How long till the £20k Evora?
Discussion
Well I have had quite a lot of interest in my Evora that's up for £20k and just some feedback to keep you up to date. Most people seem to be asking about the clutch which I know is an expensive item to change but Jonny from Performance Autocare who's service the car since 2015 is adamant that its not worth changing for the sake of it and the history of long haul motorway trips and not been tracked or driven by lead footed racers dictates that it should be good for thousands of miles . His words not mine.
I have driven a much newer Evora S (see previous message from Andy regarding our drive down to Monte Negro from Harrogate in a a newish Evora S) which had a much clunkier gear change and a heavier clutch than mine at 101,700 miles. Don't know whether its luck or just that mines been driven with more mechanical empathy. One thing I'd say about both cars is they didn't particularly like rapid gear changes but you would be rewarded with a greater driving experience by driving smoothly and slotting through the gear box at the optimum revs. I'm probably stating the obvious but its even more true with the Evora's than any other car I've driven.
Sorry I've drifted off the point but I'm looking at options and carrying out a full service at the end of September and running it for another 12 months. Interested to see what value it will be at the end of the year with 112,000 on the clock. How much lower than £20k will it fall. Also do we think the prices will bottom out at some point at say 15k. Interesting to know your thoughts on what seems to be a topic that keeps arousing interest.
I have driven a much newer Evora S (see previous message from Andy regarding our drive down to Monte Negro from Harrogate in a a newish Evora S) which had a much clunkier gear change and a heavier clutch than mine at 101,700 miles. Don't know whether its luck or just that mines been driven with more mechanical empathy. One thing I'd say about both cars is they didn't particularly like rapid gear changes but you would be rewarded with a greater driving experience by driving smoothly and slotting through the gear box at the optimum revs. I'm probably stating the obvious but its even more true with the Evora's than any other car I've driven.
Sorry I've drifted off the point but I'm looking at options and carrying out a full service at the end of September and running it for another 12 months. Interested to see what value it will be at the end of the year with 112,000 on the clock. How much lower than £20k will it fall. Also do we think the prices will bottom out at some point at say 15k. Interesting to know your thoughts on what seems to be a topic that keeps arousing interest.
madmarkb said:
Well I have had quite a lot of interest in my Evora that's up for £20k and just some feedback to keep you up to date. Most people seem to be asking about the clutch which I know is an expensive item to change but Jonny from Performance Autocare who's service the car since 2015 is adamant that its not worth changing for the sake of it and the history of long haul motorway trips and not been tracked or driven by lead footed racers dictates that it should be good for thousands of miles . His words not mine.
I have driven a much newer Evora S (see previous message from Andy regarding our drive down to Monte Negro from Harrogate in a a newish Evora S) which had a much clunkier gear change and a heavier clutch than mine at 101,700 miles. Don't know whether its luck or just that mines been driven with more mechanical empathy. One thing I'd say about both cars is they didn't particularly like rapid gear changes but you would be rewarded with a greater driving experience by driving smoothly and slotting through the gear box at the optimum revs. I'm probably stating the obvious but its even more true with the Evora's than any other car I've driven.
Sorry I've drifted off the point but I'm looking at options and carrying out a full service at the end of September and running it for another 12 months. Interested to see what value it will be at the end of the year with 112,000 on the clock. How much lower than £20k will it fall. Also do we think the prices will bottom out at some point at say 15k. Interesting to know your thoughts on what seems to be a topic that keeps arousing interest.
Assuming it is on it's second clutch @ 101k? If it has done 101k on the original one then wow! must be some sort of record, and makes a mockery of the clutch being a weak point on earlier cars! GLWS I have driven a much newer Evora S (see previous message from Andy regarding our drive down to Monte Negro from Harrogate in a a newish Evora S) which had a much clunkier gear change and a heavier clutch than mine at 101,700 miles. Don't know whether its luck or just that mines been driven with more mechanical empathy. One thing I'd say about both cars is they didn't particularly like rapid gear changes but you would be rewarded with a greater driving experience by driving smoothly and slotting through the gear box at the optimum revs. I'm probably stating the obvious but its even more true with the Evora's than any other car I've driven.
Sorry I've drifted off the point but I'm looking at options and carrying out a full service at the end of September and running it for another 12 months. Interested to see what value it will be at the end of the year with 112,000 on the clock. How much lower than £20k will it fall. Also do we think the prices will bottom out at some point at say 15k. Interesting to know your thoughts on what seems to be a topic that keeps arousing interest.
Update:
Sales
- £26,500, 2012, Black on black 2+2 private seller seems to have gone over the weekend, had been on sale (off and on) for at least three months despite being a nicely looked after example with 2bular exhaust.
New ads
- £24,750, 59 plate, Ardent Red w. black leather, 2+0, 58.4k miles, private seller on ebay. Sport & tech pack
Price drops
- none
Sales
- £26,500, 2012, Black on black 2+2 private seller seems to have gone over the weekend, had been on sale (off and on) for at least three months despite being a nicely looked after example with 2bular exhaust.
New ads
- £24,750, 59 plate, Ardent Red w. black leather, 2+0, 58.4k miles, private seller on ebay. Sport & tech pack
Price drops
- none
madmarkb said:
adamant that its not worth changing for the sake of it and the history of long haul motorway trips and not been tracked or driven by lead footed racers dictates that it should be good for thousands of miles .
What are you trying to say? To be fair my original S (AU60 EHW in case anyone owns it now) was originally a Marketing fleet car that had a lot of track use, I did a couple of track days with it too.
I also did a lot of motorway miles in it but it had covered nearly 60k when I sold it and the clutch was still fine.
To be honest I think a lot of bad press came from dodgy actuation on the early cars which then in turn shortened the life of the clutches
I think, and it’s only an opinion, the only real negative effect from track use might be that the gesrshift became more baulky, even with the MY12 cables I had done on the S as a condition of purchase it was a bit grumpy going 2nd to 3rd in a rush on a hot day. My non-S Sports Racer (which has done the rounds on here now ) was never used on track and the gearshift was absolutely sweet, the best I’d experienced on an Evora and I’ve driven a LOT of them.
hyphen said:
Very surprised it hasn't sold at £20k. Imagine it being August with people on holiday/broke from holidays being a factor, along with covid.
I think it is the mileage plus the clutch that is why this hasn't sold. There were a few cars with half the mileage up for 23k recently so people in the market have probably gone for those instead. Not that a 100k Evora should be a worry with the toyota engine but you know people get funny about cars over 100k and ease of resale may be a factor as well. seems to be quite a few 2-0's coming up for sale recently. I imagine they we harder to shift also?saaby93 said:
Nice review here
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/lotus/evora/ve...
It's a strange review. Why compare a 2+2 to an Elise and Exige?https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/lotus/evora/ve...
And then the Elise is a soft top, the Exige is more hardcore looking and so on. They serve different needs and target customers.
Saying "Elise is £30k cheaper" doesn't mean anything.
Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 2nd September 11:45
hyphen said:
It's a strange review. Why compare a 2+2 to an Elise and Exige?
And then the Elise is a soft top, the Exige is more hardcore looking and so on. They serve different needs and target customers.
Saying "Elise is £30k cheaper" doesn't mean anything.
it is true, they would never write that about any other manufacturer. but it's my current thought process!And then the Elise is a soft top, the Exige is more hardcore looking and so on. They serve different needs and target customers.
Saying "Elise is £30k cheaper" doesn't mean anything.
Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 2nd September 11:45
i've had my Elise for 8 years. best driver's car for the road imo.
recently got an Evora S and continually mulling over future plans. i had to do the Evora thing in part because i have a fleet of 4 cyl driving cars, so it would be rude not to sample ownership of a properly powerful beast. loving the Evora, it really is a class act. But for me the Elise wins out and when i want to go long distance touring i really want more space, comfort and better mpg! that 'criticism' is personal and also applies to all similar cars - Porsche, Jag whatever. nothing is as visceral as the Elise, and on longer journeys i want more than any sports GT can offer. So eventually (i'm in no rush!) i'll get a Lexus. My thoughts then swing to keeping my nasp Elise or a later 220 for a power upgrade. Any serious enthusiast should have an Evora at some point, it's seminal.
i think the journalist sees all Lotus as "fun car not a daily" and hence his pigeon-holing comments. you could argue that Porsche don't offer a proper lightweight sports car and criticise that, it would be fair.
CABC said:
hyphen said:
It's a strange review. Why compare a 2+2 to an Elise and Exige?
And then the Elise is a soft top, the Exige is more hardcore looking and so on. They serve different needs and target customers.
Saying "Elise is £30k cheaper" doesn't mean anything.
it is true, they would never write that about any other manufacturer. but it's my current thought process!And then the Elise is a soft top, the Exige is more hardcore looking and so on. They serve different needs and target customers.
Saying "Elise is £30k cheaper" doesn't mean anything.
Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 2nd September 11:45
i've had my Elise for 8 years. best driver's car for the road imo.
recently got an Evora S and continually mulling over future plans. i had to do the Evora thing in part because i have a fleet of 4 cyl driving cars, so it would be rude not to sample ownership of a properly powerful beast. loving the Evora, it really is a class act. But for me the Elise wins out and when i want to go long distance touring i really want more space, comfort and better mpg! that 'criticism' is personal and also applies to all similar cars - Porsche, Jag whatever. nothing is as visceral as the Elise, and on longer journeys i want more than any sports GT can offer. So eventually (i'm in no rush!) i'll get a Lexus. My thoughts then swing to keeping my nasp Elise or a later 220 for a power upgrade. Any serious enthusiast should have an Evora at some point, it's seminal.
i think the journalist sees all Lotus as "fun car not a daily" and hence his pigeon-holing comments. you could argue that Porsche don't offer a proper lightweight sports car and criticise that, it would be fair.
where is the Evora convertible and when are they going to drop in the Camry hybrid setup?
The Wookie said:
What are you trying to say?
To be fair my original S (AU60 EHW in case anyone owns it now) was originally a Marketing fleet car that had a lot of track use, I did a couple of track days with it too.
I also did a lot of motorway miles in it but it had covered nearly 60k when I sold it and the clutch was still fine.
To be honest I think a lot of bad press came from dodgy actuation on the early cars which then in turn shortened the life of the clutches
I think, and it’s only an opinion, the only real negative effect from track use might be that the gesrshift became more baulky, even with the MY12 cables I had done on the S as a condition of purchase it was a bit grumpy going 2nd to 3rd in a rush on a hot day. My non-S Sports Racer (which has done the rounds on here now ) was never used on track and the gearshift was absolutely sweet, the best I’d experienced on an Evora and I’ve driven a LOT of them.
It's not doing any more rounds for a while I tell thee. Here it is next to some dodgy German thing.To be fair my original S (AU60 EHW in case anyone owns it now) was originally a Marketing fleet car that had a lot of track use, I did a couple of track days with it too.
I also did a lot of motorway miles in it but it had covered nearly 60k when I sold it and the clutch was still fine.
To be honest I think a lot of bad press came from dodgy actuation on the early cars which then in turn shortened the life of the clutches
I think, and it’s only an opinion, the only real negative effect from track use might be that the gesrshift became more baulky, even with the MY12 cables I had done on the S as a condition of purchase it was a bit grumpy going 2nd to 3rd in a rush on a hot day. My non-S Sports Racer (which has done the rounds on here now ) was never used on track and the gearshift was absolutely sweet, the best I’d experienced on an Evora and I’ve driven a LOT of them.
Update for the weekend, just a coupl eof price drops:
- £28,000 to 27,000 for the Solar Yellow 2+0, on sale for just over three weeks. This car is unusual in that it is being advertised on almost every sale site - PH, autotrader, ebay, gumtree and facebook... combined with the price drop, signs of an urgent/eager seller? Originally advertised at 28.5, with clutch done this year, sport & tech packs plus a sports exhaust, someone might be able to get a bargain here.
- £27,750 to 26,499 for the Aspen White 2+0 with mods, which has only been on sale for a couple of weeks.
- £28,000 to 27,000 for the Solar Yellow 2+0, on sale for just over three weeks. This car is unusual in that it is being advertised on almost every sale site - PH, autotrader, ebay, gumtree and facebook... combined with the price drop, signs of an urgent/eager seller? Originally advertised at 28.5, with clutch done this year, sport & tech packs plus a sports exhaust, someone might be able to get a bargain here.
- £27,750 to 26,499 for the Aspen White 2+0 with mods, which has only been on sale for a couple of weeks.
Update
Sales
- The £19,999 ad has come down... we maybe have our sub-20K sale finally!
- £26,650, black on black car at Sutton, been on sale for 200 days
- £30,995, black on black at Nuneaton
Price drop
- Black on Black "EV04ORA" private sale on sale for about a month, has gone from £28,500 to £27,500
New ads
- None
Sales
- The £19,999 ad has come down... we maybe have our sub-20K sale finally!
- £26,650, black on black car at Sutton, been on sale for 200 days
- £30,995, black on black at Nuneaton
Price drop
- Black on Black "EV04ORA" private sale on sale for about a month, has gone from £28,500 to £27,500
New ads
- None
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