Ford KA clutch squeaking

Ford KA clutch squeaking

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Connor-123456

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3 posts

47 months

Saturday 30th May 2020
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Sorry complete novice here.

09 Ford KA (girlfriends car)

The clutch has started making a loud squeaky sound when you press and lift off the pedal. This only seems to start after the car has been running for a little while and continues when the engine is turned off but once its been left for a while it stops. So when you drive the next day the sound is not initially there but starts up again shortly.

Trying to Google it but most things seem to link me to the actual pedal squeaking which isn't the case here, it coming from under the bonnet on the passenger side.

I'm hoping it's just going to be a WD-40 job but not exactly sure where it needs it.

I think the sound is coming from a part that is a tube with a part on the end that looks like it may be inflating and deflating like a pump when the clutch is pressed but I could be wrong.

Any help appreciated. Thanks

GreenV8S

30,194 posts

284 months

Saturday 30th May 2020
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WD40 won't do anything useful here except catch fire if you spray it on something that gets hot. If you have ruled out the pedal assembly then the noise is probably coming from the clutch release mechanism. I don't know that car, but the release mechanism is usually protected from road muck so you're unlikely to be able to access it without removing access panels and a lot of grovelling. I suggest you ask whether the people who service it can look at this next time it's in, and live with it until then.

paintman

7,687 posts

190 months

Saturday 30th May 2020
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Your description of the part says 'concentric clutch slave cylinder' which incorporates the clutch release bearing.
If that is the problem then replacement is a major job as the gearbox has to be separated from the engine & it's sensible to renew the clutch assembly whilst you're at it.
What mileage does the car show & has it had a new clutch at any time?
As already said, speak to whoever usually does your servicing.


Chris32345

2,086 posts

62 months

Saturday 30th May 2020
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Is it a MK2 Ka /fist 500 or the older shape?

Connor-123456

Original Poster:

3 posts

47 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Sorry it wouldn't let me reply yesterday.

It's on around 59k miles and I don't believe it's ever had a new clutch.

Not sure about the shape sorry.

I've uploaded a video to YouTube of the part where the sound seems to be coming from. It may not exactly be this part but definitely in that region. https://youtu.be/SszgNSTQhH8

Thanks for the responses

Chris32345

2,086 posts

62 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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You could try some wd40 on the clutch arm the large metal lever in the video
But is say it's more likely the slave cylinder by the noise sounds more plastic then Metal squeak so probably needs a new slave cylinder

paintman

7,687 posts

190 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Good news is that you don't have a concentric slave cylinder.

The rod with the rubber bits round it is part of the clutch slave cylinder.
Its end pushes on the clutch operating fork.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Ford-KA-MK2-1-2...

You could try a little oil - not WD40 - or grease on the rod end where it contacts the fork & on the part of the rod itself where in goes in & out of the slave cylinder.
If that doesn't work then it could be the pivot point on the other end of the fork inside the bell housing & I don't now if that is accessible.
If you need to replace the slave cylinder you would need to bleed it after fitting the new one.

GreenV8S

30,194 posts

284 months

Sunday 31st May 2020
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Chris32345 said:
You could try some wd40 on the clutch arm
WD40 (lanolin) is great at keeping moisture away from metal, but pretty poor as a penetrating oil, lubricant, and all the other things it gets used for. It isn't a general purpose spray oil (despite the marketing twaddle) and isn't the right thing to lubricate bearings and pivots.

Connor-123456

Original Poster:

3 posts

47 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Thank you

Mikebl

1 posts

37 months

Wednesday 31st March 2021
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Hi.....did you ever get to the bottom of the squeaking clutch? My wife’s has developed the same problem. Thanks

1kevin

1 posts

33 months

Thursday 15th July 2021
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Hi, did you solve the squeaky clutch problem?

My daughters Ford KA 2013 has got exactly the same problem and the vehicle has only done 44K.

I would be grateful if you could let me know what you did to resolve the issue.

Many thanks

Kevin

PostmanPat1978

1 posts

16 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Ressurecting this thread as I had the same issue on my 2009 Ford Ka Mk2 and people are likely to find their way here like I did via Google.

Problem: Creak/squeak at end of travel when pushing and releasing, more prominent when pushed and released slowly. After cooling down, would only occur after around 25 mins of driving so was always going to be a pain for garage to troubleshoot.

Note this is not a clutch 'squeal' one might hear in a ticking engine when clutch depressed - rather it's a friction squeak which you can feel in the pedal as you slowly move it in and out (a bit like a creaky door).

I just did a successful fix with my friend.

Disclaimer: I'm not a mechanic, this is not guaranteed to work, and as cars are very heavy and go very fast, you do this at your own, *potentially fatal* risk. A mechanic will probably need to help you with this - a mechanic friend helped me. (You'll need at least one friend to help with bleeding).

Solution: Ford Ka Mk2 (1.2 petrol) has same engine as fiat 500. This squeak is a common problem with the clutch slave cylinder so best to replace it. It's a cheap and accessible thing to attempt first.

This is the cylinder I bought for the 2009 Mk2 Ka (check the right model for your vehicle): LuK 512004510

These videos are *really* helpful and show the whole process but neither is clear on the bleeding (they are for Fiat 500, it was the same process for my Mk2 Ka).

https://youtu.be/kcCJH3EefbQ
https://youtu.be/IhIP_wdcW3A

For bleeding, I bought a 5mm diameter clear plastic tube from B&Q and a motorcycle brake bleed kit.

1. Got friend to sit in car.
2. Fixed tube (already connected to syringe) on nipple.
3. Opened bleed screw.
4. Friend slowly pushed fluid through with pedal.
5. Tightened screw while pedal still fully pressed.
6. Released pedal slowly.

This process will drain the brake/clutch fluid reservoir so keep that topped up if need be. Repeat until no more bubbles come through. I just needed to do it twice.

Works great now, no squeak and smooth pedal feel. I hope this helps someone else as it did for me.

Big thanks to Chris and Paintman on this thread who initially got me investigating the slave cylinder.

Edited by PostmanPat1978 on Friday 30th December 12:07


Edited by PostmanPat1978 on Friday 30th December 12:25