The Official Manchester United Thread (Vol 12)
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Seems like the break is a good thing and a bad thing for us as the player need a rest after a busy few weeks but we were just getting some momentum going!
We're going to have a lot of outs this summer imo:
Antony
Sancho
Rashford (maybe)
Casemiro
Eriksen
Lindelof
Malacia
Maguire (maybe)
Evans
That's a massive saving on our wage bill and gives us the chance to make a few signings too. Of course if we manage to win the Europa and get CL footy then that gives us a big financial boost too.
Big summer ahead for the club and Amorim!
We're going to have a lot of outs this summer imo:
Antony
Sancho
Rashford (maybe)
Casemiro
Eriksen
Lindelof
Malacia
Maguire (maybe)
Evans
That's a massive saving on our wage bill and gives us the chance to make a few signings too. Of course if we manage to win the Europa and get CL footy then that gives us a big financial boost too.
Big summer ahead for the club and Amorim!
simon800 said:
Been really impressed with the little I've seen of Heaven so far. You can see why he's ahead of Lindelof in the pecking order.
Credit to Amorim and INEOS for this, but we suddenly have a crop of interesting young players.
Heaven (18), Yoro (19), Amad (22), Collyer (21), Mainoo (19), Garnacho (20), Chido (17), Amass (18), Dorgu (21) all around the 1st team to varying extents.
Throw in the likes of Ugarte (23), De Ligt (25), ZZ (23), Hojlund (22) and the profile of what we have got feels a far cry from the squad age profile of recent years.
Of course some have their flaws, some won't make it etc.
But it at least feels as if we could be building something, rather than looking at short term sticking plaster solutions which we've tended to do.
Yep it seems we are continuing with our history of bringing young players through the academy into the first team and long may it continue. Hopefully some of these will become regular first teamers. Credit to Amorim and INEOS for this, but we suddenly have a crop of interesting young players.
Heaven (18), Yoro (19), Amad (22), Collyer (21), Mainoo (19), Garnacho (20), Chido (17), Amass (18), Dorgu (21) all around the 1st team to varying extents.
Throw in the likes of Ugarte (23), De Ligt (25), ZZ (23), Hojlund (22) and the profile of what we have got feels a far cry from the squad age profile of recent years.
Of course some have their flaws, some won't make it etc.
But it at least feels as if we could be building something, rather than looking at short term sticking plaster solutions which we've tended to do.
Good to see Amass get a run out last night. You can see why there was a reluctance for him to play. I know he is 18, but small in statue and you could easily see him get bullied. Fingers crossed he fills out a bit and puts on a bit of muscle.
Challo said:
Yep it seems we are continuing with our history of bringing young players through the academy into the first team and long may it continue. Hopefully some of these will become regular first teamers.
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With all the financial restrictions these days, 'making your own players' is going to be essential for any team..
Troubling article in todays Telegraph - long and detailed analysis of the UTD approach to data analysis which reads like it’s well researched and thorough
If true it raises a lot of questions about INEOS and SJR in particular because despite saying they want to be data led they appear to have come in with a data team having been put in place [late to the party but the previous regime had eventually invested in a strong data team) but they have sacked the lead and not replaced and then SJR in interview has talked as if oblivious to what they in fact already have in place
It’s long and deserves reading - it paints a very different picture of the clubs support structures than what SJR has said in his interviews
If true it raises a lot of questions about INEOS and SJR in particular because despite saying they want to be data led they appear to have come in with a data team having been put in place [late to the party but the previous regime had eventually invested in a strong data team) but they have sacked the lead and not replaced and then SJR in interview has talked as if oblivious to what they in fact already have in place
It’s long and deserves reading - it paints a very different picture of the clubs support structures than what SJR has said in his interviews
FlyingTrotter said:
Troubling article in todays Telegraph - long and detailed analysis of the UTD approach to data analysis which reads like it’s well researched and thorough
If true it raises a lot of questions about INEOS and SJR in particular because despite saying they want to be data led they appear to have come in with a data team having been put in place [late to the party but the previous regime had eventually invested in a strong data team) but they have sacked the lead and not replaced and then SJR in interview has talked as if oblivious to what they in fact already have in place
It’s long and deserves reading - it paints a very different picture of the clubs support structures than what SJR has said in his interviews
I've just read that too, and did smile when it made reference to Utd building on the investment and infrastructure already there rather than ripping up and starting from scratch. That'd be a change!If true it raises a lot of questions about INEOS and SJR in particular because despite saying they want to be data led they appear to have come in with a data team having been put in place [late to the party but the previous regime had eventually invested in a strong data team) but they have sacked the lead and not replaced and then SJR in interview has talked as if oblivious to what they in fact already have in place
It’s long and deserves reading - it paints a very different picture of the clubs support structures than what SJR has said in his interviews
Troubling article in todays Telegraph - long and detailed analysis of the UTD approach to data analysis which reads like it’s well researched and thorough
If true it raises a lot of questions about INEOS and SJR in particular because despite saying they want to be data led they appear to have come in with a data team having been put in place [late to the party but the previous regime had eventually invested in a strong data team) but they have sacked the lead and not replaced and then SJR in interview has talked as if oblivious to what they in fact already have in place
It’s long and deserves reading - it paints a very different picture of the clubs support structures than what SJR has said in his interviews
If true it raises a lot of questions about INEOS and SJR in particular because despite saying they want to be data led they appear to have come in with a data team having been put in place [late to the party but the previous regime had eventually invested in a strong data team) but they have sacked the lead and not replaced and then SJR in interview has talked as if oblivious to what they in fact already have in place
It’s long and deserves reading - it paints a very different picture of the clubs support structures than what SJR has said in his interviews
Silenoz said:
FlyingTrotter said:
Troubling article in todays Telegraph - long and detailed analysis of the UTD approach to data analysis which reads like it’s well researched and thorough
If true it raises a lot of questions about INEOS and SJR in particular because despite saying they want to be data led they appear to have come in with a data team having been put in place [late to the party but the previous regime had eventually invested in a strong data team) but they have sacked the lead and not replaced and then SJR in interview has talked as if oblivious to what they in fact already have in place
It’s long and deserves reading - it paints a very different picture of the clubs support structures than what SJR has said in his interviews
I've just read that too, and did smile when it made reference to Utd building on the investment and infrastructure already there rather than ripping up and starting from scratch. That'd be a change!If true it raises a lot of questions about INEOS and SJR in particular because despite saying they want to be data led they appear to have come in with a data team having been put in place [late to the party but the previous regime had eventually invested in a strong data team) but they have sacked the lead and not replaced and then SJR in interview has talked as if oblivious to what they in fact already have in place
It’s long and deserves reading - it paints a very different picture of the clubs support structures than what SJR has said in his interviews
Good article in the athletic about the same topic https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6129400/2025/02/1...
It suggests (aside from the considerable detail on the data position) that SJR statement s should not be taken literally - there have been a few earlier examples of him making rather sweeping statements that perhaps were not wholly accurate
Going bust being the most obvious as plainly if SJR and the Glazers are worth billions they would hardly allow there huge investments in UTD to be lost for the sake of a relatively small additional capital or debt injection to stave off collapse
Going bust being the most obvious as plainly if SJR and the Glazers are worth billions they would hardly allow there huge investments in UTD to be lost for the sake of a relatively small additional capital or debt injection to stave off collapse
Challo said:
Its behind a paywall. Anyone got a link to read where I dont need to sign up?
An extra . in Telegraph URLs helps.https://www.telegraph.co.uk./football/2025/03/31/m...
QuartzDad said:
Challo said:
Its behind a paywall. Anyone got a link to read where I dont need to sign up?
An extra . in Telegraph URLs helps.https://www.telegraph.co.uk./football/2025/03/31/m...
Looking forward to us playing tomorrow, it feels like it's been AGES since our last game.
It's into the run in now, just 9 league games left.
Really interested to see how many points we pick up, in the reverse fixtures against the teams we have to play still we played 9, won 2, drew 2, lost 5 for a total of 8 points out of 27.
We were showing some signs of life before the international break, and am sure we will see an improvement on the points tally. A strong end to the season will definitely offer some encouragement ahead of the next one.
Forest will be a very tricky game, they're a strong side, but they also played 120 mins on the weekend and we are well rested so hopefully can pull something out the bag.
It's into the run in now, just 9 league games left.
Really interested to see how many points we pick up, in the reverse fixtures against the teams we have to play still we played 9, won 2, drew 2, lost 5 for a total of 8 points out of 27.
We were showing some signs of life before the international break, and am sure we will see an improvement on the points tally. A strong end to the season will definitely offer some encouragement ahead of the next one.
Forest will be a very tricky game, they're a strong side, but they also played 120 mins on the weekend and we are well rested so hopefully can pull something out the bag.
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