Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...

Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...

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yellowjack

12,269 posts

114 months

Thursday 14th November
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The Mad Monk said:
Over the weekend, man in fatigues carrying the wreath at a ceremony (Harlequins rugby on Saturday, if anyone else was there), I noticed his cap badge was Royal Engineers, I asked him where he did his training, 'St Omer Barracks' said he. Oh, that's a Catering Corps barracks said I, yes, I transferred to the REs when I came back into the Reserves, he said.

Is that right, can you do that?
Depends on the "training" about which you ask. And also upon when they were in "basic training".

Time was you did your basic soldiering training 'In Corps', but nowadays there are a couple of centralised 'Common Military Syllabus' locations where all soldiers go through basic soldiering training (Phase 1) together.

So it's quite possible for a Sloppo to transfer to the Her Majesty's Glorious Corps of Royal Engineers, especially if there is a reshuffle going on in army manning, and the one Corps/trade is overmanned, and the other Corps/trade is undermanned. They'll move because it benefits the service, not necessarily the individual.

The "but" comes with special-to-arm (Phase 2) training. Any soldier transferring from one Corps to another must go through Phase 2 training, so a RLC Chef coming into the RE will have to go to Gibraltar Barracks, near Camberley, to be trained as a Combat Engineer. Even as a Reservist, this would be true, as the old "TA" courses were (multiple) weekend affairs, or occasionally the soldier in question could be placed on a "term time" Regular Army Combat Engineer course, which would also qualify the TA soldier for his/her annual bounty payment, in place of their two-week "camp".

I've worked with several soldiers over the years who transferred. Infantry to Engineers. Engineers to Signals. RLC to Engineers. Intelligence Corps to Dental Corps to Military Police. Some transferred because they wanted to move to the first choice Corps but there weren't vacancies when they joined, some because they were flannelled at the recruiting office and soon realised it wasn't what they were "sold", and some because they got their first choice wrong, and having served with another Corps they decided they liked it better.

Caveat: I've been out since 2012, so I'm not familiar with any changes to rules on transfers since then. But it did happen, more often than you'd realise. And there would be delays, too, in getting qualified in their new trade. The wheels of bureaucracy, as always...

ETA: This chap... https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/sas-... ...enlisted in the REME and served for ten years before transferring to the RAOC. He then went on to quite a career in the SAS, apparently having completed Selection at the ripe old age of 36.


Edited by yellowjack on Friday 15th November 00:16

BossHogg

3,738 posts

126 months

Friday 15th November
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Many moons ago - (1986) I did all of my training in the one location - day 1 to pass out. wink

Digga

28,395 posts

231 months

Friday 15th November
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BossHogg said:
Many moons ago - (1986) I did all of my training in the one location - day 1 to pass out. wink
I got my D of E Bronze but basically CBA to do the Silver and gave up halfway though.

If that helps?

getmecoat

Lord Marylebone

8,833 posts

128 months

Friday 15th November
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Digga said:
BossHogg said:
Many moons ago - (1986) I did all of my training in the one location - day 1 to pass out. wink
I got my D of E Bronze but basically CBA to do the Silver and gave up halfway though.

If that helps?

getmecoat
I always write BSc after my name.

(Bronze swimming certificate)

DanielSan

14,574 posts

115 months

Saturday 16th November
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Lord Marylebone said:
I always write BSc after my name.

(Bronze swimming certificate)
Thanks, I need to watch Red Dwarf now.

GOATever

1,691 posts

15 months

Saturday 16th November
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https://thewaltercumpershunterclub.wordpress.com/2...

Another reptile, bloating as airborne. This one is stupid enough to be on actual vet’s Bookface groups as well. Check those photos out laugh He Can’t even get his Maroon machine on properly ( although that by itself wouldn’t necessarily scream ‘not a Para’)

Scabutz

2,188 posts

28 months

Monday 18th November
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Couldn't quite decide whether this fits in this thread or the Management Speak one but someone I work with added me on Linked In. Under his bio he calls himself, among other things, and "Occupational Hygienist".

Apparently its like a health an safety type role. Which is nothing like what he does. Hes a fking idiot so I have decided hes trying to make himself sound more important than he is and so is a Walt.

Starfighter

2,871 posts

126 months

Monday 18th November
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Cleans the offices?

Scabutz

2,188 posts

28 months

Monday 18th November
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Starfighter said:
Cleans the offices?
Scale and polish the desks. Who knows

pavarotti1980

2,551 posts

32 months

Tuesday 19th November
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GOATever said:
I’ve just watched this

https://www.channel5.com/show/bouncers/

It is Walt tastic. It’s Waltvana.
I had a watch of this last night. So many things which were hilarious

1) Mr T using some random yellow stick breathyliser to see if someone can come into a club. Alleging that they will lose their license if someone who is "over the limit" is allowed in.
2) Mr T allowing a woman to assault her friend and literally doing nothing. Police turned up (after the female rang them) and then dumped the woman in a massive puddle when she kicked out again smile
3) The "Mobile Bouncers" with a duty of care to a homeless bloke who wasnt responsive. Roused him, rang an ambulance and then drove off. So much for the duty of care.

Keyser Soze

18,996 posts

139 months

Tuesday 19th November
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pavarotti1980 said:
I had a watch of this last night. So many things which were hilarious

1) Mr T using some random yellow stick breathyliser to see if someone can come into a club. Alleging that they will lose their license if someone who is "over the limit" is allowed in.
2) Mr T allowing a woman to assault her friend and literally doing nothing. Police turned up (after the female rang them) and then dumped the woman in a massive puddle when she kicked out again smile
3) The "Mobile Bouncers" with a duty of care to a homeless bloke who wasnt responsive. Roused him, rang an ambulance and then drove off. So much for the duty of care.
Haven't watched it but as an ex doorman

1) This AFAIK correct same with bar staff serving someone who is obviously drunk can be fined, not actually seen it happen though
2) Were they inside or outside the bar/club? Outside is Police responsibility unless they are assaulting staff or damaging property
3) Can't comment

pavarotti1980

2,551 posts

32 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Keyser Soze said:
Haven't watched it but as an ex doorman

1) This AFAIK correct same with bar staff serving someone who is obviously drunk can be fined, not actually seen it happen though
2) Were they inside or outside the bar/club? Outside is Police responsibility unless they are assaulting staff or damaging property
3) Can't comment
1) unless licensing are stood watching then unlikely to be relieved of a license for a drink person. Especially given everyone inside is likely to be arsed
2) looked like it was club premises. I suspect if it was man hitting women they would have got stuck right in. All doorstaff I have met will happily jump into the street to get involved

Keyser Soze

18,996 posts

139 months

Tuesday 19th November
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pavarotti1980 said:
Keyser Soze said:
Haven't watched it but as an ex doorman

1) This AFAIK correct same with bar staff serving someone who is obviously drunk can be fined, not actually seen it happen though
2) Were they inside or outside the bar/club? Outside is Police responsibility unless they are assaulting staff or damaging property
3) Can't comment
1) unless licensing are stood watching then unlikely to be relieved of a license for a drink person. Especially given everyone inside is likely to be arsed
2) looked like it was club premises. I suspect if it was man hitting women they would have got stuck right in. All doorstaff I have met will happily jump into the street to get involved
I agree its highly unlikely but that doesn't make the statement false or waltish

It always used to be very difficult removing/restraining women as you'd get a slew of allegations from them, even harder in todays world I imagine

There are still a lot of bad apples in the industry unfortunately but I wouldn't do the job these days anyway, too much hassle for not enough pay

pavarotti1980

2,551 posts

32 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Keyser Soze said:
I agree its highly unlikely but that doesn't make the statement false or waltish

It always used to be very difficult removing/restraining women as you'd get a slew of allegations from them, even harder in todays world I imagine

There are still a lot of bad apples in the industry unfortunately but I wouldn't do the job these days anyway, too much hassle for not enough pay
No saying it's untrue but it's weird to be breathalysed to go into a club. Can't imagine it's calibrated and accurate

My brother has done it for years and his money now is crap compared to 10-15 years ago.

Scabutz

2,188 posts

28 months

Tuesday 19th November
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pavarotti1980 said:
No saying it's untrue but it's weird to be breathalysed to go into a club. Can't imagine it's calibrated and accurate
This is what makes it Walty. Anyone can recognise a drunk person. Policemen / Women are expert witnesses in sobriety. If they say someone is drunk and disorderly, they are. The dont have the take a breath sample, so why would this guy need to on the door of some st hole?

Blowing into a fisher price breathalyser and saying if you are "over the limit" you can't come in! Walty! What limit is that then? The driving limit? The national have a drink, grab a granny limit?

Starfighter

2,871 posts

126 months

Tuesday 19th November
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It like my depend on where the women in the club fall in the fix-dog scale.

Crossflow Kid

11,256 posts

139 months

Tuesday 19th November
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pavarotti1980 said:
3) The "Mobile Bouncers" with a duty of care to a homeless bloke who wasnt responsive. Roused him, rang an ambulance and then drove off. So much for the duty of care.
Wow. That helps.
Ambulances can do absolutely nothing more for an intoxicated person than anyone else can.
But hey, let’s just off-load the problem on to an agency that isn’t allowed to refuse, then no doubt sit back and tell everyone how we “saved the guys life”
tts.

The Mad Monk

5,956 posts

65 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Starfighter said:
It like my depend on where the women in the club fall in the fix-dog scale.
Wise words.

(What did he say?)

CrunkleFloop

381 posts

193 months

Tuesday 19th November
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The Mad Monk said:
Starfighter said:
It like my depend on where the women in the club fall in the fix-dog scale.
Wise words.

(What did he say?)
My translation might be a little off however I think this is a rare dialect of the Chavesh tribe and loosely translates to:

"My willingness to aid the damsel in distress rather depends on where the young lady rates on the scale of beauty"

pavarotti1980

2,551 posts

32 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Crossflow Kid said:
Wow. That helps.
Ambulances can do absolutely nothing more for an intoxicated person than anyone else can.
But hey, let’s just off-load the problem on to an agency that isn’t allowed to refuse, then no doubt sit back and tell everyone how we “saved the guys life”
tts.
Their alleged duty of care to a random on the street soon stopped like. I wonder if theoretically) the bloke croaked it in between them ringing and ambulance arriving would come back to bite them on the arse since they just nicked off