430 v GT140

430 v GT140

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BertBert

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15,195 posts

178 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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Right, thanks all for answers to my previous questions on here. I am shockingly indecisive with cars, but I get there eventually! However, I have moved forward a bit with the sale of my GT3, leaving a lonely space in the garage. I think it's going to be filled with an Evora and the current default is a GT410 such as the one at B&C with the lovely tan interior https://www.bellandcolvill.co.uk/all-used-cars/lot... I only need mild man-maths to get to the mid-60's price (or possibly lower mid-60's with a spot of discount and shopping around).

But then there's the 430 which would require a more substantial bit of man-maths and there aren't that many of them about. Anyone got experience or views on where the 430 would be better than the 410?

Cheers
Bert

Sumsion

277 posts

139 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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Does my GT410SPORT IPS in racing green and tan interior interest you ? At Lotus Silverstone . I was advised not to buy a 430 if the car was for road use only

CTE

1,395 posts

207 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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I was advised something similar by my local Lotus dealer and am more than happy with my GT410 sport...

BertBert

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15,195 posts

178 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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Sumsion said:
Does my GT410SPORT IPS in racing green and tan interior interest you ? At Lotus Silverstone . I was advised not to buy a 430 if the car was for road use only
It looks lovely, but I'm looking for a manual thanks.
CTE said:
I was advised something similar by my local Lotus dealer and am more than happy with my GT410 sport...
Interesting about the 430 not being the right one for the road. Hadn't really contemplated that but that certainly wouldn't be appealing!
Cheers
Bert


SFTWend

318 posts

42 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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Coming from a GT3 RS you might have a different view of the 430 so suggest drive both before deciding.

410s dont seem to be selling so £60k a potential target price for Xmas. I guess 9 out of 10 buyers in this market/budget are choosing GT4s.

BertBert

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178 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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Yes, very good point, although, the GT3 (sadly not RS) was beginning to be a little tedious on any bumps. It didn't need completely flat roads, but was not all that composed on mediumly bumpy A or B roads. Not enough to stop it being fabulous I hasten to add, but I'm happy to be doing something different!

But I do need to try out the GT4 as it's the obvious comparator even if I am trying to be different from my many years of Porsche ownership!!

Bert

SFTWend

318 posts

42 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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I've had a couple of Porsche in the past and whilst the GT4 appeals I've never had a Lotus. The Evora appears to to be a fabulous sports car with GT capability and the back seats are a bonus as I have a 6 year old son. Come sake time the porker would make more sense financially.

I'll be interested in how you get on trying both. I think it was Evo magazine that preferred the GT4 over the 410 in a group test. Not seen the write up but would be interested to find out why.

Sumsion

277 posts

139 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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Once in sport mode the IPS operates as a manual , uses both hands instead of one and no clutch pedal

gareth h

2,615 posts

197 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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The Ohlins on the 430 are magic, not sure you would notice the power difference, but you definitely would the ride / handling.

BertBert

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178 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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gareth h said:
The Ohlins on the 430 are magic, not sure you would notice the power difference, but you definitely would the ride / handling.
excellent, can you elaborate? Road or track? What is the difference?

gareth h

2,615 posts

197 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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BertBert said:
gareth h said:
The Ohlins on the 430 are magic, not sure you would notice the power difference, but you definitely would the ride / handling.
excellent, can you elaborate? Road or track? What is the difference?
I was lucky to test drive a 430 and 410 on the road from Silverstone, the 410 was good but the 430 was another level, composed but not crashy, a firm ride without being uncomfortable, it’s something that you only get with top end suspension.

BertBert

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15,195 posts

178 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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Interesting, thanks. I'll have to see whether the man maths actually adds up to a 430. There's no point in finding one to test drive, finding it's what I like and then not being able to afford one!

ParanoidAndroid

1,331 posts

250 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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A fair few 430 owners on The Lotus Forums, https://www.thelotusforums.com/forums/topic/92021-... is worth a read through.

BertBert

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15,195 posts

178 months

Tuesday 1st December 2020
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Thanks for that link I'm still waiding through which is very interesting. The view is definitely mixed. Certainly at least one poster who compares the 410 and the 430 concluding that the 430 is firm and perhaps not as composed as the 410. But the majority absolutely love them and seem to use them on the road a lot.

Mind you not many used ones about and looking at them I definitely would like a bright colour. Also at 80 something for a used one, there's a lot of choice of other fun stuff.

Probably looking more to the 410 at the moment.

Bert

Evoras

34 posts

45 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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Did you see the 410 for sale at parkway specialist cars. it is green but a reasonable price.

BertBert

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178 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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That's interesting. I worked in Mansfield until relatively recently and went past them a lot. I've seen a green Evora there several times and wonder if it's the same one. If so this is the third time they've had it for sale.

But looks quite interesting. It's a nice colour.

Bert

SFTWend

318 posts

42 months

Thursday 3rd December 2020
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That's been for sale with them for a very long time, but then so have most Evoras with all the dealers. Love that colour.

My understanding is the 410 Sport was a slightly stripped out version of the 400, introduced the slatted carbon engine cover and only available as 2 seater.

I prefer the later GT410 Sport as I'd want a 2+2 and the GT refinements. If I was after a hardcore 2 seater I'd buy an Exige.

BertBert

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Thursday 3rd December 2020
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So it is the same one. I never went past in working hours to talk to them about it. I'm actually happy with no rear seats, but do want the space behind them for stuff (Mrs Bert doesn't travel light when we are touring!). Might give them a call.

Evoras

34 posts

45 months

Thursday 3rd December 2020
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I bet you would get a good discount on that car. The alcantara and carbon seats look very good.


cypriot

432 posts

66 months

Friday 4th December 2020
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just make sure you get on with the thin carbon seats in the 410. some people find them rather uncomfortable, hence why a lot of the 430s were actually specced with the "normal" folding seats.

Also bear in mind that what tyres the cars are using plays a huge role in how the cars feel. I had michelin supersports and Cup 2s, and the difference in smoothness between the 2 was very noticeable. I am saying this just to make the point that if a particular feels a little too stiff, then changing the tyres to something like the michelin pilot sport 4s will really help.