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MartG

20,677 posts

204 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Gary29

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99 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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SN10 was spectacular, in every sense!

Falcon 9 due for lift off in 2 mins if anyone is interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5DzoKuhdNk

annodomini2

6,861 posts

251 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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eharding said:
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I wonder if the fuel that was being vented came into the hot engines which caused the fuel to ignite?
I thiink there are a lot of COPVs in the engine bay - £5 says there was a fire down there and some of them cooked off.


Edited by eharding on Wednesday 3rd March 23:58
My speculative guess would be, the landing skirt bent on a slightly hard landing ( it was leaning over), and either a COPV ruptured, or the methane tank ruptured.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Gary29 said:
SN10 was spectacular, in every sense!

Falcon 9 due for lift off in 2 mins if anyone is interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5DzoKuhdNk
77th successful landing of a booster. Impressive stiff.

Smiljan

10,838 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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MartG said:
I watched it on the Everyday Astronaut youtube channel, he was live at the launch from a house a few miles away. He turned away from the action after landing for a bit to chat to the camera and didn't even see it blow up behind him.

8 and half hours of live stream and he missed it going boom rofl

https://youtu.be/_jWbqhP5eJI?t=30373

rxe

6,700 posts

103 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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This is awesome. I find it depressing that when you look at all the news channels, this is relegated to a bit of text at the bottom - while Harry and Meghan dullness is number 1. Should be the other way round...

Smiljan

10,838 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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There was another starlink launch about 20 minutes ago with a flawless drone ship landing. I don't expect many people on here watched it, done before considered routine.

Same happened with the Apollo missions, it just doesn't interest a lot of people at all. Can't really expect a test flight of an empty tin can is going to be headline news.

fiatpower

3,035 posts

171 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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I am really enjoying watching this happen in my time. I would love to get involved in the engineering side but there’s nothing like it here and can’t get a job at spaceX or NASA as I’m not American.

Any idea on when SN11 will be?

Dog Star

16,132 posts

168 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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rxe said:
This is awesome. I find it depressing that when you look at all the news channels, this is relegated to a bit of text at the bottom - while Harry and Meghan dullness is number 1. Should be the other way round...
It's something I find perhaps indicative of the state of the world we live in - Harry and Meghan, what some ludicrous looking airhead woman off Love Island with lips like a baboons arse or her equally vacuous bearded, skinny jean clad boyfriend are doing etc etc is all over the front pages. Grim stuff indeed. Then you have mind blowing stuff like this.

I did think they'd got away with a leaning-tower Starship and was actually watching when it blew on Nasa Spaceflight. It was on fire so who knows what failed. There was a definite bounce on landing so if legs have a crush structure then those would have been deformed on first hit. Musk has stated before that there are issues with the leg design - I wonder if they might have to sacrifice some payload capacity and have something that deploys just before landing that would give a more Starhopper-esque stability?

Just think if they'd used the three engine initial landing burn on SN9 it would likely have landed perfectly. The footage of the engines relighting one by one was excellent - then you saw one go out.

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Does NASA only employ US citizens? In days gone by it was very multi-national.

RizzoTheRat

25,162 posts

192 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Smiljan said:
Same happened with the Apollo missions, it just doesn't interest a lot of people at all. Can't really expect a test flight of an empty tin can is going to be headline news.
I was just thinking the same thing, amazing that people lost interest in moon landings after just a handful of people went there.

Even for those of us who are interested in such things it becomes routine, the twin booster landing from the Falcon Heavy Starman mission was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen, but I don't tend to watch launches any more unless it's something new like the first Crewed Dragon launch or these Starship test flights.

To be fair it did make the main page of the BBC News website though...underneath Harry & Megan rolleyes

I gave up and went to bed last night before the launch, so in an attempt to watch a replay without a spoiler of knowing what happened first, accidentally watched Every Day Astronaut's clip of it exploding on the launchpad first and thought it had blown up before launch! Luckily found the correct stream though, the view from underneath as it relit the engines was fantastic.

Dog Star

16,132 posts

168 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Smiljan said:
There was another starlink launch about 20 minutes ago with a flawless drone ship landing. I don't expect many people on here watched it, done before considered routine.
Nope. I watch every single one (except the ones at silly-o-clock). The landings never get old, although there's nothing quite like the twin booster landings - well there is now - Starship landings cool

Dog Star

16,132 posts

168 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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This is from Jack Beyer’s Twitter feed - beautiful


fiatpower

3,035 posts

171 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Eric Mc said:
Does NASA only employ US citizens? In days gone by it was very multi-national.
Yeah unfortunately apart from in very rare circumstances. Presumably where you are the world leading expert in something they need.

MiniMan64

16,926 posts

190 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Smiljan said:
There was another starlink launch about 20 minutes ago with a flawless drone ship landing. I don't expect many people on here watched it, done before considered routine.

Same happened with the Apollo missions, it just doesn't interest a lot of people at all. Can't really expect a test flight of an empty tin can is going to be headline news.
I think the fact that Space X are launching the Falcon all the time with no fan fair while slightly depressing is also indicative of what a success it is. They've effectively made regular space launch's and landing so regular and safe that it's just a normal part of life now. In due course the same thing will be true of Starship and hopefully the same will be true of people going to and fro to the Moon regularly and then going to and fro from Mars. It'll be on a longer time scale but I guess that's Elon's goal, make it normal, make it a fact of life. Drive your car to work, no big deal, trip to Mars? No big deal.

Zoobeef

6,004 posts

158 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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MiniMan64 said:
Smiljan said:
There was another starlink launch about 20 minutes ago with a flawless drone ship landing. I don't expect many people on here watched it, done before considered routine.

Same happened with the Apollo missions, it just doesn't interest a lot of people at all. Can't really expect a test flight of an empty tin can is going to be headline news.
I think the fact that Space X are launching the Falcon all the time with no fan fair while slightly depressing is also indicative of what a success it is. They've effectively made regular space launch's and landing so regular and safe that it's just a normal part of life now. In due course the same thing will be true of Starship and hopefully the same will be true of people going to and fro to the Moon regularly and then going to and fro from Mars. It'll be on a longer time scale but I guess that's Elon's goal, make it normal, make it a fact of life. Drive your car to work, no big deal, trip to Mars? No big deal.
Hell of a commute though.

Beati Dogu

8,891 posts

139 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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fiatpower said:
Eric Mc said:
Does NASA only employ US citizens? In days gone by it was very multi-national.
Yeah unfortunately apart from in very rare circumstances. Presumably where you are the world leading expert in something they need.
They used to employ a lot of Germans.

rxe

6,700 posts

103 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Smiljan said:
There was another starlink launch about 20 minutes ago with a flawless drone ship landing. I don't expect many people on here watched it, done before considered routine.

Same happened with the Apollo missions, it just doesn't interest a lot of people at all. Can't really expect a test flight of an empty tin can is going to be headline news.
Per the Starlink thread, I’ve at least ordered it! ;-) So in some small way, I’m funding trips to Mars!

CraigyMc

16,405 posts

236 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Beati Dogu said:
fiatpower said:
Eric Mc said:
Does NASA only employ US citizens? In days gone by it was very multi-national.
Yeah unfortunately apart from in very rare circumstances. Presumably where you are the world leading expert in something they need.
They used to employ a lot of Germans.
They made them US citizens. Job Jobbed.

annodomini2

6,861 posts

251 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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CraigyMc said:
Beati Dogu said:
fiatpower said:
Eric Mc said:
Does NASA only employ US citizens? In days gone by it was very multi-national.
Yeah unfortunately apart from in very rare circumstances. Presumably where you are the world leading expert in something they need.
They used to employ a lot of Germans.
They made them US citizens. Job Jobbed.
SpaceX work on military stuff, those working on it need security clearance. Which in the US requires Citizenship.
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