Tenant broken boiler, refusing me access to check it
Discussion
TheBinarySheep said:
Matt_E_Mulsion said:
Get round there and kick her and her worldly goods out onto the streets.
I wish I could, but the government have got so much protection in place for tenants that landlords have their hands tied behind their backs.
Simpo Two said:
Yes but you have to star the process or you'll just lose even more money. IIRC once they're two months in arrears you can start action. Section 8 or 22, not sure which. If they're on HB you can apply to the Council to get it paid straight to you (at least you could when I had a go at being a landlord 10 years ago). Good luck.
It was 2 month, but since Covid they have to be 6 month in arrears before you can start the process."We have made regulations extending the provisions of the Coronavirus Act 2020, meaning that from 29 August 2020 landlords will not be able to start possession proceedings in most circumstances unless they have given their tenants six months’ notice. Shorter notice periods will apply to certain cases where the landlord wants to evict the tenant because of rent arrears of 6 months or more, anti-social behaviour, domestic abuse or false statement. "
We used to get the rent paid directly to us, but we think they've stopped it so that they get the rent.
98elise said:
As a Landlord I would insist I get a chance to look at it first. The tenant can't pick and choose who does the repair.
Also ask the same question on Landlordzone which is a great resource for legal issues etc.
If she's 5 months behind already then start the eviction process as soon as you can.
Yes this.Also ask the same question on Landlordzone which is a great resource for legal issues etc.
If she's 5 months behind already then start the eviction process as soon as you can.
I would just turn up and explain you are not able to get an engineer at the moment and you can check.
Depending on your tenancy agreement most enforce a visit within 24hr notice so give them 24hr notice
You are 5 months in arrears so you need to be firm but fair and most importantly legal.
TheBinarySheep said:
It was 2 month, but since Covid they have to be 6 month in arrears before you can start the process.
Fair enough, one month to go then.TheBinarySheep said:
We used to get the rent paid directly to us, but we think they've stopped it so that they get the rent.
Who stopped it, the Council? Ask if you can apply again. You need the money to buy them a new boiler...And you can say 'Sorry I can't afford to replace the boiler because you haven't paid the rent'. They will now say they won't pay you rent because the boiler's broken.
When you get out of this, sell the house and invest the cash. It's much easier!
I've politely replied saying
"Do you want to do some tidying up this evening and I'll pop down to check the boiler in the morning?"
No doubt she's going to kick off and say she needs it fixing this evening, but on point of principle I'm not going to arrange anyone until tomorrow. I have 24 hours, so she can wait 24 hours.
"Do you want to do some tidying up this evening and I'll pop down to check the boiler in the morning?"
No doubt she's going to kick off and say she needs it fixing this evening, but on point of principle I'm not going to arrange anyone until tomorrow. I have 24 hours, so she can wait 24 hours.
I believe if the rent arrears is more than a certain period you don't have to give the 6 months notice, yep looks like only 4 weeks https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/evic...
Have you had a read of https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/62... over on MSE as some recommendations may be relevant but the key point is the rent arrears and boiler being broken are separate issues so you can't refuse to fix the boiler because they are in arrears as much as you wish you could (& others will try to encourage you down this path as morally it seems reasonable)
It might be the above or another thread i've read recently but if you had housing benefits being paid directly to you and it now isn't they have likely changed from a joint to single claim which resets it so you need to apply to have it paid direct again, get on it.
I feel for your plight, a friend is trying to remove a joint tenant who remained after notice had been given by the other, council aren't interested in housing her & 2 kids till a possession order is granted and the court adjourned the case review that could have granted possession for apparently no reason. She needs to move back in & in the mean time is having to pay out to rent somewhere else, its destroying her mental health. She only rented the place out as a last resort as she had relocated (which subsequently didn't work out) and had a sale fall through twice. & also had the boiler break just before christmas so they had to survive for ~10 days until a new boiler got fitted (yes I agree thats insanely quick)
eta: get your paperwork/communications in order that you have made reasonable efforts to carry out the gas safety certificate, it may not help but again check it in relation to covid mucking stuff up for renewals (hopefully you had one at the beginning of the tenancy)
Have you had a read of https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/62... over on MSE as some recommendations may be relevant but the key point is the rent arrears and boiler being broken are separate issues so you can't refuse to fix the boiler because they are in arrears as much as you wish you could (& others will try to encourage you down this path as morally it seems reasonable)
It might be the above or another thread i've read recently but if you had housing benefits being paid directly to you and it now isn't they have likely changed from a joint to single claim which resets it so you need to apply to have it paid direct again, get on it.
I feel for your plight, a friend is trying to remove a joint tenant who remained after notice had been given by the other, council aren't interested in housing her & 2 kids till a possession order is granted and the court adjourned the case review that could have granted possession for apparently no reason. She needs to move back in & in the mean time is having to pay out to rent somewhere else, its destroying her mental health. She only rented the place out as a last resort as she had relocated (which subsequently didn't work out) and had a sale fall through twice. & also had the boiler break just before christmas so they had to survive for ~10 days until a new boiler got fitted (yes I agree thats insanely quick)
eta: get your paperwork/communications in order that you have made reasonable efforts to carry out the gas safety certificate, it may not help but again check it in relation to covid mucking stuff up for renewals (hopefully you had one at the beginning of the tenancy)
Edited by trixical on Saturday 9th January 18:00
Edited by trixical on Saturday 9th January 18:02
t is beyond me. All credit to you, I'd probably be arrested for instructing some Albanian heavies to drag them out by their tracky bottoms. TheBinarySheep said:
Turn7 said:
Hi Tenant
The Engineer cant get there till Tuesday.
Let me know if you get cold enough to tidy up and I'll pop over.....
I seriously could not be a landlord.
The problem with that is I gather we have to fix something like this within 24 hours.The Engineer cant get there till Tuesday.
Let me know if you get cold enough to tidy up and I'll pop over.....
I seriously could not be a landlord.
TheBinarySheep said:
I've politely replied saying
"Do you want to do some tidying up this evening and I'll pop down to check the boiler in the morning?"
No doubt she's going to kick off and say she needs it fixing this evening, but on point of principle I'm not going to arrange anyone until tomorrow. I have 24 hours, so she can wait 24 hours.
Is there a law for 24hr boiler?"Do you want to do some tidying up this evening and I'll pop down to check the boiler in the morning?"
No doubt she's going to kick off and say she needs it fixing this evening, but on point of principle I'm not going to arrange anyone until tomorrow. I have 24 hours, so she can wait 24 hours.
When I was renting we had a boiler fault and it was several days before anyone came.
Certainly significantly longer than 24 Hrs.
We had no hot water and it was middle of Summer so managing without a shower for a couple of days was not very hygienic.
trixical said:
I believe if the rent arrears is more than a certain period you don't have to give the 6 months notice, yep looks like only 4 weeks https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/evic...
Have you had a read of https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/62... over on MSE as some recommendations may be relevant but the key point is the rent arrears and boiler being broken are separate issues so you can't refuse to fix the boiler because they are in arrears as much as you wish you could (& others will try to encourage you down this path as morally it seems reasonable)
It might be the above or another thread i've read recently but if you had housing benefits being paid directly to you and it now isn't they have likely changed from a joint to single claim which resets it so you need to apply to have it paid direct again, get on it.
I feel for your plight, a friend is trying to remove a joint tenant who remained after notice had been given by the other, council aren't interested in housing her & 2 kids till a possession order is granted and the court adjourned the case review that could have granted possession for apparently no reason. She needs to move back in & in the mean time is having to pay out to rent somewhere else, its destroying her mental health. She only rented the place out as a last resort as she had relocated (which subsequently didn't work out) and had a sale fall through twice.
Sadly a section 8 required 6 month notice if less than 6 month in arrears. It's all changed since Covid https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-1... See the section under 'Minimum notice period lengths under Section 8 of the Housing Act 1988'Have you had a read of https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/62... over on MSE as some recommendations may be relevant but the key point is the rent arrears and boiler being broken are separate issues so you can't refuse to fix the boiler because they are in arrears as much as you wish you could (& others will try to encourage you down this path as morally it seems reasonable)
It might be the above or another thread i've read recently but if you had housing benefits being paid directly to you and it now isn't they have likely changed from a joint to single claim which resets it so you need to apply to have it paid direct again, get on it.
I feel for your plight, a friend is trying to remove a joint tenant who remained after notice had been given by the other, council aren't interested in housing her & 2 kids till a possession order is granted and the court adjourned the case review that could have granted possession for apparently no reason. She needs to move back in & in the mean time is having to pay out to rent somewhere else, its destroying her mental health. She only rented the place out as a last resort as she had relocated (which subsequently didn't work out) and had a sale fall through twice.
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