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M5-911 said:
CDB1983 said:
This looks quite terrifying and there’s video footage of what’s either a ghost or an escaped mental patient 
https://youtu.be/lTNSg-5Og6U
Something similar happened to me years ago. Middle of nowhere during a long training run. I was with another guy and that girl appeared in the middle of the track we were running on. Long white dress( a bit like a cheap weeding dress very worn) with some sort of heels on her feet. Blond hair. She was walking towards us head down. https://youtu.be/lTNSg-5Og6U
We passed her, I said hello as I was concerned that she might be lost or in distress but she didn't answer.
My mate get scared for anything so I didn't talk about it afterwards. Really not sure what the heck she was doing out there and how she managed to be where we were at and wearing heels and a dress like that.
Closest road was 2-3 miles I reckon from where we saw her.
Picture the scene, Summer of 1994 Devon cliffs. You walk across a field towards the town from the site over the cliffs.
We saw an old woman she is covered with some kind of white hat and veil (assume cause it was hot)as we enter the field diagonally opposite in the other corner. She is walking parallel to us so as we walk across the field she is too walking albeit slower and as we kind of pass I’d say we were 3/4 of the way to the end she was 1/4 from the start we are no longer able to see her in our line of site.
We get to the end and look back and she is now at the end of the field.
How the F did she walk the 3/4 length then width of the field in the time it took us to do the last 1/4.
Plus what she was wearing too you a it like the video above all in white.
Checked into a C18 hotel near Stiriling, arrived late afternoon, emptied my case, put a wash bag on the bath room window sill, window was closed. Took a phone call, as I was on the phone I watched my wash bag move almost a metre along the window sill. The sill was completely level.
A colleague was in the same hotel a week later and woke up to see a grey shape move through the wall, this was at right angles to the door, he felt no fear. Mentioned this to the manager, this experience was not unique and when the house was built there was no corridor, you walked through each room to get to another room.
A colleague was in the same hotel a week later and woke up to see a grey shape move through the wall, this was at right angles to the door, he felt no fear. Mentioned this to the manager, this experience was not unique and when the house was built there was no corridor, you walked through each room to get to another room.
Found myself at King Cross station a few years ago early one morning. The place was quiet and there was an eerie looking mist around on the platforms. Saw a family out of the corner of my eye and watched as one of them ran straight towards the wall with a luggage trolley, passing straight through the wall as if it wasn't there. Think one of them had an owl in a cage.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
No teddy boy ghosts, no mods & rocker ghosts, no skinhead ghosts, no punk ghosts.
When I saw someone she was in black/a black figure. I couldn't see or discern any clothing or face. Considering the land can increase/decrease in level over the years or buildings you probably wouldn't see them or the energy as it decreases over time.
Alot have had shared experiences in the same complex of items moving, kettles turning on etc etc.
Dinner ladies experiencing chairs being thrown across the canteen regularly. I've spoken to them. They aren't wind up/jokers.
Recently I've seen a chair appear on stairs, then move, then back over the course of a night shift.
Believe or not you can't discount what you've experienced 'no matter what imagination that your mind has'.
liner33 said:
Kes Arevo said:
Koyaanisqatsi said:
Then how do you know they were a 'she'?
Massive tits.Mind you if they are moaning that's usually a good indication
Electronicpants said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rva-H3EWEA
I'm with Billy Connolly on this one. A lifetime of TV, film etc put this crap into your head and, admittedly, for reasons unknown, your brain can do some pretty remarkable things convincing you that you can see things.
Not helped by absolute shameless crap like Most Haunted (ruled by Ofcom an 'entertainment show' which "should not be taken seriously"), mindlessly lapped up by low-IQ idiots incapable of rational and logical thought. It also spawned the seemingly universal code that all ghosts and spirits now adhere to without fail... knock once for 'yes', and twice for 'no'.I'm with Billy Connolly on this one. A lifetime of TV, film etc put this crap into your head and, admittedly, for reasons unknown, your brain can do some pretty remarkable things convincing you that you can see things.
I genuinely wish I had the time and effort to come up with a scary story about our 1950s semi in Essex, market it, get 20 mugs in every weekend like local ghost hunting groups do and charge them £40 a head to stand in the cold garage holding hands calling out for spirits. Will have to clear the coffee table if they want to do a ouija board though.
After my own experience I spoke carefully to a trainer (I didn't want to appear to be alittle odd) and from his expression and experiences alarmed me. It's a large complex and staff often race out so not to be the last one in. I also spoke to security and as mention the dinner ladies etc. All had personal experiences (not heard of and embellished). You can discount a fair few maybe as their imagination was going wild in part but chairs being thrown, people seen stood looking down the corridor (security), person whistling and walking slowly, etc. Etc.
It's a very active place.
I keep meaning to spend some time there (I was there again last night but needed to get home).
It's a very active place.
I keep meaning to spend some time there (I was there again last night but needed to get home).
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Dinner ladies experiencing chairs being thrown across the canteen regularly. I've spoken to them. They aren't wind up/jokers.
Isn't it odd with the tens of millions of cctv cameras covering offices, streets, houses etc, all around the world, these chairs that get thrown across places on a regular basis never do so in an area covered by cctv. I absolutely guarantee you that the chairs would stop being thrown across the canteen as soon as the first cctv camera covering the canteen was turned on. Hugo Stiglitz said:
After my own experience I spoke carefully to a trainer (I didn't want to appear to be alittle odd) and from his expression and experiences alarmed me. It's a large complex and staff often race out so not to be the last one in. I also spoke to security and as mention the dinner ladies etc. All had personal experiences (not heard of and embellished). You can discount a fair few maybe as their imagination was going wild in part but chairs being thrown, people seen stood looking down the corridor (security), person whistling and walking slowly, etc. Etc.
It's a very active place.
I keep meaning to spend some time there (I was there again last night but needed to get home).
I think you can discount all of it as their imagination going wild.It's a very active place.
I keep meaning to spend some time there (I was there again last night but needed to get home).
And none of it ever caught on camera/CCTV around the premises I bet. If this was happening at my work with so many people individually witnessing paranormal activity and potential damage being done to company property, I'd want to set up some IR security cameras and apply some controls to capture the first ever irrefutable evidence of a ghost in history.
I used to work in a building that was allegedly haunted by the spirit of a woman who hung herself there during WW2 when it was a munitions factory.
I used to work there late sometimes, and one evening I was there, in a part of the building I didn't normally spend a lot of time in, running in cables for new PCs. Something made all the hairs on the back on my neck stand up and it felt very cold all of a sudden. I put it down to it being and old building and probably a draught from somewhere.
About 20 minutes or so later, the security guard was doing his rounds, he didn't see me, as I was under a desk at that time finishing running the cables, but I've never saw him move as quickly as he did to get to his scan point on the far side of that room to prove he'd patrolled.
When I told the story to my colleague the next day, apparently that was the room the woman had hung herself in.
I'm far from a believer when it comes to ghosts, but that was interesting, and lots of outwardly sensible people who worked there has stories of strange things that had happened.
I used to work there late sometimes, and one evening I was there, in a part of the building I didn't normally spend a lot of time in, running in cables for new PCs. Something made all the hairs on the back on my neck stand up and it felt very cold all of a sudden. I put it down to it being and old building and probably a draught from somewhere.
About 20 minutes or so later, the security guard was doing his rounds, he didn't see me, as I was under a desk at that time finishing running the cables, but I've never saw him move as quickly as he did to get to his scan point on the far side of that room to prove he'd patrolled.
When I told the story to my colleague the next day, apparently that was the room the woman had hung herself in.
I'm far from a believer when it comes to ghosts, but that was interesting, and lots of outwardly sensible people who worked there has stories of strange things that had happened.
Koyaanisqatsi said:
Not helped by absolute shameless crap like Most Haunted (ruled by Ofcom an 'entertainment show' which "should not be taken seriously"), mindlessly lapped up by low-IQ idiots incapable of rational and logical thought. It also spawned the seemingly universal code that all ghosts and spirits now adhere to without fail... knock once for 'yes', and twice for 'no'.
Oh come on, Most Haunted was (is it still on, I haven't seen it in years?) was brilliant fun, and I never remotely took it seriously. How can you when Yvette Fielding spends the first 10 minutes introducing you to the location, telling you it's a 19th century psychiatric hospital that's now a housing estate, then Derek Acorah wanders around waving his arms and going "Right...ehm...I very much feel...ehm...that...this place would have...ehm...contained some quite troubled people...possibly even disturbed people" and everyone else turns to him and gasps in amazement and then looks around in horror. All while being filmed on low-light cameras even though it's broad daylight and they're in what is now someone's living room. Then they start filming floating dust motes. That was quality late-evening viewing!I've given an over-long account of my 'ghost' experience on p18 of this thread (15th-century monks in a spectral Transit van...). I don't believe ghosts exist in the sense of being the literal manifestation of a dead person. I am more open to the idea that they are 'real' in the sense that hallucinations, sensory quirks, tricks of the brain and optical illusions are 'real' - we know people hallucinate and see things that aren't there. That is a real phenomenon, it's just that what is being 'seen' isn't tangibly there in the actual world. The concept of ghosts, phantoms, spirits etc. exist in every culture in the world, so I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that the human brain and pysche has a natural tendency to 'create' them, and that certain visual, cultural and environmental triggers make that more likely to happen in certain times and places.
Multiple 'haunted roads' have been investigated and found to be nothing more than a roadside sign, shrub, milepost or tree trunk positioned to catch a car's headlamps as they flick over a bump. Someone driving late at night, alone, on a dark empty road in a remote location, with a bit of tiredness or inattention creeping on...suddenly the lights catch a pale, vaguely human-proportioned shape at the side of the road. The brain flicks into panic mode, rapidly conjuring up an emergency scenario of someone standing on the verge or even running into the road right in front of the car - every driver's worst nightmare. Before the driver has properly, consciously grasped the situation, the moment (and the object) has passed and they're left with nothing but the shot of adrenaline and a fuzzy mental image of a white person-like shape rushing into the road. Then that becomes "a women in a white robe dived in front of me. I had to have hit her, but I felt nothing, there was no damage to car and there was nothing there or any sign of anyone". Bam - haunted road.
I read a case once of a 1920s suburban semi that was 'haunted', with multiple people giving chilling accounts of a face, unattached to anything else, that would float around one of the rooms. Multiple people reported this, with the residents of the house seeing it multiple times, and all confirming that it was undoubtedly, chillingly a face. It turned out to be a combination of the streetlamp outside, the nearby tree and the bay window frame which, when the angles, light levels and the movement from wind in the tree were all just right, projected the effect on the walls and floor.
There have also been trials where they take one group of subjects and get them to spend the night in a house/hotel/whatever and tell them it's for a study on paranormal activity and, presto, loads of the subjects report all sorts of spooky goings on (and you can 'prime' things by dropping even quite subtle hints, like giving the subjects an information pack with the history of the building and changing what that history is directly effects what spookiness gets reported) and then another group of subjects spends the night in the same building on some other pretext and, surprise surprise, no ghosts.
It's suggestion, context, cultural expectation, environmental factors, optical illusions and our brains' uncanny ability to jump to conclusions on minimal data (especially seeing faces/people where none exist). I don't doubt that a lot - even most - people who report ghosts and other paranormal activity are genuinely experiencing 'something'. But tangible manifestations of the afterlife? Nah.
Ghost theory -
We have evolved to avoid risk and our senses have become very good at it. this is why we perceive the scent of poo and decay as ‘bad’ and little babies who have never seen a real one instinctively recoil from toy snakes and spiders.
Perhaps we have also evolved to avoid areas where people have died, and can sense these in some lingering environmental marker. This produces feelings of unease, etc and our brain then creates the ‘ghost’. Some people are more susceptible, just as some are more scared of spiders.
Its exactly the same way that our senses create images (vision) and sounds.
So yes, ghosts do exist, because we create them in our minds. And that is also why we don’t see any on cameras, and why most are ‘recent’ as the environmental signals decay over time as you would expect.
We have evolved to avoid risk and our senses have become very good at it. this is why we perceive the scent of poo and decay as ‘bad’ and little babies who have never seen a real one instinctively recoil from toy snakes and spiders.
Perhaps we have also evolved to avoid areas where people have died, and can sense these in some lingering environmental marker. This produces feelings of unease, etc and our brain then creates the ‘ghost’. Some people are more susceptible, just as some are more scared of spiders.
Its exactly the same way that our senses create images (vision) and sounds.
So yes, ghosts do exist, because we create them in our minds. And that is also why we don’t see any on cameras, and why most are ‘recent’ as the environmental signals decay over time as you would expect.
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