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walesm3011

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2 posts

24 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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Hi all, after some help......... my son started a truck and bus mechanic apprenticeship in July , he is now at the point where he wants to start buying his own tools . So so so many brands to choose from ......snap on and Mac are used widely but are also very expensive. He has set himself a budget of around 800 pounds for box and a starter set of tools , anyone got any recommendations from past experience , any help would be appreciated . Thanks.

steveo3002

7,715 posts

134 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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halfords as theyre easy to replace if/when something breaks , make sure he gets the trade card , im sure there will be some xmas /jan sales too

Colonel D

334 posts

32 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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Blue Point is what I first started buying, cheaper side of Snap On, with just as good quality, in fact some of my Blue Point have lasted longer. It's better to buy good than buy a cheap ratchet 50 times. I know Snap On used to give the tools on credit and there was no interest or any other fees once you paid for the tools. I mostly have Snap On and Blue Point ratchets, sockets, spanners and screwdrivers. They're the most commonly broken items so a lifetime warranty is worth spending a little extra on.
If he wants something else or cheaper, have a look around, but go with something that offers a lifetime warranty. Sealey Tools were cheap, not the best quality but again the warranty made up for it.

WorldBoss

2,748 posts

149 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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My best advise would be to get a semi decent box to start with, so at least it lasts.

https://www.halfords.com/workshop-tools/storage/to...

I used the same thing professionally almost everyday for 2 years now and can't fault it. I've had far more expensive Snap On boxes and yes they are better, slightly, but they are 95% there for willy waving IMHO. In my experience the best technicians always have the smallest, tattiest boxes smile.

A 'Basic' 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 and probably 3/4 socket sets are needed. Again personally, i tend to go for cheaper sockets with a decent selection ratchets.

neilsen, bergen and us-pro have some good stuff for no much money, if you can get past them not being name branded.

tapkaJohnD

1,503 posts

164 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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As your son is an apprentice, he should qualify for Snap-On's Educational Pricing scheme. You can see Snap-On's "Excellence in Education" scheme online, but that is directed at colleges, not students. https://www.snapon.com/25547.nws

My college had a presentation from Snap-On's Regional Account Manager, Howard Barlow last week. They offer a good set of tools, in a top box, with your son's name on it, for £300, plus 30% off anything else he wants The tools are BluePoint, not full Snap-On, but that's a good standard.
Howard made it clear that this offer is NOT available from Snap-On franchisees. Your son needs to contact Howard directly (07740-448420) or through his educational establishment.

I can't speak about the kit in use, I'm a mature student with my own tool set already, mainly from Halfords, or I'd be buying one. Having said that, Halfords are at least BluePoint quality, and they honour their lifetime warranty, no questions.

John

Edited by tapkaJohnD on Saturday 1st December 10:48

walesm3011

Original Poster:

2 posts

24 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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Thanks for all the replies will certainly check out the bluepoint and Halfords sets, thanks

juan king

1,093 posts

149 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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another vote for the halfords advanced stuff, good quality and no quibble replacements

Roon205

90 posts

36 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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For a tool box I would look at SGS’s range.

For a fraction of the cost they do the job very well and customer service etc is superb!


I’ve got the 42’’ roller for the garage and it’s ideal just as good as my previous snap on box tbh.

https://www.sgs-engineering.com/garage-equipment/t...

Tools wise as said if he can get a account with the MAC man or snap on it’s best to buy the best stuff with warranty especially if he’s working on LGV’s. A decent torque wrench suitable for his needs would take up a large chunk of his budget!

He can also claim back an amount via the taxman with a cheeky tool rebate.

Good luck to him.


julianm

1,059 posts

161 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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Might be worth looking at Koken stuff which is what I`ve bought in recent years after having Britool for many years & not being so impressed with the recent offerings.
http://www.koken-tool.co.jp/en/product.html
https://www.consolidatedtools.com/epages/s3zpvuf58...

wolf1

2,940 posts

210 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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Sack off buying anything new and tell him to trawl ebay for second hand bargains. He should be able to get a decent set of tools and a sturdy top box or roll cab by shopping around and not looking for it all from one seller.

dug294

4 posts

2 months

Sunday 18th October
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Hi guys I'm currently at college doing motor vehicle and I want to build up my tools. Snap on too dear was thinking of facom, maybe sealey premier thoughts or recommendations please

imagineifyeswill

1,112 posts

126 months

Sunday 18th October
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Facom is certainly good stuff but Im not sure how big a range they do, Ive only ever seen odd sets for sale here and there. The only Facom stuff Ive bought has been specialists tools for one purpose only.

tapkaJohnD

1,503 posts

164 months

Sunday 18th October
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dug,
did you see this above? SnapOn student discount scheme: https://www.snapon.com/25547.nws

dug294

4 posts

2 months

Monday 19th October
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tapkaJohnD said:
dug,
did you see this above? SnapOn student discount scheme: https://www.snapon.com/25547.nws
I did but i still feel it is ridiculously expensive. where i live our snap-on dealer is based 70 miles away and doesnt come very often and i can get facom stuff delivered next day or day after

thebraketester

10,156 posts

98 months

Monday 19th October
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I would have thought the halfords advanced stuff is a good price/quality trade off..

ChampionRabbit

101 posts

25 months

Monday 19th October
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IMO it's crazy to pick a brand. Just buy stuff as you need it based on budget and quality.

For example, Wera screwdrivers are hard to beat in term so of price/quality although I have big hands so I tend to buy Irimo or Gedore as the handles are fatter. You wouldn't buy Wera spanners though normally.

Teng spanners are excellent value/quality, but the screwdrivers aren't much cop IMO. I absolutely love the red 'plastic' Teng ratchet handles (3/8 and 1/2").

Kamasa spanners are great value/quality. Facom spanners are really nice, but I'm not sure there're much better than any other...

Halfords Advanced spanners and socketry is very good, but screwdrivers are dreadful.

For impact sockets, cheap Chinese ones are fine IMO; I use them all day every day.

The idea of buying a single brand, or a massive kit is bonkers IMO.

hellorent

89 posts

23 months

Monday 19th October
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ as above.

dug294

4 posts

2 months

Tuesday 20th October
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To clarify I'm talking about a starter set of combi spanners and sockets then adding items over time. I've no intention of buying just 1 brand or a massive kit

320d is all you need

670 posts

3 months

Tuesday 20th October
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dug294 said:
Hi guys I'm currently at college doing motor vehicle and I want to build up my tools. Snap on too dear was thinking of facom, maybe sealey premier thoughts or recommendations please
Have you considered something like this?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/1063931827243...

Absolutely no affiliation by the way.

It was simply the first link I could find.

There are lots of similar brands, they do the rounds on many Buy and Sell groups every so often.

Chinese of course, but with a decent set of drawers, and some tools, albeit of a lower quality - no harm if one breaks, and seems to have everything you'd need to start off with.


I'm going to buy one for my workshop (home) soon.

It should be noted that Halfords don't officially accept tool returns if used by the trade (Although, this is hard for them to prove).

I don't think you can get more tools for less money than a link like the above. Seems a great starting place for any home garage or apprentice?

Anything else you need I'd just buy used from online auction pages / Gumtree , or order it as and when you need it perhaps?



Edited by 320d is all you need on Tuesday 20th October 01:49

normalbloke

4,074 posts

179 months

Tuesday 20th October
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320d is all you need said:
dug294 said:
Hi guys I'm currently at college doing motor vehicle and I want to build up my tools. Snap on too dear was thinking of facom, maybe sealey premier thoughts or recommendations please
Have you considered something like this?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/1063931827243...

Absolutely no affiliation by the way.

It was simply the first link I could find.

There are lots of similar brands, they do the rounds on many Buy and Sell groups every so often.

Chinese of course, but with a decent set of drawers, and some tools, albeit of a lower quality - no harm if one breaks, and seems to have everything you'd need to start off with.


I'm going to buy one for my workshop (home) soon.

It should be noted that Halfords don't officially accept tool returns if used by the trade (Although, this is hard for them to prove).

I don't think you can get more tools for less money than a link like the above. Seems a great starting place for any home garage or apprentice?

Anything else you need I'd just buy used from online auction pages / Gumtree , or order it as and when you need it perhaps?



Edited by 320d is all you need on Tuesday 20th October 01:49
These are terrible,terrible quality tools. You know how it’s going to be, when they’re sold originally on the Chinese sites for $100 per unit,are branded with various Germanic colours and names,then rock up here for about £400 a pop. Walk away.