Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

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talksthetorque

10,815 posts

135 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Why are people saying triggered all the time?

wtf does it mean?
It means something which then sets off some other occurrence.

Which is why it is used as the name for the part of the gun that pulls the spring loaded lever( then that hits the back end of the bullet casing and..errr.. bang)

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/trigger?s=t

Or b)

Why Trigger is called Trigger. ...
Rodney asks “Del, do they call him Trigger cos he carries a gun?”
Del reveals “no, it's because he looks like a horse”.
Trigger was the horse ridden by Roy Rogers a cowboy from the early 1950s.

Joratk

432 posts

110 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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a said:
Somewhere(s) in the vast universe(s), all of the chemical components required to make extremely rudimentary life came together as a random event. It's unlikely to happen on any one planet, but over the vastness of the universe(s) it becomes quite likely.

That rudimentary "life" (so simple it could survive extended periods in space) got blown about by meteors, etc and spread throughout the universe(s), dying on the vast majority of planets but surviving on a few where the conditions were right.

The conditions were right on Earth. Those basic life forms could die or reproduce. Most died, but one managed to reproduce (through extremely unlikely mutations that only became possible because they had so much time) - and the mutation that allowed that one to reproduce was also present in the DNA of the bit that separated from it. So those bits also reproduced, etc.

Many mutations later, there are turtles and humans and others. The chain between that first random encounter of chemicals and yourself has never been broken.

So, the answer is... We're here because over so much space and time the chances were good that we'd be here eventually. And it matters to us. But we don't really matter to anyone else, because if we weren't here our ancestors would be equally satisfied to still be living on through turtles.



... Unless you believe the (almost certainly correct) theory that we're living in a simulation. In which case, again due to the vastness of the universe it's very unlikely that the simulators even know we exist, so again - no we don't really matter.
Thanks for that, interesting to read.

The more I think about it, the more I begin to think it may be a simulation - or at the very least there's some rather major we don't know of when it comes to our existence.

It's almost not even my existence that bothers me the most (or mankind as a whole) but the fact that why are there even rocks floating in an endless abyss? Who put them there, when and why did it start? It's just surreal.

MikeO996

2,008 posts

224 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Why does there have to be a why or a who? There doesn't, it's just that our puny human brains have a need to see patterns and simplify things so that we can function in our world without our heads exploding.

Joratk

432 posts

110 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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It's just curiosity really isn't it? It doesn't change my day to day but now and again you just stop and think "what is really going on here?"

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Joratk said:
It's almost not even my existence that bothers me the most (or mankind as a whole) but the fact that why are there even rocks floating in an endless abyss? Who put them there, when and why did it start? It's just surreal.
It had to happen otherwise you wouldn't be asking questions about it so there is no point in being surprised. You might as well marvel at the way all your ancestors just happened to meet each other at the right time to result in you being created. It isn't even a coincidence because there isn't anything for it to coincide with.

Celtic Dragon

3,169 posts

235 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Joratk said:
a said:
Somewhere(s) in the vast universe(s), all of the chemical components required to make extremely rudimentary life came together as a random event. It's unlikely to happen on any one planet, but over the vastness of the universe(s) it becomes quite likely.

That rudimentary "life" (so simple it could survive extended periods in space) got blown about by meteors, etc and spread throughout the universe(s), dying on the vast majority of planets but surviving on a few where the conditions were right.

The conditions were right on Earth. Those basic life forms could die or reproduce. Most died, but one managed to reproduce (through extremely unlikely mutations that only became possible because they had so much time) - and the mutation that allowed that one to reproduce was also present in the DNA of the bit that separated from it. So those bits also reproduced, etc.

Many mutations later, there are turtles and humans and others. The chain between that first random encounter of chemicals and yourself has never been broken.

So, the answer is... We're here because over so much space and time the chances were good that we'd be here eventually. And it matters to us. But we don't really matter to anyone else, because if we weren't here our ancestors would be equally satisfied to still be living on through turtles.



... Unless you believe the (almost certainly correct) theory that we're living in a simulation. In which case, again due to the vastness of the universe it's very unlikely that the simulators even know we exist, so again - no we don't really matter.
Thanks for that, interesting to read.

The more I think about it, the more I begin to think it may be a simulation - or at the very least there's some rather major we don't know of when it comes to our existence.

It's almost not even my existence that bothers me the most (or mankind as a whole) but the fact that why are there even rocks floating in an endless abyss? Who put them there, when and why did it start? It's just surreal.
All hail Deep Thought and the mice biggrin

Ps: the answer is 42!

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Joratk said:
It's almost not even my existence that bothers me the most (or mankind as a whole) but the fact that why are there even rocks floating in an endless abyss? Who put them there, when and why did it start? It's just surreal.
Survival bias. We forget to count all the universes where no rocks formed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

glazbagun

14,279 posts

197 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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MikeO996 said:
Why does there have to be a why or a who? There doesn't, it's just that our puny human brains have a need to see patterns and simplify things so that we can function in our world without our heads exploding.
yes

Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly;
Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?'
Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
Man got to tell himself he understand.

I've noticed that some religious (or any believer of anything, I guess) types often get some sort of glee when you admit that you just don't know something, even when it's practically unknowable. Even a wrong answer is more comforting than no answer.

I guess it's also why you never hear a politician say "we should do this. We think it will provide an imperfect solution to our problem and we have no idea what the unintended consequences will be". It's not a very persuasive argument.

Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 30th May 22:03

bristolracer

5,540 posts

149 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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a said:
Joratk said:
What the fk are we doing here and does any of it really matter?
The chain between that first random encounter of chemicals and yourself has never been broken.
Did you see the programme about the dinosaur extinction the other week?

That meteor landed in just the right place,in shallow sea.
If it had hit land all life would have become extinct
If it had hit deep sea then the dinosaurs could have survived
As it turns out the meteor did enough damage to kill off the dinosaurs but not kill all the mammals and so here we are.

Oh and dont even think about the "when a daddy loves a mummy stuff" and the random chance that you made it here, odds of between 40 to 120 million to one

FiF

44,065 posts

251 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Watching an old movie the other day, 1961 and seemed to be set late 50s looking at cars.

Anyway the stars were Ian Carmichael and Janette Scott as a not that well off married couple. Not impoverished but certainly not well off, eg living in rented rooms.

Anyway Carmichael was driving a 30s Bentley. Not sure of model exactly, hands in PH card. But many of these films someone is driving a car that would be worth a fortune today, and imo worth a fair crack even then.

Does the team think that this is simply a feature of film industry fantasy land, or were such cars actually used as daily drivers by some as late as the 60s.

To be fair I think the first car I sat in was a Rolls Phantom 1. That was in the 50s.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Was 2007-2009 a really good period for VW Golf and Passat sales in the UK, or am I just suffering from confirmation bias?

There seem, in my opinion, to be a huge number more VWs that I see which are all with 07/57/08/58/09/59 plates on, than any others. Not so many from 2010-2017 that I see in such numbers.

Halmyre

11,190 posts

139 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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FiF said:
Watching an old movie the other day, 1961 and seemed to be set late 50s looking at cars.

Anyway the stars were Ian Carmichael and Janette Scott as a not that well off married couple. Not impoverished but certainly not well off, eg living in rented rooms.

Anyway Carmichael was driving a 30s Bentley. Not sure of model exactly, hands in PH card. But many of these films someone is driving a car that would be worth a fortune today, and imo worth a fair crack even then.

Does the team think that this is simply a feature of film industry fantasy land, or were such cars actually used as daily drivers by some as late as the 60s.

To be fair I think the first car I sat in was a Rolls Phantom 1. That was in the 50s.
I think in the 50s/60s you could pick up ratty old Bentleys and the like fairly cheaply. Classic car magazines would occasionally have a 'from the archives' bit which was small ads from the period.

glazbagun

14,279 posts

197 months

Wednesday 31st May 2017
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Halmyre said:
FiF said:
Watching an old movie the other day, 1961 and seemed to be set late 50s looking at cars.

Anyway the stars were Ian Carmichael and Janette Scott as a not that well off married couple. Not impoverished but certainly not well off, eg living in rented rooms.

Anyway Carmichael was driving a 30s Bentley. Not sure of model exactly, hands in PH card. But many of these films someone is driving a car that would be worth a fortune today, and imo worth a fair crack even then.

Does the team think that this is simply a feature of film industry fantasy land, or were such cars actually used as daily drivers by some as late as the 60s.

To be fair I think the first car I sat in was a Rolls Phantom 1. That was in the 50s.
I think in the 50s/60s you could pick up ratty old Bentleys and the like fairly cheaply. Classic car magazines would occasionally have a 'from the archives' bit which was small ads from the period.
Yeah the watchmaker George Daniels had Bentleys and was not a rich man at the time he acquired them. Back then they were just crude old cars. Why would you want a Nokia when everyone was driving iPhones? Thinking about it, in the 60's you could buy an E-Type, an MGB or a Rover P6 V8. A pre-WWII Bentley must have looked like a ratty old Lexus LS400 by comparison..

48k

13,078 posts

148 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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How have "they" (whoever they are) managed to organise a multi-act music concert with a venue, ticketing, staging, logistics etc. etc in less than 10 days?

MissChief

7,105 posts

168 months

Thursday 1st June 2017
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48k said:
How have "they" (whoever they are) managed to organise a multi-act music concert with a venue, ticketing, staging, logistics etc. etc in less than 10 days?
I'd imagine a lot of it is automated these days. The Promoter will likely have direct access to the venue or has the number if someone high up to make things happen as well as access to Ticketmaster or some other online ticketing site where they can create events and set bookings. Being that the artists are doing this for free (I believe. They'd better be!) then there's a whole lot less stuff in the contract as all the payment stuff isn't necessary. I can imagine the stadium is probably doing it without a hosting fee and they'll likely make quite a bit back from a merchandise cut as well as a cut of catering etc. too.

LarJammer

2,237 posts

210 months

Friday 2nd June 2017
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I spend many hours on the motorway network and have been wondering when was the last time there were NO roadworks on any motorway? I'm thinking it was a very long time ago.

TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

146 months

Friday 2nd June 2017
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LarJammer said:
I spend many hours on the motorway network and have been wondering when was the last time there were NO roadworks on any motorway? I'm thinking it was a very long time ago.
Try driving in the proper North of England, above Preston and Lancs. It's an absolute dream compared with the Midlands and south.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Friday 2nd June 2017
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TheLordJohn said:
Try driving in the proper North of England, above Preston and Lancs. It's an absolute dream compared with the Midlands and south.
with that massive motorway network in England North of Preston

the M6, basically

an upgraded A road, the A1M, and a couple more tiny upgraded bits in Newcastle and Darlington

Roofless Toothless

5,662 posts

132 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Pot holers.

Do people still do this? Many years ago (unfortunately) when I was a young man you used to hear about pot holers all the time, and a fair few of them used to get stuck down holes. Big rescue efforts reported all over the papers.

But now days, well I can't remember hearing about pot holers at all for ages, stuck or not.

Is it still a thing?

FiF

44,065 posts

251 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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glazbagun said:
Halmyre said:
FiF said:
Watching an old movie the other day, 1961 and seemed to be set late 50s looking at cars.

Anyway the stars were Ian Carmichael and Janette Scott as a not that well off married couple. Not impoverished but certainly not well off, eg living in rented rooms.

Anyway Carmichael was driving a 30s Bentley. Not sure of model exactly, hands in PH card. But many of these films someone is driving a car that would be worth a fortune today, and imo worth a fair crack even then.

Does the team think that this is simply a feature of film industry fantasy land, or were such cars actually used as daily drivers by some as late as the 60s.

To be fair I think the first car I sat in was a Rolls Phantom 1. That was in the 50s.
I think in the 50s/60s you could pick up ratty old Bentleys and the like fairly cheaply. Classic car magazines would occasionally have a 'from the archives' bit which was small ads from the period.
Yeah the watchmaker George Daniels had Bentleys and was not a rich man at the time he acquired them. Back then they were just crude old cars. Why would you want a Nokia when everyone was driving iPhones? Thinking about it, in the 60's you could buy an E-Type, an MGB or a Rover P6 V8. A pre-WWII Bentley must have looked like a ratty old Lexus LS400 by comparison..
Things must have changed pretty rapidly though. I remember a Scottish holiday, 6th form at the time so late 60s, we saw a chap and, presumably his wife / fiancee / girlfriend / maybe even a loved one touring in an open 4-1/2 litre, don't recall it being a blower. Even then we recognised it as something special and valuable, it looked to be in superb nick. They were wearing the goggles and flying helmet getup, remember someone commenting, "How to look a complete berk, yet totally get away with it. Bravo."
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