The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 15]
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m3sye said:
https://www.thisisanfield.com/2019/01/trent-alexan...
type-r said:
m3sye said:
https://www.thisisanfield.com/2019/01/trent-alexan...
t.Look at Coutinho.
I just hope they built in some good clauses
Pommy said:
Sorry to be a negative but contracts mean jackst.
Look at Coutinho.
I just hope they built in some good clauses
True. However it means Liverpool protect their investment and can command a decent fee should they feel the need to "do a Coutinho". We dont want to be in situation like Man Utd where many of of their top players are coming to end of their contracts, having paid vast transfer fees for them and now they can just leave on a free.t.Look at Coutinho.
I just hope they built in some good clauses
NRS said:
Flip Martian said:
It's not rubbish, you'r missing the point. The inference from Gerrard was that Sturridge would get over injuries but then run off to the physios/medics as soon as he felt anything, even if it was nothing. He'd only feel like playing when he felt no pain or twinges at all. And the reality is, most players play with twinges and aches - its a normal part of footy. That's not denigrating his genuine injuries.
But it's missing the point that if you have an issue with your body then a small pain might very well be the only indication your body is about to fail yet again. Judging by the number of times he got re-injured shortly after it seemed something is wrong with his body. Whereas if your body is working fine you can just run through that pain and be fine. As I've said, until I screwed up an ankle ligament and have seen what it's like then I just thought others were moaning about nothing when they were avoiding further injuries/ got injured easily again ("ah, just moaning to get attention").It may not be true, I never chased it up, but I have read that elite athletes, particularly those who depend on fast twitch, have to gauge their efforts so as not to break down i.e. they never operate to their full potential as their bodies couldn't cope with it. I think that was in the context of Usain Bolt, Michael Johnson and such.
Sturridge certainly does not sprint like he used to. Perhaps that's a self preservation mechanism in his own mind, perhaps he's been told to be mindful of it. Certainly he is very injury prone and it will ultimately end his career earlier than it should IMO. It has already had a massive negative impact on his career to date.
type-r said:
Pommy said:
Sorry to be a negative but contracts mean jackst.
Look at Coutinho.
I just hope they built in some good clauses
True. However it means Liverpool protect their investment and can command a decent fee should they feel the need to "do a Coutinho". We dont want to be in situation like Man Utd where many of of their top players are coming to end of their contracts, having paid vast transfer fees for them and now they can just leave on a free.t.Look at Coutinho.
I just hope they built in some good clauses
ferrisbueller said:
NRS said:
Flip Martian said:
It's not rubbish, you'r missing the point. The inference from Gerrard was that Sturridge would get over injuries but then run off to the physios/medics as soon as he felt anything, even if it was nothing. He'd only feel like playing when he felt no pain or twinges at all. And the reality is, most players play with twinges and aches - its a normal part of footy. That's not denigrating his genuine injuries.
But it's missing the point that if you have an issue with your body then a small pain might very well be the only indication your body is about to fail yet again. Judging by the number of times he got re-injured shortly after it seemed something is wrong with his body. Whereas if your body is working fine you can just run through that pain and be fine. As I've said, until I screwed up an ankle ligament and have seen what it's like then I just thought others were moaning about nothing when they were avoiding further injuries/ got injured easily again ("ah, just moaning to get attention").It may not be true, I never chased it up, but I have read that elite athletes, particularly those who depend on fast twitch, have to gauge their efforts so as not to break down i.e. they never operate to their full potential as their bodies couldn't cope with it. I think that was in the context of Usain Bolt, Michael Johnson and such.
Sturridge certainly does not sprint like he used to. Perhaps that's a self preservation mechanism in his own mind, perhaps he's been told to be mindful of it. Certainly he is very injury prone and it will ultimately end his career earlier than it should IMO. It has already had a massive negative impact on his career to date.
Always thankful for what he did but he’s our past not our future
NRS said:
But it's missing the point that if you have an issue with your body then a small pain might very well be the only indication your body is about to fail yet again. Judging by the number of times he got re-injured shortly after it seemed something is wrong with his body. Whereas if your body is working fine you can just run through that pain and be fine. As I've said, until I screwed up an ankle ligament and have seen what it's like then I just thought others were moaning about nothing when they were avoiding further injuries/ got injured easily again ("ah, just moaning to get attention").
I get the ankle thing, I really do. Small ankle break and ligament damage meant it was 18 months before I walked without a limp and a few years before I could walk on uneven ground without wincing about the ligaments... Although I was far older than most footballers to be fair. Given that Klopp took the mickey out of Sturridge, however injured and genuinely fearful he was - he also had a rep for being over cautious.type-r said:
Pommy said:
Sorry to be a negative but contracts mean jackst.
Look at Coutinho.
I just hope they built in some good clauses
True. However it means Liverpool protect their investment and can command a decent fee should they feel the need to "do a Coutinho". We dont want to be in situation like Man Utd where many of of their top players are coming to end of their contracts, having paid vast transfer fees for them and now they can just leave on a free.t.Look at Coutinho.
I just hope they built in some good clauses
You could also argue if we can win the Prem, and add the CL to that (or at least be challenging for it) by next season, and keep that consistency of being a banker for top 2 and trophies (we're not there yet, I know) then there won't BE that many bigger clubs that could lure players away (unless it's for money).
ferrisbueller said:
Sturridge certainly does not sprint like he used to. Perhaps that's a self preservation mechanism in his own mind, perhaps he's been told to be mindful of it. Certainly he is very injury prone and it will ultimately end his career earlier than it should IMO. It has already had a massive negative impact on his career to date.
That's basically the main thing for me. He used to run lots. Then went through a spell with loads of injuries all the time. The way i read it is basically his body has just started to fall to bits earlier than is typical. Now he doesn't move much, as he knows if he does then he'll just be injured again. It means his time with us is done as we need someone who runs. But to me it doesn't mean he's trying to avoid the slightest pain, just he likely knows if he pushes his body it results in a injury. Plenty of top athletes have had the same - take Nadal for example in tennis. His body is gone and every time he comes back it's yet another injury.Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff