Wegovy Anti-chubster injection-pen things

[Dbag101]

StoutBench said:

What are you looking to achieve here? Genuinely interested in this.

Maybe pique an interest in the ( hitherto under rated) importance of gut health on the whole equation. It’s a bit on the quiet side right now, but I can see the merits.

[LeftmostAardvark]

StoutBench said:

What are you looking to achieve here? Genuinely interested in this.

Maybe they’re worried that when we get thin, we’ll be more of a threat to their jobs, girlfriends, clothes sizes in sales, or maybe it’ll push the price of Caterhams up because more people will be able to fit in them.

Or maybe they’re worried that when we get to our target weight and come off it, we’ll be so hungry, we’ll want to eat them?

Or perhaps, some people just like to try to piss on people’s chips (which won’t work, because none of us have any cravings for chips any more)

[Dbag101]

LeftmostAardvark said:

Maybe they’re worried that when we get thin, we’ll be more of a threat to their jobs, girlfriends, clothes sizes in sales, or maybe it’ll push the price of Caterhams up because more people will be able to fit in them.

Or maybe they’re worried that when we get to our target weight and come off it, we’ll be so hungry, we’ll want to eat them?

Or perhaps, some people just like to try to piss on people’s chips (which won’t work, because none of us have any cravings for chips any more)

You’re overthinking this, I think.

[StoutBench]

Dbag101 said:

StoutBench said:

What are you looking to achieve here? Genuinely interested in this.

Maybe pique an interest in the ( hitherto under rated) importance of gut health on the whole equation. It’s a bit on the quiet side right now, but I can see the merits.

But is this really the right thread? Surely in the general health forum would be better and get a better mix of opinions and inputs.

[smifffymoto]

Yes,as a nation we should be smaller around the waist and we should achieve it by any means possible (within reason).

I have 2 slim brother in laws who think they are healthier than me,of the 3 of us,I’m the only one not on blood pressure medication and doesn’t drink everyday day to cope with stress.

Just being slim isn’t the answer but it’s a start.

[Dbag101]

StoutBench said:

But is this really the right thread? Surely in the general health forum would be better and get a better mix of opinions and inputs.

I think it may be worthy of a new thread actually.

[David A]

I have a few questions on the mounjaro:

- is the weight loss steady or does it start fast & slow down or vice versa or just a straight line?
- do you have to do a consultation/online application every 4 weeks or does the prescription just repeat - how do you ramp it up to the higher doses?
- any recommendations for the cheapest (and safest i.e. not dodgy !) online places?

[pavarotti1980]

For those considering this, NICE are due to publish guidance for tirzepatide for managing overweight and obesity in December so it will be available on the NHS. The only thing up in the air is how access to the drug will be managed. Presently Wegovy has to be accessed via a tier 3 weight management service in hospital which are limited. This may be different as the cohort of eligible patients (high BMI + plus additional co-morbidity) , is much greater and would drown secondary care so it could be accessible via the GP.......a big could

[Mr Pointy]

pavarotti1980 said:

For those considering this, NICE are due to publish guidance for tirzepatide for managing overweight and obesity in December so it will be available on the NHS. The only thing up in the air is how access to the drug will be managed. Presently Wegovy has to be accessed via a tier 3 weight management service in hospital which are limited. This may be different as the cohort of eligible patients (high BMI + plus additional co-morbidity) , is much greater and would drown secondary care so it could be accessible via the GP.......a big could

I wonder what the NHS pay for Mounjaro - £200 a month or substantially less?

[pavarotti1980]

Mr Pointy said:

I wonder what the NHS pay for Mounjaro - £200 a month or substantially less?

Its a lot less https://bnf.nice.org.uk/drugs/tirzepatide/medicina...
The list prices are on there, but it will be less than that as part of a confidential access price

Edited by pavarotti1980 on Monday 18th November 10:30

[mattyn1]

David A said:

I have a few questions on the mounjaro:

- is the weight loss steady or does it start fast & slow down or vice versa or just a straight line?
- do you have to do a consultation/online application every 4 weeks or does the prescription just repeat - how do you ramp it up to the higher doses?
- any recommendations for the cheapest (and safest i.e. not dodgy !) online places?

David. I seem to have plateaued a bit… and seem to be craving more each week and am on the highest dose. That craving might be stress related as work is a bit mental at the moment. Have lost just a snip over 15kgs since end August, but only a few kgs since middle of October.

I get a call from AP each month to see how I am and to confirm delivery date of the next batch. That’s followed by a call from the GP… so monthly interaction.

Having a determined week this week to be good! I have a target for 20 Dec to allow me treats over Xmas… then a further target for 1 May.

[LeftmostAardvark]

David A said:

I have a few questions on the mounjaro:

- is the weight loss steady or does it start fast & slow down or vice versa or just a straight line?
- do you have to do a consultation/online application every 4 weeks or does the prescription just repeat - how do you ramp it up to the higher doses?
- any recommendations for the cheapest (and safest i.e. not dodgy !) online places?

It generally starts fast, and slows down over time.

This looks to be fairly accurate as a profile (the shape of the graph, not necessarily the numbers)




I have to reorder and go through key questions each month online. I believe after a certain period of time (few months?) you may need to do an update photo so the provider can verify what you’re putting on the form.

I’ve heard the following are cheap: iqdoctor, medexpress, voy. Most places have an initial discount code and then an ongoing code. I use pharmacy2u and they have a £40 first fee code and then send out a £20 off flyer in each pack. Not the cheapest, but feels quality and safe to me (your experience may vary).

[Junglebert]

I just took my second shot of Mounjaro, I’ve lost about 6 pounds in the first week. I’m the same as a few on here, active, and reasonably fit, but always hungry and unable to resist food, so I’m probably about 4 stone over where I’d like to be.
My wife has been on it for a a few months, and lost a couple of stone, she’s very happy with it. But I was sceptical it’d work for me, as she and I don’t have the same relationship with food. I’m sick of exercising a lot, but not losing any weight, and I’ve been impressed and encouraged by some of the posts on here from people who sounded like they were in the same position as me. Over the last week I’ve eaten well, still cook every night, still eat tasty food, but have much much smaller portions, and very small if any lunches. And I never snack, it just doesn’t occur to me to snack.

So thanks to all here that have posted their positive stories, I wouldn’t have started taking it had I not seen those posts.

[John87]

I've just moved onto 5mg having lost 12.5lbs so far. For the first time I have had side effects of "sulphur burps" the entirety of the next day. Has anyone found a good way to combat these? It may have been caused by me eating something too greasy so I hope it isn't going to happen every time now. My wife and kids wouldn't sit near me since I was essentially farting out my mouth all day

[LeftmostAardvark]

John87 said:

I've just moved onto 5mg having lost 12.5lbs so far. For the first time I have had side effects of "sulphur burps" the entirety of the next day. Has anyone found a good way to combat these? It may have been caused by me eating something too greasy so I hope it isn't going to happen every time now. My wife and kids wouldn't sit near me since I was essentially farting out my mouth all day

I think it might be a side effect of what you eat. Part of silencing my ‘food noise’ was having my brain want different foods, so I’ve leaned into that hard and I’m now only going for salads, chicken, fruit and nuts and I’ve been side effect free.

Edited by LeftmostAardvark on Monday 18th November 18:10

[Yahonza]

It (GLP-1) works in part by slowing down gut transit/gastric emptying, so the slow moving stuff moves even slower.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3124003/ - Figure 3 shows this.

Edited by Yahonza on Monday 18th November 18:27

[John87]

Thanks I'll stay on the leaner meats next time to see if it makes a difference. I have been eating much better food than previously and haven't touched beer or snacks etc.

My issue was that I've been keeping this a secret from family as they are very judgemental and the in laws brought a surprise kebab on Saturday which would be too suspicious to turn down. I only managed a fraction of it but suspected that it wouldn't be a good idea at the time.

[LeftmostAardvark]

John87 said:

Thanks I'll stay on the leaner meats next time to see if it makes a difference. I have been eating much better food than previously and haven't touched beer or snacks etc.

My issue was that I've been keeping this a secret from family as they are very judgemental and the in laws brought a surprise kebab on Saturday which would be too suspicious to turn down. I only managed a fraction of it but suspected that it wouldn't be a good idea at the time.

It’s insane that the hardest part of this is having to constantly keep it secret, defend it from other people. Keep going, it’s not cheating (it’s not a competition), it’s not for anyone else and who gives a flying fk what anyone else thinks anyway.

[arbit]

I've been on Mounjaro for 8 weeks now, have lost 14kg. I am on a strict diet with high protein intake and exercise 3 times a week. Have had a shoulder injury so back to only cardio for now. I used to be big into weight lifting and have lost a similar amount of weight prior when I started lifting again after a long break and on a strict diet - this time it's a lot easier though.

I've done the 2.5mg dose initially and now the 5mg dose and have decided to stick to just 5mg for the next cycle but it's definitely becoming a lot less effective. Food noise/stress-related eating are my problem so the hardest thing will be once I am at my desired weight (I guess it will be 6-8 weeks away, about 8kg less) to slowly reduce the dose and to finally get rid of it as I don't fancy being a life long user of this.

To me it's just a tool to reset my body to what is a healthy body fat percentage. There are lots of physiological effects happening where lower body fat makes it easier to not gain weight (assuming the recommended 10-15% range).

People who give the notion that this is "cheating" annoy me but they usually just don't understand what it's like to constantly have the desire to eat and to get unhealthy cravings. It's simply a complete lack of empathy - what an enormous surprise in the society we live in.

[craigthecoupe]

arbit said:

People who give the notion that this is "cheating" annoy me but they usually just don't understand what it's like to constantly have the desire to eat and to get unhealthy cravings. It's simply a complete lack of empathy - what an enormous surprise in the society we live in.

How about the constant desire to drink? how does society view addiction? The desire to take drugs to escape? Smoking.....
Your drug of choice is food, which is absolutely fine, but don't paint yourself as a victim.

Despite this being a challenging comment, I mean no disrespect, and I've no interest in fighting.
How do you feel society should view such a situation?