What is art to you?

[Roofless Toothless]

PlywoodPascal said:

thebraketester said:

I agree. Same can be said for music... what is music?

Music is easy to define:

Music is organised sound

Not necessarily ….

https://www.masterclass.com/articles/aleatoric-mus...

[dandarez]

PlywoodPascal said:

thebraketester said:

I agree. Same can be said for music... what is music?

Music is easy to define:

Music is organised sound

Nah, I think anyone can attest that there is plenty of 'music' which is far, in fact, bloody miles, from 'organised' sound!
Just like plenty of art is far from 'organised'.

Music is the same as Art - both are part of life.

I left school with my highest accolades in 'art', and my lowest in 'music'
My music teacher was an old git (end of school report) he gave me 'E- (that's minus!), Seems unable to grasp this kind of work.'
I love that! Oddly, I love music, just not his kind of music.

I ended up with a job (apprenticeship) sort of 'art'-connected, then moved to work in a 'art' environment, that included 'visual arts, music and publishing'.
Then left for a long solo career in book publishing.
Life, eh?

Eric Burdon (and the Animals) would agree... (well, on the music side) with their song 'Monterey' in 67.

'IF YOU WANT TO FIND THE TRUTH IN LIFE
DON'T PASS MUSIC BY...'

Edited by dandarez on Friday 12th July 22:34

[otolith]

Interesting discussion about music. My cards on the table - music is art. Whether it’s a trite advertising jingle or some impenetrable bit of jazz or some weird atonal thing. But I think a child’s drawing is art, and a doodle during a Teams call is art, and a piece by a renaissance master, or a handprint on a cave wall is art. How good or interesting it is is an entirely separate judgement. And likewise with music. it’s sound with intent.

[PlywoodPascal]

Roofless Toothless said:

Not necessarily ….

https://www.masterclass.com/articles/aleatoric-mus...

I consider that the performer is organising the sound in that instance…

[PlywoodPascal]

A few people seem to think I am using organised in a rigid, officious way,
I’m not… maybe ‘arranged’ is a better word?

The wind in the trees is not music
But sample the noise, play it back, and it becomes music (imo).
By the way, my definition means bird song is music, too. Perhaps even speech.



Music

Edited by PlywoodPascal on Saturday 13th July 09:22

[PlywoodPascal]

I’m listening to it now and it’s so fascinating and compelling, really recommend giving it the 45 minutes.

[thepritch]

I was listening to podcast recently where it was suggested as a experiment, test, or a way to learn patience was to go and sit in an art gallery, choose a painting or a sculpture and sit there and look.

Not for a few minutes, or an hour, but for 3 hours. To just look at one painting without interruption - no phones no distractions. The idea is you will find it very uncomfortable but after a while you’ll see things in depth, detail and clarity. But will also teach you how to just be and appreciate time without being productive.

I’m a very patient person and this really appeals and my wife and I have agreed we will go and do this later this summer.

How many of you have ever spent more than 5 minutes looking at a piece of visual art?

[Biker's Nemesis]

A local man in his 80's has painted since he was a boy, Alan Dickson an ex Coal Miner.

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Alan Dickson on the Right as a young Boy.

Edited by Biker's Nemesis on Saturday 13th July 12:20

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Alan Dickson.

The way it was, a tin bath in front of the fire,
Weshed before dinner, and a few oors peace before getting dorty again
the morn,

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Alan Dickson.

Far from the madding crowd,
Probably my last painting Dave, the eyes are aboot knackered now,

[Regbuser]

I like a lot of what Marc Quinn does

Edited by Regbuser on Saturday 13th July 13:20

[Jim H]

Hmmmmm?

Gilles banging wheels with Rene - Dijon ‘79.

Glorious.

Captured exactly by Arthur Benjamins

Or Gilles with a bit of puncture heading back to the pits at speed.

The crowd in are looking at one thing.

[Shermanator]

judas said:

I get that this is your opinion, but I still find it baffling. Why can't you accept that it's art, but you just don't like? What negates it as art just because you don't like it? At the risk going all reductio ad absurdum, an ugly house is still a house - should art be any different?

I'm not disputing it isn't art to others, but it isn't art to me as an individual.

[Shermanator]

PlywoodPascal said:

I think this doesn’t make much sense really….
You can see how ridiculous it is as a position if you transfer it to other forms of art…

A play that I don’t like isn’t theatre
Music I dislike is not music

Etc etc

A play is still a play, whether I like it or not. Whether something is a play is not subjective. Same with another poster regarding ugly houses. What art (in the sense of sculptures, paintings, doodles etc) is, is subjective. I admit I had forgotten to take into consideration that "the arts (acting etc)" are all art and was only thinking (and this asking) about the sort of thing you would see in a gallery.