The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 10)

The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 10)

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Radec

1,009 posts

11 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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selym said:
Radec said:
selym said:
Not necessarily United news I know, but Giggs and women eh?
Ryan Giggs, Ryan Giggs, running down D wing biggrin
It took me a few seconds! I bet Rhodri is unsurprised.
https://mobile.twitter.com/rodjamesgiggs/status/1323553657128976384
rofl


so called

7,948 posts

173 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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One for Rashy


anniesdad

14,589 posts

202 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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I turn me back again and before you know it we're 3 pages into a new volume!

Arsenal was very dissapointing but not fully unexpected. Great news is we have a game tomorrow to look forward to! party

As for Giggs well he went down in my estimation after his first brush with the press and he's done nothing to endear me back towards him since, even if Rhodri has forgiven him, despite Ryan still having not apologised to him AFAIK. Now (allegedly) he's a GF beater. rolleyes Nice....

DeltonaS

3,119 posts

102 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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BMW A6 said:
One has ultimately arrived at unwavering & unequivocal conclusion that Pogba will not achieve his potential with us.

Sad, but he needs to be moved on.
unident said:
Covid - everyone is affected the same it isn’t exclusive to United

Summer window - club’s fault. Chairman or manager or both?

Lack of preseason - manager’s fault

Pogba- manager’s fault.

Ole can influence at least two of those above, arguably three and the Covid piece is just a red herring.
As A6 rightfully pointed out, if there's one thing clear after all these years is that Pogba isn't the player some still seem to make of him.

Just look at the impact Bruno had from the off.

Meulensteen says some meaningful things:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGrWXBFhD48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgwoTdEv4rk


Edited by DeltonaS on Tuesday 3rd November 20:21

selym

8,731 posts

135 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2020
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DeltonaS said:
As A6 rightfully pointed out, if theirs one thing clear after all these years is that Pogba isn't the player some still seem to make of him.

Just look at the impact Bruno had from the off.

Meulensteen says some meaningful things:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGrWXBFhD48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgwoTdEv4rk
Not all of that impact by Fernandez has been genius passes and intelligent play, there has been a lot of effort, industry and heart. Pogba must have looked at him in his first game and though to himself "fk, I'm going to be found out here".

franki68

8,191 posts

185 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Nice of poch to advertise his services the other day as ole comes under fire .


and31

660 posts

91 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Surely VDB starts tonight over pogba?

Cie

17,080 posts

157 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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franki68 said:
Nice of poch to advertise his services the other day as ole comes under fire .
I fear that even if we did get Poch in or anybody else actually, that they’re set to fail with the clowns running the club still there.

franki68

8,191 posts

185 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Cie said:
I fear that even if we did get Poch in or anybody else actually, that they’re set to fail with the clowns running the club still there.
absolutely.

200Plus Club

8,597 posts

242 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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and31 said:
Surely VDB starts tonight over pogba?
Hoping we start Cavani, VDB, Henderson.
Romero always did well in such circumstances.

unident

3,570 posts

15 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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franki68 said:
Cie said:
I fear that even if we did get Poch in or anybody else actually, that they’re set to fail with the clowns running the club still there.
absolutely.
I’ve said as much above, but there is a significant risk that a club that was making a big grab for total power in the PL last month is about to find itself fighting to stay in that league very soon.

Poch is more likely to get better results out of what we have.

200Plus Club

8,597 posts

242 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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and31 said:
Surely VDB starts tonight over pogba?
Hoping we start Cavani, VDB, Henderson.
Romero always did well in such circumstances.

Gone a bit AMG

4,320 posts

161 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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unident said:
Mr. White said:
You're right, I was being slightly facetious.

However I don't necessarily agree with the "trend" argument; it so difficult to come to any conclusions at the moment based on the covid situation, the usual shambles of a summer window, lack of pre-season, Pogba being Pogba etc.
Covid - everyone is affected the same it isn’t exclusive to United

Summer window - club’s fault. Chairman or manager or both?

Lack of preseason - manager’s fault

Pogba- manager’s fault.

Ole can influence at least two of those above, arguably three and the Covid piece is just a red herring.
Don’t agree that COVID is a red herring. Going to an empty old Trafford is a damn sight easier for opposition and far less intimidating.

Lack of preseason, How is that Ole’s fault? Because he got,us to the latter stages in Europe ?

Pogba’s selection is down to Ole.


BMW A6

1,911 posts

28 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Some salient points regarding our illustrious Turkish opponents:

İstanbul Başakşehir Futbol Kulübü is a Turkish professional football club based in the Başakşehir district of Istanbul. The club was founded in 1990 as İstanbul Büyükşehir Belediyespor (Istanbul Metropolitan Municipality). They first reached the highest level in Turkish Football in 2007–08. They play their home games at the Fatih Terim Stadium in Istanbul and are owned by the Ministry of Youth and Sports.

unident

3,570 posts

15 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Gone a bit AMG said:
Don’t agree that COVID is a red herring. Going to an empty old Trafford is a damn sight easier for opposition and far less intimidating.

Lack of preseason, How is that Ole’s fault? Because he got,us to the latter stages in Europe ?

Pogba’s selection is down to Ole.
Everyone has to deal with empty stadiums. Yes more teams are winning away, but has anyone got as bad a record as us this season?

City had to deal with it too, they’re not in the same position as us. Manage the squad, if you’re going to commit to Europe then fine. Send those that you’re starting the season with off on holiday. Tell them to return at a set point. Let those who are playing out Europe have a longer holiday and a later return date. Spread the squad, manage the tiredness. Did we do this?

Keyser Soze

21,547 posts

155 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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unident said:
Everyone has to deal with empty stadiums. Yes more teams are winning away, but has anyone got as bad a record as us this season?

City had to deal with it too, they’re not in the same position as us. Manage the squad, if you’re going to commit to Europe then fine. Send those that you’re starting the season with off on holiday. Tell them to return at a set point. Let those who are playing out Europe have a longer holiday and a later return date. Spread the squad, manage the tiredness. Did we do this?
Did anyone?

Gone a bit AMG

4,320 posts

161 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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unident said:
Everyone has to deal with empty stadiums. Yes more teams are winning away, but has anyone got as bad a record as us this season?

City had to deal with it too, they’re not in the same position as us. Manage the squad, if you’re going to commit to Europe then fine. Send those that you’re starting the season with off on holiday. Tell them to return at a set point. Let those who are playing out Europe have a longer holiday and a later return date. Spread the squad, manage the tiredness. Did we do this?
City are absolutely flying then? PLaying to their usual standard? No they aren’t,

And I fail to see how Ole could’ve achieved what you’ve stated without using Phil Jones and the youth team.

Edited by Gone a bit AMG on Wednesday 4th November 16:23

likesachange

2,361 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Its a funny old game and I am a little feared for tonights game (dont forget guys its an early kick off)

They had 16 shots at goal vs PSG and a fair amount against Leipzig, by all accounts they were unlucky not to get anything out of those games..

This is going to be just as tough as the other games I recon!

Gone a bit AMG

4,320 posts

161 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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likesachange said:
Its a funny old game and I am a little feared for tonights game (dont forget guys its an early kick off)

They had 16 shots at goal vs PSG and a fair amount against Leipzig, by all accounts they were unlucky not to get anything out of those games..

This is going to be just as tough as the other games I recon!
It’ll be tough but their domestic form is worse than ours!!!!! I hope to see more of DVB

unident

3,570 posts

15 months

Wednesday 4th November 2020
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Gone a bit AMG said:
City are absolutely flying then? PLaying to their usual standard? No they aren’t,

And I fail to see how Ole could’ve achieved what you’ve stated without using Phil Jones and the youth team.

Edited by Gone a bit AMG on Wednesday 4th November 16:23
Does it matter what others are doing? Are they losing all their home games? Have they got 4 more points than us despite playing as poorly as they are?

Keyser Soze said:
Did anyone?
Does it matter? Do we only do what others do?