When will we be able to go to the pub again?
Discussion
Leicester Loyal said:
Honestly, people will just go to houses and have drinks, as they have been doing for the past 12 months, which has caused this virus to spread even more than it would normally.
They know this, I really fail to understand it, it's like they want hospitality shut, but that sounds like I'm a conspiracy loon.
I don’t believe there’s any thinking involved on their part. They just believe that because they aren’t getting caught / fined, that’s all that matters.They know this, I really fail to understand it, it's like they want hospitality shut, but that sounds like I'm a conspiracy loon.
Uggers said:
I find it interesting the government want to give time between each removal of restrictions to see the effect on infections.
As opposed to the almost daily scattergun approach of implementing them last year.
As soon as we see infections rising, no matter the vaccination process, no matter the age groups involved. Controls will either be delayed, or we will revert back to an existence over winter. Its the primary response to infection control for the Government. And if it isn't infections, it will be extreme caution on variants. Something that in theory will never go away.
I feel very sorry for publicans and the breweries, a huge shadow cast over them that will possibly be there for years. Whilst lots avoid the controls and rules, and drink in everyone's garden pubs.
^This exactly.As opposed to the almost daily scattergun approach of implementing them last year.
As soon as we see infections rising, no matter the vaccination process, no matter the age groups involved. Controls will either be delayed, or we will revert back to an existence over winter. Its the primary response to infection control for the Government. And if it isn't infections, it will be extreme caution on variants. Something that in theory will never go away.
I feel very sorry for publicans and the breweries, a huge shadow cast over them that will possibly be there for years. Whilst lots avoid the controls and rules, and drink in everyone's garden pubs.
I believe that the onus is going to be put on published infection rates as of now, rather than hospitalisations / deaths, as that’s seen as shutting the stable doors after the horse has bolted. I’m really hoping this all works as planned this time, as I’ve got a lot of stuff to do, which has been delayed by this stuff.
Mr_Megalomaniac said:
The lowest point, (22nd August 2020) was 72 - in the height of summer. Lets assume that's your "low water mark". Last published data point on the 6th of April 2021 (frosty cold spring) is 221. That's 3.08.
I hope to God your occupation doesn't require you to use maths.
But, on the upshot, at least we know you unquestioningly accept information that conforms to your existing paradigm.
Interestingly, your forum handle - I assume inspired by Maximus Decimus Meridius? A man noted for his... Blind adherence to tyranny? Or wait, no no, that's right - a maverick who disobeyed authority that betrayed him and he felt it unjust. Just a thought.
3.08 and 4 aren’t a million miles away from each other. I was quoting a senior health official, who was being interviewed on the BBC news yesterday.I hope to God your occupation doesn't require you to use maths.
But, on the upshot, at least we know you unquestioningly accept information that conforms to your existing paradigm.
Interestingly, your forum handle - I assume inspired by Maximus Decimus Meridius? A man noted for his... Blind adherence to tyranny? Or wait, no no, that's right - a maverick who disobeyed authority that betrayed him and he felt it unjust. Just a thought.
there will be no return to any restrictions now, its a one way train and its bolted already.
People wont accept another lockdown, once everyones been offered a vax, thats it, normal life.
I live in town by liverpool street, its buzzing and back to normal, shoreditch last night was normal saturday night levels of people.
edit: i went to the pub also, £7 a beer!
People wont accept another lockdown, once everyones been offered a vax, thats it, normal life.
I live in town by liverpool street, its buzzing and back to normal, shoreditch last night was normal saturday night levels of people.
edit: i went to the pub also, £7 a beer!
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
^This exactly.
I believe that the onus is going to be put on published infection rates as of now, rather than hospitalisations / deaths, as that’s seen as shutting the stable doors after the horse has bolted. I’m really hoping this all works as planned this time, as I’ve got a lot of stuff to do, which has been delayed by this stuff.
I think if restricted hospitality had been left open I think ignoring of the rules would have been reduced as people would have accepted seeing friends/loved ones in a controlled environment for a longer period of time. I believe that the onus is going to be put on published infection rates as of now, rather than hospitalisations / deaths, as that’s seen as shutting the stable doors after the horse has bolted. I’m really hoping this all works as planned this time, as I’ve got a lot of stuff to do, which has been delayed by this stuff.
That they decided to stop nearly all meaningful human contact with others for 4 months, meant people over time thought f
k it and see their family and friends in their homes. But then that's common sense to know that's what people would do and to be honest completely understandable IMO. Maximus_Meridius101 said:
3.08 and 4 aren’t a million miles away from each other. I was quoting a senior health official, who was being interviewed on the BBC news yesterday.
The thing is we have to accept numbers. We might have got down to 72 admissions a day at the lowpoint but that doesn't mean that is a number we have to aspire to and hold the country to ransom for if we don't achieve that. Spread over the various hospitals that is tiny numbers and as an endemic virus we have to live with it.
Trying to convince the population of that is going to be very hard to reverse due to the government scare campaign.
Maybe (just maybe) seeing people in bars enjoying themselves again will convince them that normality (and acceptance of deaths/risk) has to return. It just has to.
bad company said:
Oh joy, the shops have also reopened. Seriously why are we putting up with this c**p. 
I was travelling through Heathrow on Monday when the shops (or some of them) opened. In a way they must be losing even more money opening up now as there just isn't anyone here.
As time goes on the shops and bars with the most easy going take on the rules will be the ones that do the best. Human nature to take the path of least resistance.
z4RRSchris said:
there will be no return to any restrictions now, its a one way train and its bolted already.
People wont accept another lockdown, once everyones been offered a vax, thats it, normal life.
I live in town by liverpool street, its buzzing and back to normal, shoreditch last night was normal saturday night levels of people.
edit: i went to the pub also, £7 a beer!
I was going to meet a friend at London Bridge but he told me the wait time was an hour to sit on a tiny bench outside plus it was £5 per 330ml bottle so we went Tesco instead got 3 500ml bottles for a fiver and had a drink by the ThamesPeople wont accept another lockdown, once everyones been offered a vax, thats it, normal life.
I live in town by liverpool street, its buzzing and back to normal, shoreditch last night was normal saturday night levels of people.
edit: i went to the pub also, £7 a beer!
Was quite peaceful till going back up to the station where it was fully mental with females pissing in the street and the atmosphere feeling like it would kick off at any time.
bad company said:
You’re being a drama queen. Have you been shopping? I went yesterday and there was no issue whatsoever.
Same as the gym, was in there at lunchtime. Had a decent workout. Other than every other piece of cardio blocked off it was identical to pre Covid.
Stop looking for problems and enjoy yourself man.
Went out for a drive to the lakes today. Sat outside a pub and had a pint and something to eat with the family. Wasn’t really any enjoyment sitting out in the freezing weather to be honest! I’ll wait until the pubs properly open or the weather gets a bit warmer next time. Dunno if the first pint in a boozer this year hit the spot as I’m used to drinking at home nowadays..
It will all die down in a few weeks like it did last time, staff will drop masks and everyone will be normalising again.
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I really hope you’re right but I’m not so confident. There’s Covid Nazis about, many enjoying the power & control.
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I really hope you’re right but I’m not so confident. There’s Covid Nazis about, many enjoying the power & control.
Edited by bad company on Tuesday 13th April 19:20
untakenname said:
z4RRSchris said:
edit: i went to the pub also, £7 a beer!
I was going to meet a friend at London Bridge but he told me the wait time was an hour to sit on a tiny bench outside plus it was £5 per 330ml bottle so we went Tesco instead got 3 500ml bottles for a fiver and had a drink by the ThamesWas quite peaceful till going back up to the station where it was fully mental with females pissing in the street and the atmosphere feeling like it would kick off at any time.
I am shocked at the price increases as well. In fact shocked at that specifically. I would think most pubs, business, and people who didn't stay employed would be feeling the pinch. Maybe I was wrong. I was surprised to see the local near me up prices to £5.50 for a pint of some lagers. Others being around £4.
My 70 year old parents are disgusted.
They have just had a friend call them up and invite them to a nice pub on Saturday for a session. The friend gleefully told them they had secured a 'table for 14' and they were all going to celebrate being out for drinks again. Their friends are all aged around 70-80ish and are a really fun crowd. They love going out for a night on the champagne, wine, and whisky together.
My parents are refusing to attend, calling it 'illegal and irresponsible', and making an excuse as to why they can't go.
I offered to take their place which didn't seem to amuse them
They have just had a friend call them up and invite them to a nice pub on Saturday for a session. The friend gleefully told them they had secured a 'table for 14' and they were all going to celebrate being out for drinks again. Their friends are all aged around 70-80ish and are a really fun crowd. They love going out for a night on the champagne, wine, and whisky together.
My parents are refusing to attend, calling it 'illegal and irresponsible', and making an excuse as to why they can't go.
I offered to take their place which didn't seem to amuse them
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