How long till the Β£20k Evora?

How long till the Β£20k Evora?

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madmarkb

19 posts

96 months

Friday 28th August
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Well I have had quite a lot of interest in my Evora that's up for £20k and just some feedback to keep you up to date. Most people seem to be asking about the clutch which I know is an expensive item to change but Jonny from Performance Autocare who's service the car since 2015 is adamant that its not worth changing for the sake of it and the history of long haul motorway trips and not been tracked or driven by lead footed racers dictates that it should be good for thousands of miles . His words not mine.
I have driven a much newer Evora S (see previous message from Andy regarding our drive down to Monte Negro from Harrogate in a a newish Evora S) which had a much clunkier gear change and a heavier clutch than mine at 101,700 miles. Don't know whether its luck or just that mines been driven with more mechanical empathy. One thing I'd say about both cars is they didn't particularly like rapid gear changes but you would be rewarded with a greater driving experience by driving smoothly and slotting through the gear box at the optimum revs. I'm probably stating the obvious but its even more true with the Evora's than any other car I've driven.
Sorry I've drifted off the point but I'm looking at options and carrying out a full service at the end of September and running it for another 12 months. Interested to see what value it will be at the end of the year with 112,000 on the clock. How much lower than £20k will it fall. Also do we think the prices will bottom out at some point at say 15k. Interesting to know your thoughts on what seems to be a topic that keeps arousing interest.

paul n

141 posts

127 months

Sunday 30th August
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madmarkb said:
Well I have had quite a lot of interest in my Evora that's up for £20k and just some feedback to keep you up to date. Most people seem to be asking about the clutch which I know is an expensive item to change but Jonny from Performance Autocare who's service the car since 2015 is adamant that its not worth changing for the sake of it and the history of long haul motorway trips and not been tracked or driven by lead footed racers dictates that it should be good for thousands of miles . His words not mine.
I have driven a much newer Evora S (see previous message from Andy regarding our drive down to Monte Negro from Harrogate in a a newish Evora S) which had a much clunkier gear change and a heavier clutch than mine at 101,700 miles. Don't know whether its luck or just that mines been driven with more mechanical empathy. One thing I'd say about both cars is they didn't particularly like rapid gear changes but you would be rewarded with a greater driving experience by driving smoothly and slotting through the gear box at the optimum revs. I'm probably stating the obvious but its even more true with the Evora's than any other car I've driven.
Sorry I've drifted off the point but I'm looking at options and carrying out a full service at the end of September and running it for another 12 months. Interested to see what value it will be at the end of the year with 112,000 on the clock. How much lower than £20k will it fall. Also do we think the prices will bottom out at some point at say 15k. Interesting to know your thoughts on what seems to be a topic that keeps arousing interest.
Assuming it is on it's second clutch @ 101k? If it has done 101k on the original one then wow! must be some sort of record, and makes a mockery of the clutch being a weak point on earlier cars! GLWS smile

hyphen

17,087 posts

48 months

Sunday 30th August
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Very surprised it hasn't sold at £20k. Imagine it being August with people on holiday/broke from holidays being a factor, along with covid.

TdM-GTV

117 posts

175 months

Sunday 30th August
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Yeah at 20k just buy it and fix the clutch when it goes!

Maybe you should have priced a coupe of grand up at 22k and knocked that off when people asked about the clutch. May work better for you (as long as they aren't reading this) and is perfectly fair.

Ryvita

592 posts

168 months

Tuesday 1st September
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Update:

Sales
- £26,500, 2012, Black on black 2+2 private seller seems to have gone over the weekend, had been on sale (off and on) for at least three months despite being a nicely looked after example with 2bular exhaust.

New ads
- £24,750, 59 plate, Ardent Red w. black leather, 2+0, 58.4k miles, private seller on ebay. Sport & tech pack

Price drops
- none

The Wookie

12,260 posts

186 months

Tuesday 1st September
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madmarkb said:
adamant that its not worth changing for the sake of it and the history of long haul motorway trips and not been tracked or driven by lead footed racers dictates that it should be good for thousands of miles .
What are you trying to say? hehe

To be fair my original S (AU60 EHW in case anyone owns it now) was originally a Marketing fleet car that had a lot of track use, I did a couple of track days with it too.

I also did a lot of motorway miles in it but it had covered nearly 60k when I sold it and the clutch was still fine.

To be honest I think a lot of bad press came from dodgy actuation on the early cars which then in turn shortened the life of the clutches

I think, and it’s only an opinion, the only real negative effect from track use might be that the gesrshift became more baulky, even with the MY12 cables I had done on the S as a condition of purchase it was a bit grumpy going 2nd to 3rd in a rush on a hot day. My non-S Sports Racer (which has done the rounds on here now hehe) was never used on track and the gearshift was absolutely sweet, the best I’d experienced on an Evora and I’ve driven a LOT of them.

saaby93

27,023 posts

136 months

paul n

141 posts

127 months

Wednesday 2nd September
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hyphen said:
Very surprised it hasn't sold at £20k. Imagine it being August with people on holiday/broke from holidays being a factor, along with covid.
I think it is the mileage plus the clutch that is why this hasn't sold. There were a few cars with half the mileage up for 23k recently so people in the market have probably gone for those instead. Not that a 100k Evora should be a worry with the toyota engine but you know people get funny about cars over 100k and ease of resale may be a factor as well. seems to be quite a few 2-0's coming up for sale recently. I imagine they we harder to shift also?


saaby93

27,023 posts

136 months

Wednesday 2nd September
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It's not clear what percentages of clutches failed, but surely if the ones that were going to fail, have done so and been replaced??

hyphen

17,087 posts

48 months

Wednesday 2nd September
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saaby93 said:
It's a strange review. Why compare a 2+2 to an Elise and Exige?

And then the Elise is a soft top, the Exige is more hardcore looking and so on. They serve different needs and target customers.

Saying "Elise is £30k cheaper" doesn't mean anything.

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 2nd September 11:45

CABC

3,635 posts

59 months

Wednesday 2nd September
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hyphen said:
It's a strange review. Why compare a 2+2 to an Elise and Exige?

And then the Elise is a soft top, the Exige is more hardcore looking and so on. They serve different needs and target customers.

Saying "Elise is £30k cheaper" doesn't mean anything.

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 2nd September 11:45
it is true, they would never write that about any other manufacturer. but it's my current thought process!
i've had my Elise for 8 years. best driver's car for the road imo.
recently got an Evora S and continually mulling over future plans. i had to do the Evora thing in part because i have a fleet of 4 cyl driving cars, so it would be rude not to sample ownership of a properly powerful beast. loving the Evora, it really is a class act. But for me the Elise wins out and when i want to go long distance touring i really want more space, comfort and better mpg! that 'criticism' is personal and also applies to all similar cars - Porsche, Jag whatever. nothing is as visceral as the Elise, and on longer journeys i want more than any sports GT can offer. So eventually (i'm in no rush!) i'll get a Lexus. My thoughts then swing to keeping my nasp Elise or a later 220 for a power upgrade. Any serious enthusiast should have an Evora at some point, it's seminal.

i think the journalist sees all Lotus as "fun car not a daily" and hence his pigeon-holing comments. you could argue that Porsche don't offer a proper lightweight sports car and criticise that, it would be fair.



saaby93

27,023 posts

136 months

Wednesday 2nd September
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CABC said:
hyphen said:
It's a strange review. Why compare a 2+2 to an Elise and Exige?

And then the Elise is a soft top, the Exige is more hardcore looking and so on. They serve different needs and target customers.

Saying "Elise is £30k cheaper" doesn't mean anything.

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 2nd September 11:45
it is true, they would never write that about any other manufacturer. but it's my current thought process!
i've had my Elise for 8 years. best driver's car for the road imo.
recently got an Evora S and continually mulling over future plans. i had to do the Evora thing in part because i have a fleet of 4 cyl driving cars, so it would be rude not to sample ownership of a properly powerful beast. loving the Evora, it really is a class act. But for me the Elise wins out and when i want to go long distance touring i really want more space, comfort and better mpg! that 'criticism' is personal and also applies to all similar cars - Porsche, Jag whatever. nothing is as visceral as the Elise, and on longer journeys i want more than any sports GT can offer. So eventually (i'm in no rush!) i'll get a Lexus. My thoughts then swing to keeping my nasp Elise or a later 220 for a power upgrade. Any serious enthusiast should have an Evora at some point, it's seminal.

i think the journalist sees all Lotus as "fun car not a daily" and hence his pigeon-holing comments. you could argue that Porsche don't offer a proper lightweight sports car and criticise that, it would be fair.
Have lotus stopped development since the french guy left?
where is the Evora convertible and when are they going to drop in the Camry hybrid setup?

Lotobear

2,418 posts

86 months

Wednesday 2nd September
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saaby93 said:
ave lotus stopped development since the french guy left?
where is the Evora convertible and when are they going to drop in the Camry hybrid setup?
Lotus are owned by Geely now so have access to Volvo powertrains and so I would not expect to see many more Toyota set ups.

TdM-GTV

117 posts

175 months

Friday 4th September
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The Wookie said:
What are you trying to say? hehe

To be fair my original S (AU60 EHW in case anyone owns it now) was originally a Marketing fleet car that had a lot of track use, I did a couple of track days with it too.

I also did a lot of motorway miles in it but it had covered nearly 60k when I sold it and the clutch was still fine.

To be honest I think a lot of bad press came from dodgy actuation on the early cars which then in turn shortened the life of the clutches

I think, and it’s only an opinion, the only real negative effect from track use might be that the gesrshift became more baulky, even with the MY12 cables I had done on the S as a condition of purchase it was a bit grumpy going 2nd to 3rd in a rush on a hot day. My non-S Sports Racer (which has done the rounds on here now hehe) was never used on track and the gearshift was absolutely sweet, the best I’d experienced on an Evora and I’ve driven a LOT of them.
It's not doing any more rounds for a while I tell thee. Here it is next to some dodgy German thing.


Ryvita

592 posts

168 months

Saturday 5th September
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Update for the weekend, just a coupl eof price drops:

- £28,000 to 27,000 for the Solar Yellow 2+0, on sale for just over three weeks. This car is unusual in that it is being advertised on almost every sale site - PH, autotrader, ebay, gumtree and facebook... combined with the price drop, signs of an urgent/eager seller? Originally advertised at 28.5, with clutch done this year, sport & tech packs plus a sports exhaust, someone might be able to get a bargain here.
- £27,750 to 26,499 for the Aspen White 2+0 with mods, which has only been on sale for a couple of weeks.

Ryvita

592 posts

168 months

Thursday 10th September
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Update

Sales
- The £19,999 ad has come down... we maybe have our sub-20K sale finally!
- £26,650, black on black car at Sutton, been on sale for 200 days
- £30,995, black on black at Nuneaton

Price drop
- Black on Black "EV04ORA" private sale on sale for about a month, has gone from £28,500 to £27,500

New ads
- None

giveitfish

Original Poster:

3,422 posts

172 months

Thursday 10th September
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Forget the £20k Evora, Maserati have just launched the £200k Evora wink




hyphen

17,087 posts

48 months

Thursday 10th September
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giveitfish said:
Forget the £20k Evora, Maserati have just launched the £200k Evora wink
Not a 2+2 wink

Niiige

632 posts

127 months

Friday 11th September
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What do we think in the “Evora’verse” (like universe, but Evora shaped)

Will values be adversely affected by Covid related uncertainty, job losses etc? And Will they be affected by winter ?

I ask from a potential buyer perspective (sadly at the bottom end of the market)

hyphen

17,087 posts

48 months

Friday 11th September
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The government can't let the country go to pot on a mass scale. It just doesn't work like that.

They will come out with schemes (i.e. load us with more long term debt) and create jobs.