Wood Burners and Installation
Discussion
Lotobear said:
the issue was corrected but by then the damage was done - fortunately the occupant was not killed by CO but the stove had been venting straight into the loft unknown for months - smoke leaking out of the tiles externally eventually gave the game away.
..HETAS installer and signed off, so no guarantee of non cowboy activity.
I'm tasked with sorting it all out.
Interested in why the roof needs replacing once the flue is sorted?..HETAS installer and signed off, so no guarantee of non cowboy activity.
I'm tasked with sorting it all out.
Gixer968CS said:
I had a stove installed a year ago. It's free standing, on a (glass) harth with a flue directly off the top and up through a flat roof with about a 6foot chimney on top. It was installed by a local specialist, obviously in-line with all the required regs and with a certificate for if we want to sell the house. Total cost of installation was c£7k but I was quoted way more by others. The flue was a significant cost.
As for logs, I pay £150 for a meter square bag of very good quality kiln dried logs. They'll last a few months of mainly weekend usage. They burn slowly and warmly but if your were to use is as a main source of heat it would be significantly more expensive than gas and lot more of a faff.
We absolutely love our stove and believe it to be worth every penny we spent.
Similar to mine although ours was a bit less, around 4.5k total of which about 1.5k was the stove and the rest was the install, which involved running a new flue up a pre-existing chimney, adding an extra air intake on the outside wall behind the fire and some brick work repair in the fireplace itself.As for logs, I pay £150 for a meter square bag of very good quality kiln dried logs. They'll last a few months of mainly weekend usage. They burn slowly and warmly but if your were to use is as a main source of heat it would be significantly more expensive than gas and lot more of a faff.
We absolutely love our stove and believe it to be worth every penny we spent.
We pay similar for kiln dried logs, but having come from an open fire the amount we have saved through only needing 2-3 logs per fire rather than a whole basket full is probably quite substantial; a single m^3 bag will last a season and a half now if not more. Plus our primary heat source is LPG so probably a saving there too!
Definitely a luxury worth spending on if you can make it work. Just so nice to relax in front of a cosy fire and I dare say the dog is its biggest fan!
sam greenock said:
We went for the full kebab shop look like this, with shiny metallic chimney instead of the more subtle matt black, think some of our "fur coat - nae knickers" neighbours were horrified, but it was worth it to see them pearl clutching.
It cost us about £4500 all in, including fire at £2500 in 2017
Is this the WEEGIE solution? Good work.It cost us about £4500 all in, including fire at £2500 in 2017
dickymint said:
You can do all the work yourself and local Building Control can sign it off......notify them before you start the work.
Isn't this PHs where an income of £100k is considered the breadline 
. It took two guys with all gear and all the ideas a whole day to get our installed, that didn't include two site visit they did beforehand. Why would you even attempt to DIY this when the trades literally do it for a living?The amount of kit they guys used/needed aside from the stove was quite surprising!
Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 30th November 05:30
curvature said:
Don't buy a cheap stove / woodburner as you will regret it.
When we built our extension I was starting to run out of cash so got one from a company online called Modern Stoves. I visited their premises up in Cheshire and was initially happy with it. However after a couple of years the plate steel door bowed and we had to replace it. Our replacement unit still uses plate steel but has a cast iron door.
The new stove was four times the price (HWAM 2640c) but you just cannot compare them. It burns so much better and once up to temperature will run all day long without any issues. The glass just needs a dry wipe down between burns.
You could potentially install it yourself but you will struggle to get anyone to sign it off. Depending on where you live you may find a registered installer who just makes a living out of the installation but based on that example above you do need to ensure you get a decent installer.
Just to echo this - all stoves are very much not equal. There's a very handy channel on youTube I've linked below where a chap installs and uses multiple stoves in his home to allow a decent review, I'd suggest watching that carefully, working out what you want from a stove and then choosing something he recommends. Realistically I'd say you need to be paying at least £1200 for a 5 to 8 kw stove to be in the 'good quality' region.When we built our extension I was starting to run out of cash so got one from a company online called Modern Stoves. I visited their premises up in Cheshire and was initially happy with it. However after a couple of years the plate steel door bowed and we had to replace it. Our replacement unit still uses plate steel but has a cast iron door.
The new stove was four times the price (HWAM 2640c) but you just cannot compare them. It burns so much better and once up to temperature will run all day long without any issues. The glass just needs a dry wipe down between burns.
You could potentially install it yourself but you will struggle to get anyone to sign it off. Depending on where you live you may find a registered installer who just makes a living out of the installation but based on that example above you do need to ensure you get a decent installer.
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheTortoise
GasEngineer said:
Lotobear said:
the issue was corrected but by then the damage was done - fortunately the occupant was not killed by CO but the stove had been venting straight into the loft unknown for months - smoke leaking out of the tiles externally eventually gave the game away.
..HETAS installer and signed off, so no guarantee of non cowboy activity.
I'm tasked with sorting it all out.
Interested in why the roof needs replacing once the flue is sorted?..HETAS installer and signed off, so no guarantee of non cowboy activity.
I'm tasked with sorting it all out.
Edited by Lotobear on Saturday 30th November 09:40
gangzoom said:
Isn't this PHs where an income of £100k is considered the breadline . It took two guys with all gear and all the ideas a whole day to get our installed, that didn't include two site visit they did beforehand. Why would you even attempt to DIY this when the trades literally do it for a living?
The amount of kit they guys used/needed aside from the stove was quite surprising!
[Img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53736124747_01de97a422_c_d.jpg[/thumb]
From your post I’m guessing you have never installed a flue before ? . It took two guys with all gear and all the ideas a whole day to get our installed, that didn't include two site visit they did beforehand. Why would you even attempt to DIY this when the trades literally do it for a living?The amount of kit they guys used/needed aside from the stove was quite surprising!
[Img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53736124747_01de97a422_c_d.jpg[/thumb]
Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 30th November 05:30
Installing flues is a very simple job , twin wall is even easier, Anybody who can read regulations online and push pipes together can do it ……it’s basic diy level.
gangzoom said:
Ours was an absolute pain to install, added probably nearly 4 weeks of delay into the build. The builder kept on trying to get us to forget it and get gas/electric instead.
Total cost was about £4.5K with the stove, only been used once since we moved in September, absolute luxury, worth every penny if you can afford it.
Why have you pushed it right back into the fireplace?Total cost was about £4.5K with the stove, only been used once since we moved in September, absolute luxury, worth every penny if you can afford it.
romft123 said:
gangzoom said:
Ours was an absolute pain to install, added probably nearly 4 weeks of delay into the build. The builder kept on trying to get us to forget it and get gas/electric instead.
Total cost was about £4.5K with the stove, only been used once since we moved in September, absolute luxury, worth every penny if you can afford it.
Why have you pushed it right back into the fireplace?Total cost was about £4.5K with the stove, only been used once since we moved in September, absolute luxury, worth every penny if you can afford it.
Chumley.mouse said:
gangzoom said:
Isn't this PHs where an income of £100k is considered the breadline . It took two guys with all gear and all the ideas a whole day to get our installed, that didn't include two site visit they did beforehand. Why would you even attempt to DIY this when the trades literally do it for a living?
The amount of kit they guys used/needed aside from the stove was quite surprising!
[Img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53736124747_01de97a422_c_d.jpg[/thumb]
From your post I’m guessing you have never installed a flue before ? . It took two guys with all gear and all the ideas a whole day to get our installed, that didn't include two site visit they did beforehand. Why would you even attempt to DIY this when the trades literally do it for a living?The amount of kit they guys used/needed aside from the stove was quite surprising!
[Img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53736124747_01de97a422_c_d.jpg[/thumb]
Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 30th November 05:30
Installing flues is a very simple job , twin wall is even easier, Anybody who can read regulations online and push pipes together can do it ……it’s basic diy level.
dickymint said:
It really is simple and as far as the regs go a decent Building Control Inspector will help you through it. Easily a thousand pound saving on the job.
Guess it depends on what you dune as easy and what £1k means to you, I was hoping to pick up a 'bargain' robovacume thing this BlackFriday, but it seems £1k on vacume these days is acceptable .My personal DIY skill stop at drilling holes for hanging pictures.
dickymint said:
romft123 said:
gangzoom said:
Ours was an absolute pain to install, added probably nearly 4 weeks of delay into the build. The builder kept on trying to get us to forget it and get gas/electric instead.
Total cost was about £4.5K with the stove, only been used once since we moved in September, absolute luxury, worth every penny if you can afford it.
Why have you pushed it right back into the fireplace?Total cost was about £4.5K with the stove, only been used once since we moved in September, absolute luxury, worth every penny if you can afford it.
romft123 said:
dickymint said:
romft123 said:
gangzoom said:
Ours was an absolute pain to install, added probably nearly 4 weeks of delay into the build. The builder kept on trying to get us to forget it and get gas/electric instead.
Total cost was about £4.5K with the stove, only been used once since we moved in September, absolute luxury, worth every penny if you can afford it.
Why have you pushed it right back into the fireplace?Total cost was about £4.5K with the stove, only been used once since we moved in September, absolute luxury, worth every penny if you can afford it.
loskie said:
sam greenock said:
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