Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

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DonkeyApple

55,521 posts

170 months

Sunday 28th April
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Notch 8 said:
GeneralBanter said:
There are a lot of uneducated people about who only get their life ‘facts’ from soshal meeja so wouldn’t have a clue it was a tyre valve and whether it’s a fake post or not some are going to go away believing it. So adding a bit more reinforcement to their already firm but totally deranged world understanding.
That’s very true, and ultimately quite frightening.
I think that fuels and empowers it but doesn't create it. Discount pubs and bookies had all knowing nutbags inside them long before the invention of the internet.

I think the root is narcissism and insecurity. Some people simply cannot get their head around the reality that as individuals we just aren't important which hurts narcissistic personalities and impacts the insecure. Add the genetic needs amongst many humans to 'belong' and to 'have authority', the fundamentals that cause religious following and you have the basic ingredients of a CT if there is insufficient intelligence or education to overcome it.

It starts with CT Lite which are simple explanations to help avoid the truth. Things like 'she must be a lesbian' to swerve the reality that she just didn't find you interesting or attractive or see anything she wanted. 'He must be on the fiddle' to rationalise why someone they deem inferior to them has a nicer car or house. 'She must be bobbing the boss' to justify why they didn't get the promotion. And they start to believe these excuses for their personal mishaps that others just chalk down to one of life's many kicks in the balls that we're going to get.

They then end up in that bitter zone where they begin to change politics towards demanding everyone else is taxed more and more is given to them. And they're beyond the point of clarity to reason as to why others the same as them have made a fair doings of life when they haven't.

Finally, after a particularly aggressive night on the reduced to clear Aldi cheese selection they simply wake up the following morning devoutly knowing that it's all the fault of the Jews. They turn to the internet and begin their new life as a worthless serf to a messiah like Russel Brand, Tate, Alex Jones, or fat Gladys down the road who has a hot line to the mother ship and a penchant for EDL rallies and phone sex working on the side.

It's all someone else's fault.

DanL

6,233 posts

266 months

Sunday 28th April
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I’d bet that very few (although probably not no!) CT-ists would represent themselves in court. They’d correctly conclude they don’t know enough to do so effectively.

They’re all quite happy to believe they know more than those who have studied whichever discipline their particular CT relates to (civil engineering for the twin tower collapses, for example).

It’s quite strange really…

Baroque attacks

4,425 posts

187 months

Sunday 28th April
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DanL said:
I’d bet that very few (although probably not no!) CT-ists would represent themselves in court. They’d correctly conclude they don’t know enough to do so effectively.

They’re all quite happy to believe they know more than those who have studied whichever discipline their particular CT relates to (civil engineering for the twin tower collapses, for example).

It’s quite strange really…
You know when this is happening as they start just asking questions with the aim of drawing a point out of context to somehow support their misguided counter argument.

GeneralBanter

842 posts

16 months

Sunday 28th April
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DonkeyApple said:
I think that fuels and empowers it but doesn't create it. Discount pubs and bookies had all knowing nutbags inside them long before the invention of the internet.

I think the root is narcissism and insecurity. Some people simply cannot get their head around the reality that as individuals we just aren't important which hurts narcissistic personalities and impacts the insecure. Add the genetic needs amongst many humans to 'belong' and to 'have authority', the fundamentals that cause religious following and you have the basic ingredients of a CT if there is insufficient intelligence or education to overcome it.

It starts with CT Lite which are simple explanations to help avoid the truth. Things like 'she must be a lesbian' to swerve the reality that she just didn't find you interesting or attractive or see anything she wanted. 'He must be on the fiddle' to rationalise why someone they deem inferior to them has a nicer car or house. 'She must be bobbing the boss' to justify why they didn't get the promotion. And they start to believe these excuses for their personal mishaps that others just chalk down to one of life's many kicks in the balls that we're going to get.

They then end up in that bitter zone where they begin to change politics towards demanding everyone else is taxed more and more is given to them. And they're beyond the point of clarity to reason as to why others the same as them have made a fair doings of life when they haven't.

Finally, after a particularly aggressive night on the reduced to clear Aldi cheese selection they simply wake up the following morning devoutly knowing that it's all the fault of the Jews. They turn to the internet and begin their new life as a worthless serf to a messiah like Russel Brand, Tate, Alex Jones, or fat Gladys down the road who has a hot line to the mother ship and a penchant for EDL rallies and phone sex working on the side.

It's all someone else's fault.
There’s a lot of truth in this. Pre internet there were always people that preferred a semi insular life hanging out with others in Kaftans smoking weed and listening to Dylan and daydreaming crap to eachother while the coolest one strummed an acoustic guitar instead of getting on with their lives. The CT thing has tapped into those misfit groups and fed them fantasies and given them ‘real’ reasons why they are hard done by as adults - it’s because it’s all someone else’s fault as you say.

When these people get nabbed for something they invariably seem to have a mental disorder of some sort.

As for the leaders and promoters of all this - Jones, Icke, Tate, Brand, Trump, Russia, China - they are either stark bonkers or have another agenda and astonishingly if they say three things and two are disproven their followers will still believe the third to the death.

Ironically it is us who are the ‘sheep’ and need to ‘wake up’ - wake up to what, believing lies and fantasies??


Edited by GeneralBanter on Sunday 28th April 19:32

Baroque attacks

4,425 posts

187 months

Monday 29th April
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DonkeyApple said:
I think that fuels and empowers it but doesn't create it. Discount pubs and bookies had all knowing nutbags inside them long before the invention of the internet.

I think the root is narcissism and insecurity. Some people simply cannot get their head around the reality that as individuals we just aren't important which hurts narcissistic personalities and impacts the insecure. Add the genetic needs amongst many humans to 'belong' and to 'have authority', the fundamentals that cause religious following and you have the basic ingredients of a CT if there is insufficient intelligence or education to overcome it.

It starts with CT Lite which are simple explanations to help avoid the truth. Things like 'she must be a lesbian' to swerve the reality that she just didn't find you interesting or attractive or see anything she wanted. 'He must be on the fiddle' to rationalise why someone they deem inferior to them has a nicer car or house. 'She must be bobbing the boss' to justify why they didn't get the promotion. And they start to believe these excuses for their personal mishaps that others just chalk down to one of life's many kicks in the balls that we're going to get.

They then end up in that bitter zone where they begin to change politics towards demanding everyone else is taxed more and more is given to them. And they're beyond the point of clarity to reason as to why others the same as them have made a fair doings of life when they haven't.

Finally, after a particularly aggressive night on the reduced to clear Aldi cheese selection they simply wake up the following morning devoutly knowing that it's all the fault of the Jews. They turn to the internet and begin their new life as a worthless serf to a messiah like Russel Brand, Tate, Alex Jones, or fat Gladys down the road who has a hot line to the mother ship and a penchant for EDL rallies and phone sex working on the side.

It's all someone else's fault.
Many sensible, although slightly cutting, points there.


I like it hehe


740EVTORQUES

443 posts

2 months

Monday 29th April
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DonkeyApple said:
Notch 8 said:
GeneralBanter said:
There are a lot of uneducated people about who only get their life ‘facts’ from soshal meeja so wouldn’t have a clue it was a tyre valve and whether it’s a fake post or not some are going to go away believing it. So adding a bit more reinforcement to their already firm but totally deranged world understanding.
That’s very true, and ultimately quite frightening.
I think that fuels and empowers it but doesn't create it. Discount pubs and bookies had all knowing nutbags inside them long before the invention of the internet.

I think the root is narcissism and insecurity. Some people simply cannot get their head around the reality that as individuals we just aren't important which hurts narcissistic personalities and impacts the insecure. Add the genetic needs amongst many humans to 'belong' and to 'have authority', the fundamentals that cause religious following and you have the basic ingredients of a CT if there is insufficient intelligence or education to overcome it.

It starts with CT Lite which are simple explanations to help avoid the truth. Things like 'she must be a lesbian' to swerve the reality that she just didn't find you interesting or attractive or see anything she wanted. 'He must be on the fiddle' to rationalise why someone they deem inferior to them has a nicer car or house. 'She must be bobbing the boss' to justify why they didn't get the promotion. And they start to believe these excuses for their personal mishaps that others just chalk down to one of life's many kicks in the balls that we're going to get.

They then end up in that bitter zone where they begin to change politics towards demanding everyone else is taxed more and more is given to them. And they're beyond the point of clarity to reason as to why others the same as them have made a fair doings of life when they haven't.

Finally, after a particularly aggressive night on the reduced to clear Aldi cheese selection they simply wake up the following morning devoutly knowing that it's all the fault of the Jews. They turn to the internet and begin their new life as a worthless serf to a messiah like Russel Brand, Tate, Alex Jones, or fat Gladys down the road who has a hot line to the mother ship and a penchant for EDL rallies and phone sex working on the side.

It's all someone else's fault.
That's a thread ending post DA! clap

GeneralBanter

842 posts

16 months

Monday 29th April
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I see the new CT-like activity is Manifesting, and no doubt X, FB and every other channel of unverified uncorroborated ‘facts’ will be awash with fairy tales of receiving money out of the blue from having just thought about it.

May even be the new Pension Planning for Scrotes and rival the existing method of buying lottery tickets.

Ken_Code

616 posts

3 months

Monday 29th April
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GeneralBanter said:
I see the new CT-like activity is Manifesting, and no doubt X, FB and every other channel of unverified uncorroborated ‘facts’ will be awash with fairy tales of receiving money out of the blue from having just thought about it.

May even be the new Pension Planning for Scrotes and rival the existing method of buying lottery tickets.
Is this “The Secret” going round again, or something new?

bowder

110 posts

17 months

Monday 29th April
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May I recommend the EVs were never meant to succeed thread for some absolute lunacy on just about every level. Hilarious.

GeneralBanter

842 posts

16 months

Monday 29th April
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Ken_Code said:
GeneralBanter said:
I see the new CT-like activity is Manifesting, and no doubt X, FB and every other channel of unverified uncorroborated ‘facts’ will be awash with fairy tales of receiving money out of the blue from having just thought about it.

May even be the new Pension Planning for Scrotes and rival the existing method of buying lottery tickets.
Is this “The Secret” going round again, or something new?
Don’t know but Sky/BBC have been running stories which are a bit tongue in cheek and meant to be light hearted as no one in their right mind would believe that by just thinking about £1000 it would ‘appear in their bank account’.

And the bit in bold is where the problem is.

coldel

7,927 posts

147 months

Monday 29th April
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bowder said:
May I recommend the EVs were never meant to succeed thread for some absolute lunacy on just about every level. Hilarious.
Is this the 'EVs no one wants to buy them' thread?

I remember that starting up and thought it might cause a row...

bowder

110 posts

17 months

Monday 29th April
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coldel said:
bowder said:
May I recommend the EVs were never meant to succeed thread for some absolute lunacy on just about every level. Hilarious.
Is this the 'EVs no one wants to buy them' thread?

I remember that starting up and thought it might cause a row...
No, another one. 15 minute cities, and other CT woo.

coldel

7,927 posts

147 months

Monday 29th April
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bowder said:
coldel said:
bowder said:
May I recommend the EVs were never meant to succeed thread for some absolute lunacy on just about every level. Hilarious.
Is this the 'EVs no one wants to buy them' thread?

I remember that starting up and thought it might cause a row...
No, another one. 15 minute cities, and other CT woo.
Ah ok!

coldel

7,927 posts

147 months

Monday 29th April
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Just read it, see the OP is back peddling very quickly.
Seems he wants it all deleted, probably for the best.

Baroque attacks

4,425 posts

187 months

Monday 29th April
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someone needing help said:
I've been wrong all along. I've wasted my time, and yours, every time I've commented on any EV related thread on PH.

EVS WERE NEVER MEANT TO SUCCEED.

All our talk about the relative effectiveness and efficiency of ICE vs EV is therefore irrelevant.

THEY DON'T ACTUALLY WANT EVS TO SUCCEED.

The goal is not to save the environment. That's just a front. The goal is to stop us moving around. And by forcing a mode of transport upon the public that's not a workable solution for the masses, they're succeeding with that.

Before you cry 'tin foil hat', ask yourself why town and city councils forced upon the good people of the UK "15 min cities" that we never voted for.

And how can they do that? Where are those anti-democratic orders coming from? WEF, WHO and UN. All unelected by the people. All unaccountable to anyone but themselves.

Their goal is control and surveillance. 15 min cities, ULEZ and LTNs have destroyed businesses, put up the price of hiring any tradespeople, divided communities and divided extended families. The Berlin wall was built in 1961. It separated brother from brother, mother from daughter for 28 years, BY A BUNCH OF MEDDLING DEVILS WHO THOUGHT THEY COULD PLAY GOD WITH EVERYONE'S LIVES.

These unelected legislative barriers to free movement are moving us in that direction without any physical wall. And a car you can't just jump in and go anywhere, anytime you want without an unplanned stoppage, is another part of this.

Claus Schwab said, "You will own nothing, and you will be happy". I notice the satanic little creep isn't giving up anything himself. He and the other WEF overlords are still using their helicopter taxis, private jets and chauffeur driven limos, eating carpaccio of beef at top Swiss restaurants, paid for by the taxpayer, while telling you to eat reconstituted dead flies.

Well, I DIDN'T VOTE FOR ANY OF THAT!!!!!!!!!! And the UK government I voted for didn't put any of that in their manifesto.

It's all a con. It's never been about the trees and the cows and the air. They're just trying to stop us moving around. And governments around the world have been kowtowing to it.

I want a referendum on Net Zero.

I want my country back.
If we were playing CT bingo we’d be shouting House!

eldar

21,831 posts

197 months

Monday 29th April
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Baroque attacks said:
If we were playing CT bingo we’d be shouting House!
Sounds like an AI generated definition of a CT. Can't be real, surely.

ChevronB19

5,810 posts

164 months

Monday 29th April
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bowder said:
May I recommend the EVs were never meant to succeed thread for some absolute lunacy on just about every level. Hilarious.
More towards subsequent posters, plus Baroque who reposted the OP on this thread, the guy has politely apologised and has asked for the thread to be deleted. If it is, I hope the other posts in here also are voluntarily if not by mods. It’s clear he is feeling bad about it and is being quite panicky in the OT.

Mods?

Notch 8

280 posts

9 months

Monday 29th April
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Baroque attacks said:
If we were playing CT bingo we’d be shouting House!
The OP wants it deleted, and wishes to apologise to anyone they may have offended, but there’s nothing offensive about it.

I do the calling CT bingo card ‘house’ thing on FB sometimes. A bit childish of me, but it’s only when they become abusive if you question their view of things.

coldel

7,927 posts

147 months

Monday 29th April
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I wonder if there was an 'event' that triggered the outburst? Maybe he got a ULEZ fine or his business has bigger overheads because of X Y or Z.
Seems such an odd thing to do, but yes he is dialing it back, possibly because he didn't get a load of support and instead got the opposite.

paulguitar

23,643 posts

114 months

Monday 29th April
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ChevronB19 said:
bowder said:
May I recommend the EVs were never meant to succeed thread for some absolute lunacy on just about every level. Hilarious.
More towards subsequent posters, plus Baroque who reposted the OP on this thread, the guy has politely apologised and has asked for the thread to be deleted. If it is, I hope the other posts in here also are voluntarily if not by mods. It’s clear he is feeling bad about it and is being quite panicky in the OT.

Mods?
It would be a good idea to let that thread go quiet I think and hopefully, it will be deleted by the mods as per the OP's request.

A pile-on is not a good idea as he clearly regrets it and is feeling a bit foolish. I say this in the light of my cousin's suicide last week, we need to be mindful that people can be struggling, please.