Skiing 24-25 Season who/where/when?

Skiing 24-25 Season who/where/when?

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//j17

4,653 posts

234 months

Thursday 13th March
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BlackTails said:
And notwithstanding N Americans heading to Europe to ski, skiing, staying and eating in mainstream European resorts is expensive (N Ams are not heading to Bulgaria to ski, I imagine).
I do a lot of trips with a solo skier company and for the last 5 or so years finding an American in the chalet the same week has gone from an unknown to a 50% chance and "So how are you finding things compare here to the US?" usually comes up at dinner in the second half of the week. Answers on costs, all in including flights/lift passes/food and drink/kit hire can be summerised as between "It's going to cost the same as a week in the US" and "It's going to work out cheaper than a week in the US". Food wise the general view is they pay about the same amount but get much more. For the cost of a sad looking burger/fries/drink that leaves them wondering where the change is in the US they'll be getting something fresh, tasty, and Insa-worthy, with a drink, and a coffee in Europe that feels like good value "for being at the top of a mountain".

Obviously these are people who aren't 'local' so only get 1 week skiing each year so don't benefit from season pass savings, etc and are looking at flights to get to the snow at home so not saving as much on travel either.

timlongs

1,782 posts

190 months

Thursday 13th March
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//j17 said:
timlongs said:
prand said:
Amateurish said:
A Portes du Soleil season pass is €685 (£580) if you buy in April. Plus you get 10% off if you bought one the previous year.

That includes 5 days in the 4 Vallées.
Yes, it's very good value if you can get there regularly, 2 weeks is enough to break even.

What concerns me if Operators in the Alps decide to follow suit (or operating costs trying to manage dwindling snow cover and building new lifts to extend or enhance ski areas) pushes lift pass prices up, on the basis that "US Market can handle it". (Well obviously it can't if it's driving people to fly across the Atlantic to go skiing).

However I hope that the way resort ski operation are owned and managed will prevent this.
I wonder how long it is until a French mega resort is bought by Vail or someone similar. Tignes has taken back control to run as an 'independent' resort from 2026 I believe, and there are rumours of mega US investment. La Plagne is also apparently up for sale...
At a guess "quite a long time" as ownership of a mountain nobody had considered owning until c.1880 is a lot easier than one under different ownership/occupation/usage since at least 3300BCE. As an example just the Morzine-Les Gets section of the PdS area has land owned by; individual landowners, two different municipalities so mayors (who may or may not like one another at any particular time), and the prefecture or nation.
I'd guess less time, by resort I mean the lift management company and everything that comes with that. But thanks for explaining to me how France works.

The_Doc

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5,338 posts

231 months

Thursday 13th March
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PushedDover said:
Last minute plans to join pals at their Chalet in Montriond and ski Morzine area on Monday.
I've not been for 9 years. Anyone care to comment on the state of the slopes at the mo, and trends for snow?
As promised:

"morzinesourcemagazine
As we all know, when @avoriaz1800_officiel announce a PIDA (avalanche prevention trigger), it means they’re expecting BIG things across the ski area overnight. Please dont head into the ski area tomorrow morning until you’re 100% sure it’s safe. Ski lifts may open slightly later, but your wait will be worth it. "

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHG_HWYsgs1/?igsh=M...

Big snow portes du solieil

The_Doc

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5,338 posts

231 months

Thursday 13th March
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Harry Flashman

20,156 posts

253 months

Thursday 13th March
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Good-oh. I'm in the PDS for our usual two weeks at Easter. Any top-ups welcomed!

mikeiow

6,746 posts

141 months

Thursday 13th March
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We’ve had flurries this week in Les Arcs….conditions for spring remarkably good smile
& the beer situation is tolerable….click the pic to spot the table of Pierrots in the background hehe



Lost in the Woods & Cosmic - cheers Tim!

PushedDover

6,411 posts

64 months

Thursday 13th March
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The_Doc said:
PushedDover said:
Last minute plans to join pals at their Chalet in Montriond and ski Morzine area on Monday.
I've not been for 9 years. Anyone care to comment on the state of the slopes at the mo, and trends for snow?
As promised:

"morzinesourcemagazine
As we all know, when @avoriaz1800_officiel announce a PIDA (avalanche prevention trigger), it means they’re expecting BIG things across the ski area overnight. Please dont head into the ski area tomorrow morning until you’re 100% sure it’s safe. Ski lifts may open slightly later, but your wait will be worth it. "

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHG_HWYsgs1/?igsh=M...

Big snow portes du solieil
Appreciation

prand

6,145 posts

207 months

Friday 14th March
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PushedDover said:
Appreciation
If staying in Montriond, i'd be catching the free bus up to the Ardent lift (past the lovely lake) and skiing in the Avoriaz and Chatel/Plaine Drance sectors which is one of my favourite bits too.

Lots of snow now, you've timed it just right!

PushedDover

6,411 posts

64 months

Friday 14th March
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prand said:
PushedDover said:
Appreciation
If staying in Montriond, i'd be catching the free bus up to the Ardent lift (past the lovely lake) and skiing in the Avoriaz and Chatel/Plaine Drance sectors which is one of my favourite bits too.

Lots of snow now, you've timed it just right!
Again thanks.
Its a chap here in the Village with a 10bed place in Montriond suggesting we all head out (hes only just back, but on Monday we go) - looking at the WA chat group, he is militarily planning our excursions and events, and falls in with your suggestions.
I'll tow along (maybe literally as the only 'boarder'), until I dont want to......

It has been 9 years since last doing this, so to be honest as much looking forward to return the awe of the 'experience' - mountains, blue skies, a beer a lunch etc etc as the actual ski/boarding too.

Question remains - can I snowboard as a man in my fifties biggrin

malks222

2,033 posts

150 months

Friday 14th March
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I really didn’t think it would be running this weekend, but looks like cairngorm has caught some snow this week and I’m off for a ‘2 day intro to backcountry/ ski touring’ this weekend.

I managed a 1 day course towards the end of january and really enjoyed it. so looking forward to a full weekend of it.

prand

6,145 posts

207 months

Friday 14th March
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PushedDover said:
Again thanks.
Its a chap here in the Village with a 10bed place in Montriond suggesting we all head out (hes only just back, but on Monday we go) - looking at the WA chat group, he is militarily planning our excursions and events, and falls in with your suggestions.
I'll tow along (maybe literally as the only 'boarder'), until I dont want to......

It has been 9 years since last doing this, so to be honest as much looking forward to return the awe of the 'experience' - mountains, blue skies, a beer a lunch etc etc as the actual ski/boarding too.

Question remains - can I snowboard as a man in my fifties biggrin
Sounds fantastic, good luck chasing the skiers around (don't feel bad if you want to peel off and hit some different slopes instead of just mile munching on skis)

timlongs

1,782 posts

190 months

Friday 14th March
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mikeiow said:
We’ve had flurries this week in Les Arcs….conditions for spring remarkably good smile
& the beer situation is tolerable….click the pic to spot the table of Pierrots in the background hehe



Lost in the Woods & Cosmic - cheers Tim!
Great stuff!

The_Doc

Original Poster:

5,338 posts

231 months

Friday 14th March
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PushedDover said:
Again thanks.
Its a chap here in the Village with a 10bed place in Montriond suggesting we all head out (hes only just back, but on Monday we go) - looking at the WA chat group, he is militarily planning our excursions and events, and falls in with your suggestions.
I'll tow along (maybe literally as the only 'boarder'), until I dont want to......

It has been 9 years since last doing this, so to be honest as much looking forward to return the awe of the 'experience' - mountains, blue skies, a beer a lunch etc etc as the actual ski/boarding too.

Question remains - can I snowboard as a man in my fifties biggrin
I snowboard and I'm thirty nineteen,, so the big 5-oh is coming.
We snowboard lots in the Lindarets bowl and the offpiste heading over to Super Chatel and Linga is amazing. Just lift the rope and head off.

interstellar

4,157 posts

157 months

Friday 14th March
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3 weeks troday and we will be off to Val D for a week. snow this weekend so good news as we approach easter.

Charlie1986

2,064 posts

146 months

Friday 14th March
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Getting ready to head to VT tomorrow- can’t wait to get there and hit the slopes

malks222

2,033 posts

150 months

Saturday
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had an awesome day out at cairngorm today. damn it’s hard to ‘earn your turns’, but some days, scotland just delivers!

not sure how the legs/ feet are going to hold up tomorrow. couple of blisters that will need covered with compeed patches (rental boots) no idea how much vertical we covered, but skinned from the car park to the top (think that’s 500m ish?!) and then a couple of decent runs off off the top ish down into ‘concorde gully’, so maybe managed 1000m vertical, which i think was not bad for a beginners group. bring on tomorrow!

timlongs

1,782 posts

190 months

Woken up to a dusting of snow down here in Bourg Saint Maurice.

Looks sunny next few days then unsettled again.

mikeiow

6,746 posts

141 months

timlongs said:
Woken up to a dusting of snow down here in Bourg Saint Maurice.

Looks sunny next few days then unsettled again.
Quite a lot fell up the mountain last night: bodes well for next week!
Off we go smile

akirk

5,741 posts

125 months

Have fun - I am heading out to Tignes on Thursday so looking forward to some skiing - first time in 10 years!

alfa phil

2,215 posts

218 months

Been dumping it down here in the Tonale region of Italy.
Snowed on and off for 10 days .