A bit council (Vol 5)

A bit council (Vol 5)

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cheesejunkie

641 posts

4 months

Sunday 19th March
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bongtom said:
You come across as a little bitter, or jealous.
If I do I’m not. Dislike of the status quo is not jealousy and to be honest that’s a lazy accusation to make.

There is much wrong with a system that encourages people to become landlords as if that’s a good use of entrepreneurial investment from banks through to well meaning parents saving for their kid’s mortgage because they’re locked in the system.

I understand why some do it but I’ll not defend their right to make money from those less fortunate. I definitely won’t have any truck with someone suggesting that as a landlord they’re hard done by. It’s money for nothing. They’re a pampered class not a hard done by one.

Sway

24,690 posts

181 months

Sunday 19th March
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Why is someone renting 'less fortunate' by definition?

Plenty of scenarios where it's the favorable option for the renter.

Just like a car lease is the right option for some, and purchase for others.

Captain Smerc

2,812 posts

103 months

Sunday 19th March
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I've rented for many years & my landlord is excellent.
Not everyone is the same, lazy thinking to believe that.

cheesejunkie

641 posts

4 months

Sunday 19th March
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Sway said:
Why is someone renting 'less fortunate' by definition?

Plenty of scenarios where it's the favorable option for the renter.

Just like a car lease is the right option for some, and purchase for others.
I don’t know the answer but care to take a punt on how many renters would prefer to be owners?

It does work for some, the word you’re looking for is landlords smile.

I don’t know hey I got involved in this fight but it’s more interesting than slagging fat council families to me.

I’ve rented when it suited my circumstances. The market needs rental properties. It doesn’t need them all to be owned by amateur speculators. It does need an evaluation of renter vs landlord rights. The feudal system’s getting a bit dated.

Grumps.

2,393 posts

23 months

Sunday 19th March
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cheesejunkie said:
bongtom said:
You come across as a little bitter, or jealous.
If I do I’m not. Dislike of the status quo is not jealousy and to be honest that’s a lazy accusation to make.

There is much wrong with a system that encourages people to become landlords as if that’s a good use of entrepreneurial investment from banks through to well meaning parents saving for their kid’s mortgage because they’re locked in the system.

I understand why some do it but I’ll not defend their right to make money from those less fortunate. I definitely won’t have any truck with someone suggesting that as a landlord they’re hard done by. It’s money for nothing. They’re a pampered class not a hard done by one.
Why did you give up being a landlord as surely it must be quite profitable?

Caddyshack

7,753 posts

193 months

Sunday 19th March
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cheesejunkie said:
bongtom said:
You come across as a little bitter, or jealous.
If I do I’m not. Dislike of the status quo is not jealousy and to be honest that’s a lazy accusation to make.

There is much wrong with a system that encourages people to become landlords as if that’s a good use of entrepreneurial investment from banks through to well meaning parents saving for their kid’s mortgage because they’re locked in the system.

I understand why some do it but I’ll not defend their right to make money from those less fortunate. I definitely won’t have any truck with someone suggesting that as a landlord they’re hard done by. It’s money for nothing. They’re a pampered class not a hard done by one.
The system actively discouraged the land Lord these days…the taxation is harsh on the way in and the way out and whilst trying to make a profit. The land Lord is the big bad wolf in the eyes of the system.

cheesejunkie

641 posts

4 months

Sunday 19th March
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Grumps. said:
cheesejunkie said:
bongtom said:
You come across as a little bitter, or jealous.
If I do I’m not. Dislike of the status quo is not jealousy and to be honest that’s a lazy accusation to make.

There is much wrong with a system that encourages people to become landlords as if that’s a good use of entrepreneurial investment from banks through to well meaning parents saving for their kid’s mortgage because they’re locked in the system.

I understand why some do it but I’ll not defend their right to make money from those less fortunate. I definitely won’t have any truck with someone suggesting that as a landlord they’re hard done by. It’s money for nothing. They’re a pampered class not a hard done by one.
Why did you give up being a landlord as surely it must be quite profitable?
Very good question and gets to the heart of why I may be a little two faced on this. Being a landlord wasn’t hard work but doing it for one house was an extra level of effort I couldn’t be bothered with, I was an attentive good one, I’m not born for that industry.

It has definitely coloured my view of one or two house owners speculating because they have the money to do so as opposed to those with a portfolio running it as their business.

Alorotom

11,103 posts

174 months

Sunday 19th March
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cheesejunkie said:
Grumps. said:
cheesejunkie said:
bongtom said:
You come across as a little bitter, or jealous.
If I do I’m not. Dislike of the status quo is not jealousy and to be honest that’s a lazy accusation to make.

There is much wrong with a system that encourages people to become landlords as if that’s a good use of entrepreneurial investment from banks through to well meaning parents saving for their kid’s mortgage because they’re locked in the system.

I understand why some do it but I’ll not defend their right to make money from those less fortunate. I definitely won’t have any truck with someone suggesting that as a landlord they’re hard done by. It’s money for nothing. They’re a pampered class not a hard done by one.
Why did you give up being a landlord as surely it must be quite profitable?
Very good question and gets to the heart of why I may be a little two faced on this. Being a landlord wasn’t hard work but doing it for one house was an extra level of effort I couldn’t be bothered with, I was an attentive good one, I’m not born for that industry.

It has definitely coloured my view of one or two house owners speculating because they have the money to do so as opposed to those with a portfolio running it as their business.
Never mind 2-faced, it's complete contradictory. It's either work/effort or it isnt. Being a landlord definitely is work/effort irrespective where in the market your properties are aimed at.

You say you were a "good one" ... all landlords do (I do/did, but I know some tenants of mine would say I wasn't I didn't roll over to them) - landlord-ing does make you the worst version of yourself.

I myself was a "good one" that got sick of it and cashed out my 11 properties (as I was tired of the trials and tribulations of the low end of the market, and) to build my current home, and am slowly rebuilding having rentals again, albeit a different market segment now.

Anyway, living under a roof, owned or otherwise, council.

cheesejunkie

641 posts

4 months

Sunday 19th March
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Alorotom said:
Never mind 2-faced, it's complete contradictory. It's either work/effort or it isnt. Being a landlord definitely is work/effort irrespective where in the market your properties are aimed at.

You say you were a "good one" ... all landlords do (I do/did, but I know some tenants of mine would say I wasn't I didn't roll over to them) - landlord-ing does make you the worst version of yourself.

I myself was a "good one" that got sick of it and cashed out my 11 properties (as I was tired of the trials and tribulations of the low end of the market, and) to build my current home, and am slowly rebuilding having rentals again, albeit a different market segment now.

Anyway, living under a roof, owned or otherwise, council.
No, it was an easy life. People pay me because I own something they’d like to own.

I listened to their complaints and dealt with them. I was under no obligation to do so. None.

If you’re going to try and tell me that landlords are hard done by saints looking after their spendthrift tenants I’m not going to take you very seriously. I know you’re not. I’ve already said the rapidity of some prepared to jump down my throat at the suggestion the game is rigged in favour of landlords has not changed my opinion that it would be a brave government to ps off landlords but it would be good for all if they did.

DodgyGeezer

35,098 posts

177 months

Sunday 19th March
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Arguing with strangers on the Internet - yup, council.


Anywho, also council is this...


pocketspring

2,390 posts

8 months

Sunday 19th March
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DodgyGeezer said:
Arguing with strangers on the Internet - yup, council.


Anywho, also council is this...

Certainly captures the essence of the day. hehe

CharlesdeGaulle

23,699 posts

167 months

Sunday 19th March
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Getting chippy about landlords. Council.

cheesejunkie

641 posts

4 months

Sunday 19th March
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Getting chippy about landlords. Council.
Thinking council is an insult? …

I am council and proud of it by the way, I’ve avoided replying to my question.

ben5575

5,419 posts

208 months

Sunday 19th March
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cheesejunkie said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Getting chippy about landlords. Council.
Thinking council is an insult? …

I am council and proud of it by the way, I’ve avoided replying to my question.
You're new here. You'll understand the ironic tone of the thread soon enough.

Being condescending; council

cheesejunkie

641 posts

4 months

Sunday 19th March
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ben5575 said:
cheesejunkie said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Getting chippy about landlords. Council.
Thinking council is an insult? …

I am council and proud of it by the way, I’ve avoided replying to my question.
You're new here. You'll understand the ironic tone of the thread soon enough.

Being condescending; council
Fairy nuff.

I’m joking but point me to the rah rah barbour thread and I’ll go studs forward lol.

DodgyGeezer

35,098 posts

177 months

Sunday 19th March
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ben5575 said:
Being condescending; council
and for clarity:

condescending
adj.

having or showing an attitude of patronizing superiority.
"she thought the teachers were arrogant and condescending"


in plainspeak "to talk down to"

hehe



cheesejunkie

641 posts

4 months

Sunday 19th March
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DodgyGeezer said:
ben5575 said:
Being condescending; council
and for clarity:

condescending
adj.

having or showing an attitude of patronizing superiority.
"she thought the teachers were arrogant and condescending"


in plainspeak "to talk down to"

hehe
Impressive levels of condescension. I see what you did there.

If we can’t have a laugh what’s the fking point, I admire your insincerity and will struggle to emulate it.


wolfracesonic

6,096 posts

114 months

Sunday 19th March
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Getting chippy about landlords. Council.
Chippies=Council….but yum never the less.

Jader1973

3,425 posts

187 months

Sunday 19th March
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Sway said:
Why is someone renting 'less fortunate' by definition?

I’d bet the people who can afford to rent the houses (there are 2 of them) near us that are up for $3k (so about £1.6k) per week each aren’t “less fortunate”!

Mind you the houses were built as part of a TV show, and are fking hideous, so they will definitely be council smile

cheesejunkie

641 posts

4 months

Sunday 19th March
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Jader1973 said:
Sway said:
Why is someone renting 'less fortunate' by definition?

I’d bet the people who can afford to rent the houses (there are 2 of them) near us that are up for $3k (so about £1.6k) per week each aren’t “less fortunate”!

Mind you the houses were built as part of a TV show, and are fking hideous, so they will definitely be council smile
And some fine young prick is earning three k a month by owning something he expunged no effort in doing so.

I know it’s an unfair system but ladder pullers are beneath contempt.