Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?
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andyeds1234 said:
In the meantime, there are the conspiracy theorists who veer wildly from one horses
t theory to the next, pedalling their fearmongering for what? The greater good?
If the “authorities” over reacted, the fkwit conspiracy community practically frothed themselves into oblivion at the chance to create even more uncertainty, in an already volatile situation.
Below is just a small selection of ft theory to the next, pedalling their fearmongering for what? The greater good?If the “authorities” over reacted, the f
kwit conspiracy community practically frothed themselves into oblivion at the chance to create even more uncertainty, in an already volatile situation.kwittery examples from the authorities. - They closed children's playgrounds but kept garden centres open.
- You could order coffee from a coffee shop counter but not order a beer from a pub bar.
- The WHO said Covid was not transmissible from human to human
The above nonsense and lies feeds the conspiracy community.
You would be taken seriously with your outrage if you called out both sides...
coldel said:
PurplePenguin said:
To discuss the psychology of conspiracy theorists, surely by definition you have to discuss the conspiracy theory? (and that includes covid)
Not at all. The behaviours and psychology is pretty consistent across all conspiracies, its why often you see that people don't just go for one, there are usually quite a few. The content is largely irrelevant. And those same psychological profiles and behaviours have been pretty consistent over time. COVID happens to be the most recent one, in ten years time it will be largely forgotten and it will be the next set, but the behaviours and psychological makeup of who and why they are pushed so arduously is always the same. This thread essentially stagnates - if you assert the above, then any further discussion is pointless - you might as well just make this thread a “sticky”?
PurplePenguin said:
coldel said:
PurplePenguin said:
To discuss the psychology of conspiracy theorists, surely by definition you have to discuss the conspiracy theory? (and that includes covid)
Not at all. The behaviours and psychology is pretty consistent across all conspiracies, its why often you see that people don't just go for one, there are usually quite a few. The content is largely irrelevant. And those same psychological profiles and behaviours have been pretty consistent over time. COVID happens to be the most recent one, in ten years time it will be largely forgotten and it will be the next set, but the behaviours and psychological makeup of who and why they are pushed so arduously is always the same. This thread essentially stagnates - if you assert the above, then any further discussion is pointless - you might as well just make this thread a “sticky”?
Notch 8 said:
More CTist rubbish on FB, which has got around 1.5k ‘likes’.
How the numbers of the gullible are stacking up.
You aren't talking thousands, there are millions of them.How the numbers of the gullible are stacking up.
The meme is a good example though, like all CTs it's grounded in enough truth to convince "enquiring minds". We are all programmed, it starts at an early age, we are taught right from wrong (this lesson gets skipped by some), then basic laws - how to get through an average day without ending up in trouble, before eventually ending up with not questioning tax and thinking we need the latest shiny thing and it's normal to get in to debt and pay interest to own it even though we will have moved on to the next shiny thing before we pay this one off.
It's the price of living the way we do, I don't really want to live in a cave, shiny things are nice and I don't get to do any of it if I'm in prison. So we are programmed. And there are no doubt some lunatics at the top who would love to be in control of a subservient human race.
But the key point that stops you being a wibbling loon is appreciating that what you take to be world leaders and governments doing evil things, is mostly just them being incompetent, sometimes corrupt but generally trying to do the right thing (ISH) and failing.
As much as we would all like to blame someone else for not being millionaire playboys with a string of beautiful lovers, it isn't an evil cabal trying to keep us down. It's us.
PurplePenguin said:
Notch 8 said:
More CTist rubbish on FB, which has got around 1.5k ‘likes’.
How the numbers of the gullible are stacking up.
Do you go looking for this stuff under the guise of research? How the numbers of the gullible are stacking up.
I don’t think the cats of Facebook videos will be worried about 1.5k “likes” …..
Boringvolvodriver said:
PurplePenguin said:
coldel said:
PurplePenguin said:
To discuss the psychology of conspiracy theorists, surely by definition you have to discuss the conspiracy theory? (and that includes covid)
Not at all. The behaviours and psychology is pretty consistent across all conspiracies, its why often you see that people don't just go for one, there are usually quite a few. The content is largely irrelevant. And those same psychological profiles and behaviours have been pretty consistent over time. COVID happens to be the most recent one, in ten years time it will be largely forgotten and it will be the next set, but the behaviours and psychological makeup of who and why they are pushed so arduously is always the same. This thread essentially stagnates - if you assert the above, then any further discussion is pointless - you might as well just make this thread a “sticky”?
Yes COVID the virus was a real thing, no one is denying that. But, people obsessively trying to convince others in an almost religious type way, quoting snapshots of data thinking it explains a massively complex situation, a lot of it often out of context, then leaping straight to 'Big Pharma' and they are all out to get us/take our money/take our freedoms etc, quite simply isn't a real thing and bears the hallmarks of the aforementioned type.
And yes the thread does often stagnate, but thats ok. I like to talk about the psychology of why a CT becomes almost obsessive in their day to day around conspiracies, others on here like to talk about other aspects. Now, I wonder if the same could be said of the other threads? That if they stagnated would that be allowed or would certain individuals continue to post more of the same over and over...
Edited by coldel on Thursday 25th April 12:32
Edited by coldel on Thursday 25th April 12:32
Ashfordian said:
andyeds1234 said:
In the meantime, there are the conspiracy theorists who veer wildly from one horsest theory to the next, pedalling their fearmongering for what? The greater good?
If the “authorities” over reacted, the fkwit conspiracy community practically frothed themselves into oblivion at the chance to create even more uncertainty, in an already volatile situation.
Below is just a small selection of fuctwittery examples from the authorities. t theory to the next, pedalling their fearmongering for what? The greater good?If the “authorities” over reacted, the f
kwit conspiracy community practically frothed themselves into oblivion at the chance to create even more uncertainty, in an already volatile situation.- They closed children's playgrounds but kept garden centres open.
- You could order coffee from a coffee shop counter but not order a beer from a pub bar.
- The WHO said Covid was not transmissible from human to human
The above nonsense and lies feeds the conspiracy community.
You would be taken seriously with your outrage if you called out both sides...
In any event your list of terrible things the awful government did is a shining example of petty criticism of something long gone and done during exceptional times never before encountered. If it was WW2 you would have had a field day with the BEF and Dunkirk and probably still be rambling on about it now to anyone who could be bothered to listen to you, ignoring the fact that the allies went on to win the war.
GeneralBanter said:
Ashfordian said:
andyeds1234 said:
In the meantime, there are the conspiracy theorists who veer wildly from one horsest theory to the next, pedalling their fearmongering for what? The greater good?
If the “authorities” over reacted, the fkwit conspiracy community practically frothed themselves into oblivion at the chance to create even more uncertainty, in an already volatile situation.
Below is just a small selection of fuctwittery examples from the authorities. t theory to the next, pedalling their fearmongering for what? The greater good?If the “authorities” over reacted, the f
kwit conspiracy community practically frothed themselves into oblivion at the chance to create even more uncertainty, in an already volatile situation.- They closed children's playgrounds but kept garden centres open.
- You could order coffee from a coffee shop counter but not order a beer from a pub bar.
- The WHO said Covid was not transmissible from human to human
The above nonsense and lies feeds the conspiracy community.
You would be taken seriously with your outrage if you called out both sides...
Self awareness and all that.
I have no knowledge of Ashfordian’s posting history, so that isn’t directed specifically at him.
Edited by andyeds1234 on Thursday 25th April 13:54
GeneralBanter said:
Ashfordian said:
andyeds1234 said:
In the meantime, there are the conspiracy theorists who veer wildly from one horsest theory to the next, pedalling their fearmongering for what? The greater good?
If the “authorities” over reacted, the fkwit conspiracy community practically frothed themselves into oblivion at the chance to create even more uncertainty, in an already volatile situation.
Below is just a small selection of fuctwittery examples from the authorities. t theory to the next, pedalling their fearmongering for what? The greater good?If the “authorities” over reacted, the f
kwit conspiracy community practically frothed themselves into oblivion at the chance to create even more uncertainty, in an already volatile situation.- They closed children's playgrounds but kept garden centres open.
- You could order coffee from a coffee shop counter but not order a beer from a pub bar.
- The WHO said Covid was not transmissible from human to human
The above nonsense and lies feeds the conspiracy community.
You would be taken seriously with your outrage if you called out both sides...
In any event your list of terrible things the awful government did is a shining example of petty criticism of something long gone and done during exceptional times never before encountered. If it was WW2 you would have had a field day with the BEF and Dunkirk and probably still be rambling on about it now to anyone who could be bothered to listen to you, ignoring the fact that the allies went on to win the war.
GeneralBanter said:
Ashfordian said:
andyeds1234 said:
In the meantime, there are the conspiracy theorists who veer wildly from one horsest theory to the next, pedalling their fearmongering for what? The greater good?
If the “authorities” over reacted, the fkwit conspiracy community practically frothed themselves into oblivion at the chance to create even more uncertainty, in an already volatile situation.
Below is just a small selection of fuctwittery examples from the authorities. t theory to the next, pedalling their fearmongering for what? The greater good?If the “authorities” over reacted, the f
kwit conspiracy community practically frothed themselves into oblivion at the chance to create even more uncertainty, in an already volatile situation.- They closed children's playgrounds but kept garden centres open.
- You could order coffee from a coffee shop counter but not order a beer from a pub bar.
- The WHO said Covid was not transmissible from human to human
The above nonsense and lies feeds the conspiracy community.
You would be taken seriously with your outrage if you called out both sides...
In any event your list of terrible things the awful government did is a shining example of petty criticism of something long gone and done during exceptional times never before encountered. If it was WW2 you would have had a field day with the BEF and Dunkirk and probably still be rambling on about it now to anyone who could be bothered to listen to you, ignoring the fact that the allies went on to win the war.
The one thing that you and many others on this thread have demonstrated, is that we know that as a German citizen in 1930's Germany you would have supported the government and their actions. And that is never a good look no matter how much word salad you try to use to say you would not have gone along with said Government actions! Otherwise you would be a CT'er...
Ashfordian said:
GeneralBanter said:
Ashfordian said:
andyeds1234 said:
In the meantime, there are the conspiracy theorists who veer wildly from one horsest theory to the next, pedalling their fearmongering for what? The greater good?
If the “authorities” over reacted, the fkwit conspiracy community practically frothed themselves into oblivion at the chance to create even more uncertainty, in an already volatile situation.
Below is just a small selection of fuctwittery examples from the authorities. t theory to the next, pedalling their fearmongering for what? The greater good?If the “authorities” over reacted, the f
kwit conspiracy community practically frothed themselves into oblivion at the chance to create even more uncertainty, in an already volatile situation.- They closed children's playgrounds but kept garden centres open.
- You could order coffee from a coffee shop counter but not order a beer from a pub bar.
- The WHO said Covid was not transmissible from human to human
The above nonsense and lies feeds the conspiracy community.
You would be taken seriously with your outrage if you called out both sides...
In any event your list of terrible things the awful government did is a shining example of petty criticism of something long gone and done during exceptional times never before encountered. If it was WW2 you would have had a field day with the BEF and Dunkirk and probably still be rambling on about it now to anyone who could be bothered to listen to you, ignoring the fact that the allies went on to win the war.
The one thing that you and many others on this thread have demonstrated, is that we know that as a German citizen in 1930's Germany you would have supported the government and their actions. And that is never a good look no matter how much word salad you try to use to say you would not have gone along with said Government actions! Otherwise you would be a CT'er...
Goon.
119 said:
And we’re back to Nazi Germany.
Goon.
Hey Gramps,Goon.
Still as blinkered as you have always been - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
p.s. Why did you change your name? What are you trying to hide?
Ashfordian said:
I am part of the conspiracy community because I advocated a Covid response similar to Sweden. Based on your close-minded view that makes the whole of Sweden and their prominent experts Anders Tegnell & Johan Giesecke also part of said community. Or simply, this is the public health response the UK would have had without politicians thinking about the ballot box.
The one thing that you and many others on this thread have demonstrated, is that we know that as a German citizen in 1930's Germany you would have supported the government and their actions. And that is never a good look no matter how much word salad you try to use to say you would not have gone along with said Government actions! Otherwise you would be a CT'er...
As I'm sure you're aware you'll get nothing but a hard agree from me on the Sweden part - they stick to tried and tested methods of handling a pandemic and by all accounts they've been vindicated, with lower excess deaths and less damage to education etc.The one thing that you and many others on this thread have demonstrated, is that we know that as a German citizen in 1930's Germany you would have supported the government and their actions. And that is never a good look no matter how much word salad you try to use to say you would not have gone along with said Government actions! Otherwise you would be a CT'er...
No need for the Nazi comparisons though as they aren't really relevant. East Germany with the Stasi then possibly, not so much the Nazis though.
Ashfordian said:
I am part of the conspiracy community because I advocated a Covid response similar to Sweden. Based on your close-minded view that makes the whole of Sweden and their prominent experts Anders Tegnell & Johan Giesecke also part of said community. Or simply, this is the public health response the UK would have had without politicians thinking about the ballot box.
The one thing that you and many others on this thread have demonstrated, is that we know that as a German citizen in 1930's Germany you would have supported the government and their actions. And that is never a good look no matter how much word salad you try to use to say you would not have gone along with said Government actions! Otherwise you would be a CT'er...
I think its important to understand historical facts around the rise of Hitler and Germany in those times, the fractures in the public thinking, why Hitler came to power. Its a lot more complex than the very simple terms you have used above. Its a poor comparison, but one that gets trotted out every now and again.The one thing that you and many others on this thread have demonstrated, is that we know that as a German citizen in 1930's Germany you would have supported the government and their actions. And that is never a good look no matter how much word salad you try to use to say you would not have gone along with said Government actions! Otherwise you would be a CT'er...
Someone that doesn't agree with a CT point of view doesn't automatically drop into one single other pool of people. This is a construct of a CT 'leading voice' if you might call it that, that makes a following CT feel like some sort of defender of the truth or the like - its us vs them. Any Man Utd fan from the 90s and 00s can tell you all about siege mentality and the motivating effect it has...
The reality is quite different. The people that do not agree with you as a CT are multiple groups, multiple levels, just because you dont agree with the government on something doesn't mean everyone else just sheepishly nods and does. This is a complete fallacy.
Ashfordian said:
119 said:
And we’re back to Nazi Germany.
Goon.
Hey Gramps,Goon.
Still as blinkered as you have always been - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
p.s. Why did you change your name? What are you trying to hide?
Nice try though.
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