The Official Euro 2020 thread....

The Official Euro 2020 thread....

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GloverMart

Original Poster:

10,543 posts

183 months

Tuesday 25th May
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Can't see one started so thought I'd kick off (arf!).....

Gareth Southgate names his 33-man England squad which will be trimmed down to 23 players by June 1st.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57239842

Think one or two players are very lucky to be in there and a couple are unlucky not to be, particularly Patrick Bamford whose season's figures are more impressive than either DCL or Watkins, both of whom I'd take as well to be honest.

JNW1

5,681 posts

162 months

Tuesday 25th May
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To be honest I think it would have been a long shot for Bamford to make the final 26 but personally I think he's a bit unfortunate not to make the 33 announced today; aside from the goals he scores he contributes enormously to the general team play at Leeds and could have done something similar for England in my view.

Delighted to see Ben White included though; he was terrific for Leeds in the Championship and has confirmed that potential for Brighton in the PL this season. Not sure he'll make the final 26 this time but IMO he'll be a full England international before too long and once there I think he'll be in the squad - and possibly the first 11 - for several years to come.

hilly10

5,888 posts

196 months

Tuesday 25th May
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On DCL latest performances cannot see him making the final squad

MiniMan64

14,370 posts

158 months

Tuesday 25th May
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Seems very heavy at the back and front and light in the middle

JNW1

5,681 posts

162 months

Tuesday 25th May
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MiniMan64 said:
Seems very heavy at the back and front and light in the middle
Yes although I've always regarded Grealish as an attacking midfielder but he's been included in the provisional squad as a forward!

monty999

898 posts

73 months

Tuesday 25th May
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JNW1 said:
Yes although I've always regarded Grealish as an attacking midfielder but he's been included in the provisional squad as a forward!
Grealish can be wherever it takes to get him on the pitch for me. Don't particularly like the guy but got to admit he is the first player to really excite me when he gets on the ball since Gazza in his heyday.

Halo in reverse

124 posts

75 months

Tuesday 25th May
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MiniMan64 said:
Seems very heavy at the back and front and light in the middle
Yeah I thought that too - the back & front lines to be heavily reduced I think with perhaps 1 midfielder being culled (IMHO that would be Lingard - sorry West Ham fans :-))

TCEvo

9,458 posts

170 months

Tuesday 25th May
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Halo in reverse said:
MiniMan64 said:
Seems very heavy at the back and front and light in the middle
Yeah I thought that too - the back & front lines to be heavily reduced I think with perhaps 1 midfielder being culled (IMHO that would be Lingard - sorry West Ham fans :-))
He's not our player at the moment!

Claret & blue notwithstanding, I think he'll go as he brings big tournament experience to a relatively young squad & having only played regularly since the beginning of the year a potential degree of freshness.

That being said he was quiet(ish) in WH's last handful of games.

JNW1

5,681 posts

162 months

Tuesday 25th May
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monty999 said:
JNW1 said:
Yes although I've always regarded Grealish as an attacking midfielder but he's been included in the provisional squad as a forward!
Grealish can be wherever it takes to get him on the pitch for me. Don't particularly like the guy but got to admit he is the first player to really excite me when he gets on the ball since Gazza in his heyday.
Agreed - he falls over a bit too easily for my liking but a real talent nevertheless.

monty999

898 posts

73 months

Tuesday 25th May
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We do have quite a lot of talent in the attacking midfield and footballing defenders department but we do need that Nobby Styles and Jack Charlton character too and I can't see who that is at the moment.

Brave Fart

3,121 posts

79 months

Tuesday 25th May
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I know we take 26 to the tournament, but I'm a bit worried about the number of currently injured or very recently recovered players in the 33 - and that's before the Europa and Champions League finals to come.
Maguire, Henderson, Rice, Phillips and Grealish all have question marks over how match fit they really are.
Maguire especially worries me, since Southgate admits he's got no idea about Maguire's fitness.
Still, at least Dier is omitted, so it's not all bad.

ChocolateFrog

13,409 posts

141 months

Tuesday 25th May
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Feel like a bit of a doom monger but part of me wants us to fail catastrophically just so Southgate fks off.

I've never been as apathetic towards England as I have been with him at the helm.

We've actually got some exciting young players coming through for the first time in 20 years and I don't want him to fk it up.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Tuesday 25th May 21:04

Challo

6,612 posts

123 months

Tuesday 25th May
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MiniMan64 said:
Seems very heavy at the back and front and light in the middle
Henderson, Phillips and Rice are the holding deep midfielders, the rest will provide the attacking threat

Drezza

936 posts

22 months

Tuesday 25th May
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Seems mad to not include Bamford, been robbed with some dodgy VAR decisions too so tally would be higher than 17. Don't rate Mings either, think Konsa is much better.

Pommy

11,886 posts

184 months

Sunday 30th May
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What are people's thoughts:

Favourites:

Dark Horses:

Will Fail Miserably:


?

Mine:

Favourites: France

Dark Horses: Italy

Will Fail Miserably: England wink

48k

8,451 posts

116 months

Sunday 30th May
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GloverMart said:
Think one or two players are very lucky to be in there and a couple are unlucky not to be, particularly Patrick Bamford whose season's figures are more impressive than either DCL or Watkins, both of whom I'd take as well to be honest.
What are Bamfords impressive figures out of interest? I always thought he was criticised for wasting too many chances / having a very low conversion rate ?

48k

8,451 posts

116 months

Sunday 30th May
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Pommy said:
Dark Horses: Italy
+1

I have a bet on from last year at 13/1. Think they could surprise a few.

smartypants

50,077 posts

137 months

Sunday 30th May
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We will lose every game. Can’t wait!

ChocolateFrog

13,409 posts

141 months

Sunday 30th May
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Pommy said:
What are people's thoughts:

Favourites:

Dark Horses:

Will Fail Miserably:


?

Mine:

Favourites: France

Dark Horses: Italy

Will Fail Miserably: England wink
Favourites: France

Dark Horses: Portugal

Will Fail Mieerably: Netherlands

Brave Fart

3,121 posts

79 months

Sunday 30th May
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Favourites: France
Dark Horses: Belgium
Will Fail Miserably: Germany (please, please let it be so)