When will we be able to go to the pub again?
Discussion
Jasey_ said:
Next year.
Nothing getting back to normal until testing is common place.
And that is going to take at least half a year.
Even if you're allowed does anyone think it's going to be anything like before.
Seriously doubt it.
I think it will pick up quicker than you expect. There is a very large number of people that think the restrictions are BS and are choking to get back to normality, but because of the highly vocal social media and news hysterical frightened fairies they are keeping their opinions quietly to themselves and their friends. As soon as an opportunity to let loose without being pilloried and grassed on people will be revelling in getting out of prison for a crime someone else committed.Nothing getting back to normal until testing is common place.
And that is going to take at least half a year.
Even if you're allowed does anyone think it's going to be anything like before.
Seriously doubt it.
Except for east asian looking people possibly, speaking to a couple of Thai and Chinese descended friends they are quite concerned about misplaced backlash.
Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Wednesday 15th April 10:04
Nezquick said:
sc0tt said:
I'm more concerned about the barbers.
Ha ha - me too. I'm wavering on whether to buy some clippers and number 2 it all over but then sods law, everything will re-open straight after I do that and I'll look like (more of) a knob!I’m starting to look like one of the beetles, I wouldn’t be comfortable going into work the way I’m looking.
OldGermanHeaps said:
Jasey_ said:
Next year.
Nothing getting back to normal until testing is common place.
And that is going to take at least half a year.
Even if you're allowed does anyone think it's going to be anything like before.
Seriously doubt it.
I think it will pick up quicker than you expect. There is a very large number of people that think the restrictions are BS and are choking to get back to normality, but because of the highly vocal social media and news hysterical frightened fairies they are keeping their opinions quietly to themselves and their friends. As soon as an opportunity to let loos without being pilloried and grassed on people will be revelling in getting out of prison for a crime someone else committed.Nothing getting back to normal until testing is common place.
And that is going to take at least half a year.
Even if you're allowed does anyone think it's going to be anything like before.
Seriously doubt it.
Except for east asian looking people possibly, speaking to a couple of Thai and Chinese descended friends they are quite concerned about misplaced backlash.
In answer to the original q, it's when the NHS can cope. We'll continue to have small outbreaks, vulnerable people may well avoid risky environments.
It's going to be a case of how lucky do feel?
I think it comes down to the normality/economy vs No. of deaths equation.
There will be those who believe we can hide for a very long time and everything considered normal will be fine.
There are probably more extreme views that normality/finances/employment do not matter at all until C19 is eradicated.
I'm currently in favour of looking to loosen the leash sooner rather than later but don't know where pubs rank in the grand plan. I'd love nothing more than getting down the pub or bowling club for some proper draft and some socialising.
When the leash does loosen there will be an increase in cases (That also goes for colds, flu, stomach bugs, .etc.) but it needs to happen (within the capacity of the NHS albeit). I don't think any country can afford to hide long enough for a vaccine to be widely available.
I'm guessing on a phased extension of "key working" slowly getting to the point of more and more people working and moving about -Go to work, go home, and repeat. Pubs and proper socialising are probably pretty low down the list.
High end restaurants may actually be first before pubs or bars being less crowded spaces.
There will be those who believe we can hide for a very long time and everything considered normal will be fine.
There are probably more extreme views that normality/finances/employment do not matter at all until C19 is eradicated.
I'm currently in favour of looking to loosen the leash sooner rather than later but don't know where pubs rank in the grand plan. I'd love nothing more than getting down the pub or bowling club for some proper draft and some socialising.
When the leash does loosen there will be an increase in cases (That also goes for colds, flu, stomach bugs, .etc.) but it needs to happen (within the capacity of the NHS albeit). I don't think any country can afford to hide long enough for a vaccine to be widely available.
I'm guessing on a phased extension of "key working" slowly getting to the point of more and more people working and moving about -Go to work, go home, and repeat. Pubs and proper socialising are probably pretty low down the list.
High end restaurants may actually be first before pubs or bars being less crowded spaces.
Don Veloci said:
I think it comes down to the normality/economy vs No. of deaths equation.
There will be those who believe we can hide for a very long time and everything considered normal will be fine.
There are probably more extreme views that normality/finances/employment do not matter at all until C19 is eradicated.
I'm currently in favour of looking to loosen the leash sooner rather than later but don't know where pubs rank in the grand plan. I'd love nothing more than getting down the pub or bowling club for some proper draft and some socialising.
When the leash does loosen there will be an increase in cases (That also goes for colds, flu, stomach bugs, .etc.) but it needs to happen (within the capacity of the NHS albeit). I don't think any country can afford to hide long enough for a vaccine to be widely available.
I'm guessing on a phased extension of "key working" slowly getting to the point of more and more people working and moving about -Go to work, go home, and repeat. Pubs and proper socialising are probably pretty low down the list.
High end restaurants may actually be first before pubs or bars being less crowded spaces.
Pubs will be at the very very bottom of the list and probably the very last thing to re-open. If much of what we're doing is reduce stress on the NHS then allowing all the alcohol related pressures to return won't be a good thing. I imagine A&E departments across the country are very different places on a Saturday night these days.There will be those who believe we can hide for a very long time and everything considered normal will be fine.
There are probably more extreme views that normality/finances/employment do not matter at all until C19 is eradicated.
I'm currently in favour of looking to loosen the leash sooner rather than later but don't know where pubs rank in the grand plan. I'd love nothing more than getting down the pub or bowling club for some proper draft and some socialising.
When the leash does loosen there will be an increase in cases (That also goes for colds, flu, stomach bugs, .etc.) but it needs to happen (within the capacity of the NHS albeit). I don't think any country can afford to hide long enough for a vaccine to be widely available.
I'm guessing on a phased extension of "key working" slowly getting to the point of more and more people working and moving about -Go to work, go home, and repeat. Pubs and proper socialising are probably pretty low down the list.
High end restaurants may actually be first before pubs or bars being less crowded spaces.
Could be anything from mid summer to some time next year, depending on how quickly we develop and produce a vaccine and/or drugs to treat the disease. If they reopen this year it will almost certainly be temporary, IMO.
I think the focus for now will be on reopening schools.
I think the focus for now will be on reopening schools.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 15th April 11:21
Hippea said:
That’s a good point, I’m one of those types who likes to keep myself well groomed, fade etc.
I’m starting to look like one of the beetles, I wouldn’t be comfortable going into work the way I’m looking.
I let Mrs Blue cut my hair the other day, now I'm hoping lockdown continues for a while longer! I’m starting to look like one of the beetles, I wouldn’t be comfortable going into work the way I’m looking.
I know a few people in the brewery game (my old business supplied to Coors and Allied), caught up with a couple of them last week and their view was that pubs will reopen in around 6 weeks, that's what they were gearing up for at that point. One of them is main board at Heineken now, so I don't think it was purely wishful thinking.
Just long enough for my barnet to recover.
I'm wondering if some kind of 'table service only' model will be tried as a gradual ease back to normal?
I bloody love pubs, but as I've got older (I'm 47) one of the main things I've begun to hate is queuing at the bar. In my twenties sitting down in the pub was just not done, Now first thing I look for is a table!
My local pub is great, a craft beer paradise, but a bit of a victim o f its own success on a busy Friday or Saturday night, when you might have to queue 10 minutes to get a round in, Main problem is lots of bar flies sitting at the bar, not letting anyone else get in to get served, not very good for social distancing with loads of thirsty punters hanging on their shoulder.
I compare this to going to a bar in Whistler BC, where the waitress stopped my party of six at the door with a cheery "hold on guys, I can't let you in until I've sorted you a table", which she did within five minutes and then did table service all night, obviously tied in with tipping culture being the norm over there, we were 'her' table.
I'd happily see us move in that direction, if only temporarily, obviously it might limit the numbers in pubs, but better than nothing.
I bloody love pubs, but as I've got older (I'm 47) one of the main things I've begun to hate is queuing at the bar. In my twenties sitting down in the pub was just not done, Now first thing I look for is a table!
My local pub is great, a craft beer paradise, but a bit of a victim o f its own success on a busy Friday or Saturday night, when you might have to queue 10 minutes to get a round in, Main problem is lots of bar flies sitting at the bar, not letting anyone else get in to get served, not very good for social distancing with loads of thirsty punters hanging on their shoulder.
I compare this to going to a bar in Whistler BC, where the waitress stopped my party of six at the door with a cheery "hold on guys, I can't let you in until I've sorted you a table", which she did within five minutes and then did table service all night, obviously tied in with tipping culture being the norm over there, we were 'her' table.
I'd happily see us move in that direction, if only temporarily, obviously it might limit the numbers in pubs, but better than nothing.
I went to my local just before the shutdown and wished I hadn’t. The bar stools had been removed and we all required to sit at distance. Food was only being served to take away and everyone was being told to wash their hands between drinks.
I fully understand the reasons for the above measures but in all honesty while it’s like that I’d sooner drink at home.
I fully understand the reasons for the above measures but in all honesty while it’s like that I’d sooner drink at home.
2022 ?
There wont be any pubs by then.
I reckon later summer, early Autumn.
I suspect folk will put up with lockdown for a fair while but when it goes on too long, most will just say f
k it, we need to just take our chances, as to be honest its ok for now but its no life on an ongoing basis, especially as the financial pressures mount and the weather gets st, it goes dark and Christmas looms.
Chap I know died yesterday, went on holiday in Feb, felt ill, came back and died of Liver cancer, how much of our lives do we defer based on this ?
There wont be any pubs by then.
I reckon later summer, early Autumn.
I suspect folk will put up with lockdown for a fair while but when it goes on too long, most will just say f
k it, we need to just take our chances, as to be honest its ok for now but its no life on an ongoing basis, especially as the financial pressures mount and the weather gets st, it goes dark and Christmas looms.Chap I know died yesterday, went on holiday in Feb, felt ill, came back and died of Liver cancer, how much of our lives do we defer based on this ?
Looking at how other countries are dealing with the pandemic shows huge variations from total lockdown to quite relaxed.
Some are looking to open restaurants very soon, but with managed distancing. Austria, I think, is one.
The effects of these countries’ exit strategies need to be looked at and used as a guide in the UK.
Managing social distancing in the Friday/Saturday sardine packed pubs is going to be a task!
I can see managed and staggered reopening of various businesses that are deemed appropriate.
So, pubs would be lower down in my view and I guess at late July at the earliest.
Keep watching the results from other countries.
Some are looking to open restaurants very soon, but with managed distancing. Austria, I think, is one.
The effects of these countries’ exit strategies need to be looked at and used as a guide in the UK.
Managing social distancing in the Friday/Saturday sardine packed pubs is going to be a task!
I can see managed and staggered reopening of various businesses that are deemed appropriate.
So, pubs would be lower down in my view and I guess at late July at the earliest.
Keep watching the results from other countries.
sospan said:
Managing social distancing in the Friday/Saturday sardine packed pubs is going to be a task!
Ah, at the point the leash is loosened enough for our favourite pub to be open I don't think social distance will be a thing. I think it'll be more at the take yer chances stage. The virus is not going to go away. We'll have been mixed more in other environments by that point.Don Veloci said:
sospan said:
Managing social distancing in the Friday/Saturday sardine packed pubs is going to be a task!
Ah, at the point the leash is loosened enough for our favourite pub to be open I don't think social distance will be a thing. I think it'll be more at the take yer chances stage. The virus is not going to go away. We'll have been mixed more in other environments by that point.And after people have had a pint or two it all goes out of the window anyway.
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