Fitted Air conditioning

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JustADay

196 posts

126 months

Saturday 5th June 2021
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LocoBlade said:
I see that Cooleasy mentioned in this thread sell a 3.5kw easy fit Comfee unit for £500 and offer a commissioning service for £300 (they cover our area in Hants) which being less than half the cost of their install service I assume means I'd sort out the physical install mounting the units etc and they'd come in, check it over and connect up the gas pipework? Going this route works out under half the cost of the Daikin, so accepting the Daikin is probably a better quality unit and I'll have to do some donkey work it still seems a no brainer unless I'm missing something?
This is exactly what I did a few weeks ago. I went for the following model as the power is run to the internal unit which was easier for my installation:

https://www.cooleasy.co.uk/categories/easy-fit-air...

The Comfee range require power to the outside unit instead.

Cooleasy put me in touch with a local supplier who came and did the commissioning once I’d installed the unit. The guy checked the installation over, connected the outdoor end of the pipes and tidied them up, then did a pressure test, released the gas and provided an installation certificate so that I could activate the warranty. To be honest there wasn’t really anything he did that I couldn’t have, however given this was the first time I’ve installed one of these it was good to have it checked over.

I completely understand why people do the entire installation themselves, I think I could have too, but this approach gave a good compromise of a lower cost along with making sure I’d not messed anything up! The lowest price I’d had for having the whole thing installed was over £2k for a lower powered model so this was definitely a big saving.

LocoBlade

7,622 posts

256 months

Saturday 5th June 2021
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Thanks all, looks like that's the way to go then.

JustADay, good to know your experience is exactly what I envisaged, I didn't look too closely at the different models they sell but good point about the wiring requirements of the Comfee, it also only comes with 3m of hose compared to 4m on the other you bought.

Also although the quote we had specced a 3.5kw unit that size seems to be marginal for a 30sqm room especially one that's detached from the house on its own so I may go for a larger 5kw unit as well.

JustADay said:
This is exactly what I did a few weeks ago. I went for the following model as the power is run to the internal unit which was easier for my installation:

https://www.cooleasy.co.uk/categories/easy-fit-air...

The Comfee range require power to the outside unit instead.

Cooleasy put me in touch with a local supplier who came and did the commissioning once I’d installed the unit. The guy checked the installation over, connected the outdoor end of the pipes and tidied them up, then did a pressure test, released the gas and provided an installation certificate so that I could activate the warranty. To be honest there wasn’t really anything he did that I couldn’t have, however given this was the first time I’ve installed one of these it was good to have it checked over.

I completely understand why people do the entire installation themselves, I think I could have too, but this approach gave a good compromise of a lower cost along with making sure I’d not messed anything up! The lowest price I’d had for having the whole thing installed was over £2k for a lower powered model so this was definitely a big saving.

eliot

11,428 posts

254 months

Saturday 5th June 2021
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JustADay said:
This is exactly what I did a few weeks ago. I went for the following model as the power is run to the internal unit which was easier for my installation:

https://www.cooleasy.co.uk/categories/easy-fit-air...

The Comfee range require power to the outside unit instead.

Cooleasy put me in touch with a local supplier who came and did the commissioning once I’d installed the unit. The guy checked the installation over, connected the outdoor end of the pipes and tidied them up, then did a pressure test, released the gas and provided an installation certificate so that I could activate the warranty. To be honest there wasn’t really anything he did that I couldn’t have, however given this was the first time I’ve installed one of these it was good to have it checked over.

I completely understand why people do the entire installation themselves, I think I could have too, but this approach gave a good compromise of a lower cost along with making sure I’d not messed anything up! The lowest price I’d had for having the whole thing installed was over £2k for a lower powered model so this was definitely a big saving.
How much did the commissioning engineer cost?

LocoBlade

7,622 posts

256 months

Saturday 5th June 2021
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Cooleasy say £250+VAT for commissioning

scottyp123

3,881 posts

56 months

Saturday 5th June 2021
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Got a reply from me E-mail surprisingly.

It is new regulations that have come into force

We cannot despatch air con units without the F Gas installers details

Kind regards,

Alex

Senior Sales Advisor

JustADay

196 posts

126 months

Saturday 5th June 2021
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eliot said:
How much did the commissioning engineer cost?
Yup, as above, £250. I got the impression that the amount they charge is dependant on the individual fitter and how much work you do yourself, i.e. if you put all the pipes in yourself so they don’t need to lift the indoor unit off the wall it saves a bit of time/cost.

LocoBlade

7,622 posts

256 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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JustADay said:
This is exactly what I did a few weeks ago. I went for the following model as the power is run to the internal unit which was easier for my installation:

https://www.cooleasy.co.uk/categories/easy-fit-air...
What's the WiFi solution like on this, is the app any good? Also does it need a dedicated electrical supply or does it plug in to a socket?


Edited by LocoBlade on Sunday 6th June 10:53

JustADay

196 posts

126 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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LocoBlade said:
What's the WiFi solution like on this, is the app any good? Also does it need a dedicated electrical supply or does it plug in to a socket?


Edited by LocoBlade on Sunday 6th June 10:53
To be honest I haven’t tried the WiFi, there is an app available however the manual also says it works with Google Home and Alexa so that’s probably an easier way.

The indoor unit came with a standard 3 core connection but without a plug, wires only. I wired it to a switched fused spur, however I don’t see why you couldn’t put a plug on the end as even at full load it only takes about 7A.

fastbikes76

2,450 posts

122 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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I have the app on my ElectriX 3 way split and it’s brilliant. I can turn the AC on/off and control temp etc from anywhere at all. Never dropped out and never failed yet. I did find a trick to seeing what the actual room temp was which they don’t usually show. If i just select ‘Fan’ mode it shows the room temp, so you can decide if you want to turn ac on remotely or not.


LocoBlade

7,622 posts

256 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Cheers both. We've used Google Home routines before so that sounds like a way forward if the wife doesn't like the app for some reason.

Edited by LocoBlade on Sunday 6th June 12:51

Tlandcruiser

2,788 posts

198 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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How much do they cost to have regassed with R32?

Cold Turkey chic

5,245 posts

120 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Tlandcruiser said:
How much do they cost to have regassed with R32?
That depends on why it degassed itself...

Tlandcruiser

2,788 posts

198 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Cold Turkey chic said:
That depends on why it degassed itself...
If a pipe is split from building work or something similar

Cold Turkey chic

5,245 posts

120 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Tlandcruiser said:
If a pipe is split from building work or something similar
You'll need an F-gas fitter which will be £300 up to start with, then add costs for any pipework he replaces, then add more for the gas (multi split or single unit?), then add more because it's summer and everyone suddenly wants air con. If it's a cheapie and you are DIY capable it might be cheaper to replace it with another cheapie.

Cleverley

42 posts

34 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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A local to you ac engineer shouldn’t cost nowhere near £300 to repair a unit, if it was a simple pipe split/damage

Call out, pressure test,repair,re test, vac out and re gas R410 or R32. Easy job and £250 plus vat is only for London I would of thought.

Back on the smack chic

5,245 posts

120 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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I'm far from London and far from London pricing, and you wouldn't get me coming near it for less than £300 in June!

Cleverley

42 posts

34 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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We are busy all year summer just gets a bit dafter - our rates are not seasonal. We charge a fair amount for a fair job.

Back on the smack chic

5,245 posts

120 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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You're missing out on about 50% of your profit, then.

Cleverley

42 posts

34 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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We manage to survive….ac is approx 3% of our business. After 30 years being a fridge man 17 working for myself, we leave the new ones in the race to the bottom that has always been ac. You don’t get many 225 kw chillers off eBay. We like to stick with the bigger fridge kit. We have always found this a more niche and profitable market. Each to their own.

I have Daikin AC at home - it’s good,
heats up quicker than gas powered under floor heating in winter, is more manageable than our log burner. Also keeps the bedrooms cool in “summer”. The UK is not really into home ac yet and even at high COPs most people don’t really understand the advantages.


Back on the smack chic

5,245 posts

120 months

Sunday 6th June 2021
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Cleverley said:
The UK is not really into home ac yet
Are you living in the same UK as I am? rolleyes