Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol 5)
Discussion
Overuse of the word "scam" and "scamera" on PH (and elsewhere).
It's not a f
king scam. They're not Scameras. There's no trick, no subterfuge. It's just the small matter of it being 'The Law' and published for anyone who can be bothered to read it. The authorities helpfully erect clear signage to inform drivers as to the speed limit, and also mandate that cars have calibrated and reasonably accurate speed measuring and indicating devices fitted and functioning. You just compare the number on the pole to the number on that dial in your car, make sure one matches the other and you're all good.
So if you got a speeding fine through being pulled over or as a result of being detected by a camera based enforcement device, then you are definitely NOT being "scammed". You are paying the price of being inobservant either a) through failure to see and act on the limits in place, or b) through deliberate failure to obey the rules. Both of which are required by 'The Law'.
For the record, I'm no saint. I speed. Usually not by a huge amount, as I try to remain within the "offer of a SAC" bracket. But I've had points and paid fines in the past too. And when I was caught it was because I made a conscious decision to exceed the posted speed limit. Those limits might be wrong. Arbitrarily chosen by unscientific methods, reduced "because NIMBYs", inappropriate (in our opinion anyway) to the road conditions. Whatever the reason, you have sight of the limit and control over the speed at which you drive. And you are NOT being "scammed", but punished for failing to obey the law.
You get caught and pay fines/have your licence endorsed because you took a calculated risk and got your sums wrong. Suck it up and quit this "oh, the woe, I've been caught by the scamera Stasi" nonsense. It just makes you sound like a giant spoiled baby.
It's not a f
king scam. They're not Scameras. There's no trick, no subterfuge. It's just the small matter of it being 'The Law' and published for anyone who can be bothered to read it. The authorities helpfully erect clear signage to inform drivers as to the speed limit, and also mandate that cars have calibrated and reasonably accurate speed measuring and indicating devices fitted and functioning. You just compare the number on the pole to the number on that dial in your car, make sure one matches the other and you're all good.So if you got a speeding fine through being pulled over or as a result of being detected by a camera based enforcement device, then you are definitely NOT being "scammed". You are paying the price of being inobservant either a) through failure to see and act on the limits in place, or b) through deliberate failure to obey the rules. Both of which are required by 'The Law'.
For the record, I'm no saint. I speed. Usually not by a huge amount, as I try to remain within the "offer of a SAC" bracket. But I've had points and paid fines in the past too. And when I was caught it was because I made a conscious decision to exceed the posted speed limit. Those limits might be wrong. Arbitrarily chosen by unscientific methods, reduced "because NIMBYs", inappropriate (in our opinion anyway) to the road conditions. Whatever the reason, you have sight of the limit and control over the speed at which you drive. And you are NOT being "scammed", but punished for failing to obey the law.
You get caught and pay fines/have your licence endorsed because you took a calculated risk and got your sums wrong. Suck it up and quit this "oh, the woe, I've been caught by the scamera Stasi" nonsense. It just makes you sound like a giant spoiled baby.
yellowjack said:
Overuse of the word "scam" and "scamera" on PH (and elsewhere).
It's not a fking scam. They're not Scameras. There's no trick, no subterfuge. It's just the small matter of it being 'The Law' and published for anyone who can be bothered to read it. The authorities helpfully erect clear signage to inform drivers as to the speed limit, and also mandate that cars have calibrated and reasonably accurate speed measuring and indicating devices fitted and functioning. You just compare the number on the pole to the number on that dial in your car, make sure one matches the other and you're all good.
So if you got a speeding fine through being pulled over or as a result of being detected by a camera based enforcement device, then you are definitely NOT being "scammed". You are paying the price of being inobservant either a) through failure to see and act on the limits in place, or b) through deliberate failure to obey the rules. Both of which are required by 'The Law'.
For the record, I'm no saint. I speed. Usually not by a huge amount, as I try to remain within the "offer of a SAC" bracket. But I've had points and paid fines in the past too. And when I was caught it was because I made a conscious decision to exceed the posted speed limit. Those limits might be wrong. Arbitrarily chosen by unscientific methods, reduced "because NIMBYs", inappropriate (in our opinion anyway) to the road conditions. Whatever the reason, you have sight of the limit and control over the speed at which you drive. And you are NOT being "scammed", but punished for failing to obey the law.
You get caught and pay fines/have your licence endorsed because you took a calculated risk and got your sums wrong. Suck it up and quit this "oh, the woe, I've been caught by the scamera Stasi" nonsense. It just makes you sound like a giant spoiled baby.
tl;drIt's not a f
king scam. They're not Scameras. There's no trick, no subterfuge. It's just the small matter of it being 'The Law' and published for anyone who can be bothered to read it. The authorities helpfully erect clear signage to inform drivers as to the speed limit, and also mandate that cars have calibrated and reasonably accurate speed measuring and indicating devices fitted and functioning. You just compare the number on the pole to the number on that dial in your car, make sure one matches the other and you're all good.So if you got a speeding fine through being pulled over or as a result of being detected by a camera based enforcement device, then you are definitely NOT being "scammed". You are paying the price of being inobservant either a) through failure to see and act on the limits in place, or b) through deliberate failure to obey the rules. Both of which are required by 'The Law'.
For the record, I'm no saint. I speed. Usually not by a huge amount, as I try to remain within the "offer of a SAC" bracket. But I've had points and paid fines in the past too. And when I was caught it was because I made a conscious decision to exceed the posted speed limit. Those limits might be wrong. Arbitrarily chosen by unscientific methods, reduced "because NIMBYs", inappropriate (in our opinion anyway) to the road conditions. Whatever the reason, you have sight of the limit and control over the speed at which you drive. And you are NOT being "scammed", but punished for failing to obey the law.
You get caught and pay fines/have your licence endorsed because you took a calculated risk and got your sums wrong. Suck it up and quit this "oh, the woe, I've been caught by the scamera Stasi" nonsense. It just makes you sound like a giant spoiled baby.
giant spoiled baby
yellowjack said:
Overuse of the word "scam" and "scamera" on PH (and elsewhere).
For the record, I'm no saint. I speed. Usually not by a huge amount, as I try to remain within the "offer of a SAC" bracket. But I've had points and paid fines in the past too. And when I was caught it was because I made a conscious decision to exceed the posted speed limit. Those limits might be wrong. Arbitrarily chosen by unscientific methods, reduced "because NIMBYs", inappropriate (in our opinion anyway) to the road conditions. Whatever the reason, you have sight of the limit and control over the speed at which you drive. .
Yellow, the 30mph speed limit through our village was not made arbitrarily but was ageed after site visits, highways and local council meetings and took 18 months to complete.For the record, I'm no saint. I speed. Usually not by a huge amount, as I try to remain within the "offer of a SAC" bracket. But I've had points and paid fines in the past too. And when I was caught it was because I made a conscious decision to exceed the posted speed limit. Those limits might be wrong. Arbitrarily chosen by unscientific methods, reduced "because NIMBYs", inappropriate (in our opinion anyway) to the road conditions. Whatever the reason, you have sight of the limit and control over the speed at which you drive. .
V8mate said:
Waitrose self-scan are card-only.
In any case, cash is council.
I was in an Aldi yesterday that was screaming out for council customers then.In any case, cash is council.
On my way to dinner at my sister-in-law’s yesterday evening, I had seen the Aldi sign, and gone in for a couple of bottles of wine.
As I picked up the wine, an announcement went out, “our card readers are all down, cash only can be accepted at the moment, we apologise.”
Suddenly the queue for the in-store ATM was out of the door, and into the car park.
I waited two minutes in a short queue, gave the girl my £27.80, and was off.
I use cards occasionally, but I’ve always got £50 or £60 on me, I like a bit of walking about money.
Frank7 said:
V8mate said:
Waitrose self-scan are card-only.
In any case, cash is council.
I was in an Aldi yesterday that was screaming out for council customers then.In any case, cash is council.
On my way to dinner at my sister-in-law’s yesterday evening, I had seen the Aldi sign, and gone in for a couple of bottles of wine.
As I picked up the wine, an announcement went out, “our card readers are all down, cash only can be accepted at the moment, we apologise.”
Suddenly the queue for the in-store ATM was out of the door, and into the car park.
I waited two minutes in a short queue, gave the girl my £27.80, and was off.
I use cards occasionally, but I’ve always got £50 or £60 on me, I like a bit of walking about money.
Frank7 said:
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I waited two minutes in a short queue, gave the girl my £27.80, and was off.
I use cards occasionally, but I’ve always got £50 or £60 on me, I like a bit of walking about money.
I can't be bothered with the change. I used to bag it up and take to the bank, but my local branch did away with their counter service so I use debit card for pretty much everything these days. I waited two minutes in a short queue, gave the girl my £27.80, and was off.
I use cards occasionally, but I’ve always got £50 or £60 on me, I like a bit of walking about money.
Cotty said:
I can't be bothered with the change. I used to bag it up and take to the bank, but my local branch did away with their counter service so I use debit card for pretty much everything these days.
I pay for everything on a cashback credit card (0.5%) leaving my salary as untouched as possible for the maximum duration in an interest-bearing current account (3.0%), clearing the whole amount on the last day of the credit card bill.V8mate said:
I pay for everything on a cashback credit card (0.5%) leaving my salary as untouched as possible for the maximum duration in an interest-bearing current account (3.0%), clearing the whole amount on the last day of the credit card bill.
What current account is paying 3%?I have a Sainsbury’s Credit Card but that’s because I get double Nectar points on my weekly shop. Probably about £2.50 back , not really a massive gain..
Cotty said:
V8mate said:
I pay for everything on a cashback credit card (0.5%) leaving my salary as untouched as possible for the maximum duration in an interest-bearing current account (3.0%), clearing the whole amount on the last day of the credit card bill.
What current account is paying 3%?I have a Sainsbury’s Credit Card but that’s because I get double Nectar points on my weekly shop. Probably about £2.50 back , not really a massive gain..
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