2024 UEFA European Football Championship

[pingu393]

BrabusMog said:

It was never a pen but, if we look at the context of the game rationally, England did deserve to win.

There's no doubt about that. It would have been an injustice if Netherlands had held out for a boring draw, and won on penalties. There was only one team trying to win the game.

[Honourable Dead Snark]

I remember when Spain won the Euros in 2008 and World Cup in 2010, Nadal also won Wimbledon both those years securing a Spanish Double.

Alcaraz is in the final defending his title. Not a good omen for England…

[pingu393]

Honourable Dead Snark said:

I remember when Spain won the Euros in 2008 and World Cup in 2010, Nadal also won Wimbledon both those years securing a Spanish Double.

Alcaraz is in the final defending his title. Not a good omen for England…

He'll have finished the tennis before the footy starts. Start panicking if he wins .

[Honourable Dead Snark]

pingu393 said:

Honourable Dead Snark said:

I remember when Spain won the Euros in 2008 and World Cup in 2010, Nadal also won Wimbledon both those years securing a Spanish Double.

Alcaraz is in the final defending his title. Not a good omen for England…

He'll have finished the tennis before the footy starts. Start panicking if he wins .

[TheInternet]

Thoughts on the tournament as a whole? Right team won, but I don't think exactly been a classic overall.

[g4ry13]

TheInternet said:

Thoughts on the tournament as a whole? Right team won, but I don't think exactly been a classic overall.

A few bright sparks from some of the smaller teams but general standard of the tournament was poor.

England played like crap all tournament and managed to make it to final. Tells you all you really need to know.

[Honourable Dead Snark]

TheInternet said:

Thoughts on the tournament as a whole? Right team won, but I don't think exactly been a classic overall.

Was honestly awful. Most of the games I regretted wasting hours of my life.

[MiniMan64]

It did indeed go home.

[LF5335]

TheInternet said:

Thoughts on the tournament as a whole? Right team won, but I don't think exactly been a classic overall.

Totally agree. That England were in the final with the dross they’ve served up shows how poor it was.

Spain were a level above everyone and their win is well deserved.

[pingu393]

I was in a pub surrounded by England supporters. As a Scottish neutral, it was an "interesting" game to watch.

By God, my tongue hurts and it has teeth marks .

[mickk]

pingu393 said:

I was in a pub surrounded by England supporters. As a Scottish neutral, it was an "interesting" game to watch.

By God, my tongue hurts x 5 and it has teeth marks x 1 .

[Blackpuddin]

g4ry13 said:

A few bright sparks from some of the smaller teams but general standard of the tournament was poor.

England played like crap all tournament and managed to make it to final. Tells you all you really need to know.

Crap football is what you see on Sunday mornings in the park. Euro teams were not crap, quite the opposite, they cancelled each other out. But they weren't 'crap'.

[LF5335]

Blackpuddin said:

Crap football is what you see on Sunday mornings in the park. Euro teams were not crap, quite the opposite, they cancelled each other out. But they weren't 'crap'.

The problem is park football can be entertaining. I’m not convinced that the Euros were entertaining. If it’s not entertaining then it will eventually lose interest from the supporters it needs. Admittedly that will take a long time, but it’s still a competition paraded as the best of European nations that didn’t really deliver much of interest.

Sideways & backwards possession based football may well deliver more victories than defeats and mathematically work, but I don’t want to watch chess. YMMV.

[Blackpuddin]

LF5335 said:

Blackpuddin said:

Crap football is what you see on Sunday mornings in the park. Euro teams were not crap, quite the opposite, they cancelled each other out. But they weren't 'crap'.

The problem is park football can be entertaining. I’m not convinced that the Euros were entertaining. If it’s not entertaining then it will eventually lose interest from the supporters it needs. Admittedly that will take a long time, but it’s still a competition paraded as the best of European nations that didn’t really deliver much of interest.

Sideways & backwards possession based football may well deliver more victories than defeats and mathematically work, but I don’t want to watch chess. YMMV.

The top players are so fit now, unless someone decides to increase the size of the pitch or reduce the number of players in a team that's the way it's going to go.

[SWoll]

Blackpuddin said:

Crap football is what you see on Sunday mornings in the park. Euro teams were not crap, quite the opposite, they cancelled each other out. But they weren't 'crap'.

It was a pretty poor tournament. The only team who looked like they wanted to win it did, scoring an average of 2.15 goals per game. With the chances they had last night they should have spanked us by 3 or 4.

The final really should have been Germany v Spain for the best football, but due to the draw they obviously met too early in the tournament for that to be the case.

[SP_]

Did anyone notice the quite large number of empty seats?

[epom]

Hard to argue with the winners, looked likely even early on.

[TCEvo]

TheInternet said:

Thoughts on the tournament as a whole? Right team won, but I don't think exactly been a classic overall.

Very poor tournament overall for me. Only stand-out game that I watched was Turkey vs Austria, which was a fantastic match - one of the most entertaining games I've seen for ages.

Germany vs Spain (semi) was decent, the rest utterly forgettable.

Next WC's going to be even worse as there are 48 teams competing (12 groups) & it's massively spread out across the USA, Canada & Mexico.

[pingu393]

TCEvo said:

TheInternet said:

Thoughts on the tournament as a whole? Right team won, but I don't think exactly been a classic overall.

Very poor tournament overall for me. Only stand-out game that I watched was Turkey vs Austria, which was a fantastic match - one of the most entertaining games I've seen for ages.

Germany vs Spain (semi) was decent, the rest utterly forgettable.

Next WC's going to be even worse as there are 48 teams competing (12 groups) & it's massively spread out across the USA, Canada & Mexico.

Football and Formula One have become TV events that tolerate the crowds that provide the atmosphere.

It used to be possible to follow them for a whole season, but now the cost and the geographic spread is for the super-rich only.

Picking one F1 GP to visit is one thing, but you may need £25,000 per person to follow your team in the next WC (and the Euros are going the same way).

[soupdragon1]

Blackpuddin said:

LF5335 said:

Blackpuddin said:

Crap football is what you see on Sunday mornings in the park. Euro teams were not crap, quite the opposite, they cancelled each other out. But they weren't 'crap'.

The problem is park football can be entertaining. I’m not convinced that the Euros were entertaining. If it’s not entertaining then it will eventually lose interest from the supporters it needs. Admittedly that will take a long time, but it’s still a competition paraded as the best of European nations that didn’t really deliver much of interest.

Sideways & backwards possession based football may well deliver more victories than defeats and mathematically work, but I don’t want to watch chess. YMMV.

The top players are so fit now, unless someone decides to increase the size of the pitch or reduce the number of players in a team that's the way it's going to go.

Or Arsene Wenger idea about offside - daylight between players before it's offside.

The way defenders make a high line reduces the pitch size (well, the area of actual play in mean) so allowing forward players to stretch the pitch out a bit might have the same effect as increasing the pitch size.