price. One case isn't statistically significant sample however... but it could be that things are turning a bit.

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Blown2CV said:
we've just had an offer accepted on a place, and almost feels too good to be true because our offer was 10k UNDER asking price. One case isn't statistically significant sample however... but it could be that things are turning a bit.
Made an (asking price) offer on a place today - between us and another party - given the (lack of material) chain and being 4 weeks into or sale already (committed to breaking) we're the recommended purchaser - should find out tomorrow!

Fast Bug

11,678 posts

161 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Blown2CV said:
we've just had an offer accepted on a place, and almost feels too good to be true because our offer was 10k UNDER asking price. One case isn't statistically significant sample however... but it could be that things are turning a bit.
We got £35k off the price of ours this year. I do think it was overpriced to begin with mind!

Blown2CV

28,807 posts

203 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Fast Bug said:
Blown2CV said:
we've just had an offer accepted on a place, and almost feels too good to be true because our offer was 10k UNDER asking price. One case isn't statistically significant sample however... but it could be that things are turning a bit.
We got £35k off the price of ours this year. I do think it was overpriced to begin with mind!
i mean we could just be in this sort of position potentially, but rather than assume we've been lucky or gamed the system, the natural feeling is that we're idiots and we're about to be shafted by something terrible that we haven't spotted and everyone else has

mikees

2,747 posts

172 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Blown2CV said:
Fast Bug said:
Blown2CV said:
we've just had an offer accepted on a place, and almost feels too good to be true because our offer was 10k UNDER asking price. One case isn't statistically significant sample however... but it could be that things are turning a bit.
We got £35k off the price of ours this year. I do think it was overpriced to begin with mind!
i mean we could just be in this sort of position potentially, but rather than assume we've been lucky or gamed the system, the natural feeling is that we're idiots and we're about to be shafted by something terrible that we haven't spotted and everyone else has
Stick the house up here. The PH detectives will find any issues in short order

ClaphamGT3

11,300 posts

243 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Offer accepted on a place in Hove on Friday. Agreed with the vendor to target completion on 20th August

BertyFish

618 posts

164 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Good luck guysclap

Blown2CV

28,807 posts

203 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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mikees said:
Blown2CV said:
Fast Bug said:
Blown2CV said:
we've just had an offer accepted on a place, and almost feels too good to be true because our offer was 10k UNDER asking price. One case isn't statistically significant sample however... but it could be that things are turning a bit.
We got £35k off the price of ours this year. I do think it was overpriced to begin with mind!
i mean we could just be in this sort of position potentially, but rather than assume we've been lucky or gamed the system, the natural feeling is that we're idiots and we're about to be shafted by something terrible that we haven't spotted and everyone else has
Stick the house up here. The PH detectives will find any issues in short order
seems like a good way to get rapidly outbid smile

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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ClaphamGT3 said:
Offer accepted on a place in Hove on Friday. Agreed with the vendor to target completion on 20th August
Well played

greggy50

6,168 posts

191 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Well after 5 days on the market we have had an asking price cash offer from someone living in Hong Kong currently.

House has gone up 27% in 20 months and we have spent circa 4-5% of the purchase price on it redocrating and changing the flooring etc.

We are still waiting to hear back from a few other viewings yet as we had another 5 today so it may even go to sealed bids if we are lucky.

I think we may rent a bit until things calm down.

Edited by greggy50 on Monday 5th July 21:17

Blown2CV

28,807 posts

203 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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greggy50 said:
Well after 5 days on the market we have had an asking price cash offer from someone living in Hong Kong currently.

House has gone up 27% in 20 months and we have spent circa 4-5% of the purchase price on it redocrating and changing the flooring etc.

We are still waiting to hear back from a few other viewings yet as we had another 5 today so it may even go to sealed bids if we are lucky.

I think we may rent a bit until things calm down.

Edited by greggy50 on Monday 5th July 21:17
this is the issue mate tbh. It may not calm down. I am not trying to panic you, but it's 10x easier to sell right now, but then 10x more difficult/challenging to buy. So, you've done the easy, happy bit.

greggy50

6,168 posts

191 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Blown2CV said:
greggy50 said:
Well after 5 days on the market we have had an asking price cash offer from someone living in Hong Kong currently.

House has gone up 27% in 20 months and we have spent circa 4-5% of the purchase price on it redocrating and changing the flooring etc.

We are still waiting to hear back from a few other viewings yet as we had another 5 today so it may even go to sealed bids if we are lucky.

I think we may rent a bit until things calm down.

Edited by greggy50 on Monday 5th July 21:17
this is the issue mate tbh. It may not calm down. I am not trying to panic you, but it's 10x easier to sell right now, but then 10x more difficult/challenging to buy. So, you've done the easy, happy bit.
Yes I know, I think % wise we are still ahead and would say in the same period 15%-20% is more the norm around here (Chester) so I don't think its a bad move per say.

230 - 295k (potentially more) in 20 months basically is a great result for us and as we only stuck 5% deposit down at the time we can move up a house and not pay much more a month due to current mortgage rates.

I do think after Xmas prices and the market may settle and unless the right house comes up we are happy to wait. I won't be paying over the market rate just to save a bit of stamp duty...

Edited by greggy50 on Monday 5th July 21:27

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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A few years renting.

So let’s guess £15k a year rent so £30k spent.
Plus maybe storage costs for all your clobber

Plus your gambling your home on this……..

Also if there is a “crash” people simply sit on their house. It’s only those who have to sell (divorce /relocation/loss of income) - we saw it all before in 2008-2012 supply nada no one listed (or at least in my area of interest) instead same old stock hanging around nothing coming on.

Maybe it will be different. But given so many houses are owned outright or with tiny mortgages or no need to sell individuals opportunity might not be as big as those who want a proce fall want/expect.

greggy50

6,168 posts

191 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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All I would expect is houses to go for asking price and not over rather than a "crash" per say.

People just appear to be panic buying anything at the moment and paying well over what something is work. At our end of the market £350-450k I honestly thing some are determined to get the cheaper stamp duty for some reason even now. I could understand when it was free but to just save £3k or whatever seems silly.

Just because the supply is limited doesn't mean you should just buy the first thing you see...

Frik

13,542 posts

243 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Might be worth having a good look at the rental market before you make a decision. Round here it's not easy to find a property to rent either.

greggy50

6,168 posts

191 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Frik said:
Might be worth having a good look at the rental market before you make a decision. Round here it's not easy to find a property to rent either.
They are plenty for our budget, we will live with a friend for a couple of months if necessary.

We have no chance getting the money we can atm for this house. It was on the market 8 months before we purchased it.

PiesAreGreat

159 posts

40 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Welshbeef said:
anonymous said:
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Also if there is a “crash” people simply sit on their house. It’s only those who have to sell (divorce /relocation/loss of income) - we saw it all before in 2008-2012 supply nada no one listed (or at least in my area of interest) instead same old stock hanging around nothing coming on.

Maybe it will be different. But given so many houses are owned outright or with tiny mortgages or no need to sell individuals opportunity might not be as big as those who want a price fall want/expect.
In the last crash I only know one person who didn't get one with their life when the crash happened; one bloke who kept asking the same ridiculously high price for years on end (his wife did get on with her life; she left him and the kids went with her) who sat in their house pretending it wasn't happening? Everyone moved house when they wanted a bigger house, job changes, family changes, etc as normal (but there was a lot less speculative activity then, so it could be worse as speculators pull out), but then during the early 90s crash inflation was relatively high, so the real loss in value was hidden. In the Financial crisis the government provided unprecedented support to a market that should have been allowed to correct (they should have managed it down).

Round here I am seeing a lot of the houses that have been sat empty for years (5 bed houses, just left after the owners died so the family were just riding the bubble), they all mostly getting dressed up for sale (the first "sold" sign went up about 2 weeks ago), as are the recently inherited houses previously owned by those who died of covid, or old age (four houses within 200 meters of me eek)

Sheepshanks

32,750 posts

119 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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PiesAreGreat said:
Round here I am seeing a lot of the houses that have been sat empty for years (5 bed houses, just left after the owners died so the family were just riding the bubble), they all mostly getting dressed up for sale (the first "sold" sign went up about 2 weeks ago), as are the recently inherited houses previously owned by those who died of covid, or old age (four houses within 200 meters of me eek)
Where abouts is that happening? I’m aware of one house just sitting there but I believe probate is proving complicated. Everything else seems to come to market smartly. Leaving it until now seems a risky strategy.

LooneyTunes

6,844 posts

158 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Welshbeef said:
anonymous said:
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A few years renting.

So let’s guess £15k a year rent so £30k spent.
Plus maybe storage costs for all your clobber

Plus your gambling your home on this……..

Also if there is a “crash” people simply sit on their house. It’s only those who have to sell (divorce /relocation/loss of income) - we saw it all before in 2008-2012 supply nada no one listed (or at least in my area of interest) instead same old stock hanging around nothing coming on.

Maybe it will be different. But given so many houses are owned outright or with tiny mortgages or no need to sell individuals opportunity might not be as big as those who want a proce fall want/expect.
Also 1988 had double digit interest rate environment... at present there is still an ongoing flow of money into the property market, even following the step down in sdlt rate relief, because there are few other places to put it. With inflation increasing, hard assets are especially attractive if you don’t want too much exposure to equities markets or expect to see it erode debt.

The interesting thing for me is that vendors and agents seem more jittery at the bottom end of the market than higher up and I’ve seen more in the past couple of weeks where there’s a deal to be done (usually probate, where a vendor has been messed around, or the vendor understands there’s work needed that is hard to price/schedule with the building market busy) than there were say six weeks ago. Also an increasing number of properties being reduced on rightmove (usually where they weren’t well presented, are in that tricky zone of being neither recently improved or bad enough to merit refurb, or were a bit ambitiously priced).

I can see the sense in sitting it out for a while and seeing if it cools a bit but if wanting to buy somewhere to live longterm I’m not sure I’d want to bet on it becoming too much of a buyer’s market with prices in free fall.

SweptVolume

1,091 posts

93 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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greggy50 said:
Well after 5 days on the market we have had an asking price cash offer from someone living in Hong Kong currently.

House has gone up 27% in 20 months and we have spent circa 4-5% of the purchase price on it redocrating and changing the flooring etc.

We are still waiting to hear back from a few other viewings yet as we had another 5 today so it may even go to sealed bids if we are lucky.

I think we may rent a bit until things calm down.

Edited by greggy50 on Monday 5th July 21:17
Hmm. Ours went up on Friday, so nearly as long as yours, but not a jot of interest so far. It's a 1 bed detached former chapel, so it's pretty niche, and as the asking price is...ambitious, shall we say. I'd feel more comfortable that we're not wasting our time once we have at least one viewing.