Jack Reacher - any good?

Jack Reacher - any good?

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Pothole

33,319 posts

250 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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Davey S2 said:
I like them but have gone off Lee Child since he chose Tom Cruise to play Reacher in the upcoming films.
He did NOT CHOOSE Tom Cruise. He just said he didn't mind.

Ayahuasca

26,807 posts

247 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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Pothole said:
Davey S2 said:
I like them but have gone off Lee Child since he chose Tom Cruise to play Reacher in the upcoming films.
He did NOT CHOOSE Tom Cruise. He just said he didn't mind.
The thing to realise is that the author set out deliberately to make his books ultra commercial. That's why they are easy-reading and set in the USA and have US characters even though he is British - the USA is a much bigger market and they prefer to buy 'American' books.

He doesn't mind slim diminuitive Tom Cruise playing 6'8" brick outhouse Reacher because a famous actor means even more financial success.

Can't knock him for it really.


Rollcage

11,326 posts

160 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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I'd thought that he didn't have a lot of choice in the matter - wasn't Cruise instrumental in getting the film made in the first place?

Obiwonkeyblokey

5,396 posts

208 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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Jesus H

Tom Cruise? the last person I would have guessed. this stinks of sell out with Cruise looking at the possibility of a series of films. The trailer looks ropey too. In the current book Reacher admits to not being a good driver. in the trailer hes hammering about like a getaway driver.


Pothole

33,319 posts

250 months

Thursday 27th September 2012
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Ayahuasca said:
Pothole said:
Davey S2 said:
I like them but have gone off Lee Child since he chose Tom Cruise to play Reacher in the upcoming films.
He did NOT CHOOSE Tom Cruise. He just said he didn't mind.
The thing to realise is that the author set out deliberately to make his books ultra commercial. That's why they are easy-reading and set in the USA and have US characters even though he is British - the USA is a much bigger market and they prefer to buy 'American' books.

He doesn't mind slim diminuitive Tom Cruise playing 6'8" brick outhouse Reacher because a famous actor means even more financial success.

Can't knock him for it really.

Thanks. I'm fully aware of the process. Davey doesn't appear to be.

RS16i

915 posts

162 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Just about to finish the latest offering tonight,i thought it took a while to get going compared to previous books but yet i still can't seem to put it down.

Think i've only got 3 left to get for the whole collection.

I do love a good Reacher story biggrin



Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

223 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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I quite enjoy the Reacher books, but they are best reserved for those times when you don't want to put any effort into reading a book (i.e. brain out) and I do find the writing style slightly annoying in parts where the authors uses dozens of very short sentences to describe something. The McNab books are much better IMO, but there are several authors mentioned on this thread that I will need to check out, so thanks to all who made suggestions.

Davey S2

12,655 posts

222 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Pothole said:
Ayahuasca said:
Pothole said:
Davey S2 said:
I like them but have gone off Lee Child since he chose Tom Cruise to play Reacher in the upcoming films.
He did NOT CHOOSE Tom Cruise. He just said he didn't mind.
The thing to realise is that the author set out deliberately to make his books ultra commercial. That's why they are easy-reading and set in the USA and have US characters even though he is British - the USA is a much bigger market and they prefer to buy 'American' books.

He doesn't mind slim diminuitive Tom Cruise playing 6'8" brick outhouse Reacher because a famous actor means even more financial success.

Can't knock him for it really.

Thanks. I'm fully aware of the process. Davey doesn't appear to be.
rolleyes

Does it really matter? The fact is you couldnt pick an actor further removed from the character.

I fully understand why he doesn't mind Tom Cruise playing the rols but it just comes across as a bit of a sell out.

Liam Neeson would have been a far better choice and would still be a big box office draw.

Pothole

33,319 posts

250 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Davey S2 said:
Pothole said:
Ayahuasca said:
Pothole said:
Davey S2 said:
I like them but have gone off Lee Child since he chose Tom Cruise to play Reacher in the upcoming films.
He did NOT CHOOSE Tom Cruise. He just said he didn't mind.
The thing to realise is that the author set out deliberately to make his books ultra commercial. That's why they are easy-reading and set in the USA and have US characters even though he is British - the USA is a much bigger market and they prefer to buy 'American' books.

He doesn't mind slim diminuitive Tom Cruise playing 6'8" brick outhouse Reacher because a famous actor means even more financial success.

Can't knock him for it really.

Thanks. I'm fully aware of the process. Davey doesn't appear to be.
rolleyes

Does it really matter? The fact is you couldnt pick an actor further removed from the character.

I fully understand why he doesn't mind Tom Cruise playing the rols but it just comes across as a bit of a sell out.

Liam Neeson would have been a far better choice and would still be a big box office draw.
It matters that anyone would think that an author gets to cast the movie of his book(s). To me. Also, how exactly does a mainstream bestselling author 'sell out'?

Davey S2

12,655 posts

222 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Quite sensitive about this aren't you?

You think Tom Cruise is a good choice to play a 6ft 4, 250 lb hard man?


Pothole

33,319 posts

250 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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I think he's a completely ridiculous choice, but then nobody could ever say Hollywood and the rest of the fim industry is anything but ridiculous in most of what it does. I don't blame Lee Child for a second, though. Nor do I think blaming him, or anyone else, will change anything. I won't be going to see the film as I don't support Scientology - directly or indirectly. It won't impinge on my life at all.

Oakey

26,200 posts

184 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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It wouldn't be so bad if Child didn't rub our noses in it constantly.

This is about page 2 in the new book;

"Reacher was a big man, six feet five inches tall, heavily built and that night as always he looked a little ragged and unkempt"

Then, at the back of the book, it has Reachers 'CV' including his height, weight, chest size, etc.

The new book sucks as well. I have no idea what the bad guys motivation was.

Pothole

33,319 posts

250 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Oakey said:
It wouldn't be so bad if Child didn't rub our noses in it constantly.

This is about page 2 in the new book;

"Reacher was a big man, six feet five inches tall, heavily built and that night as always he looked a little ragged and unkempt"

Then, at the back of the book, it has Reachers 'CV' including his height, weight, chest size, etc.

The new book sucks as well. I have no idea what the bad guys motivation was.
He was a bad guy? I haven't read it yet, so just being facetious.

Futuramic

1,763 posts

173 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Oakey said:
It wouldn't be so bad if Child didn't rub our noses in it constantly.

This is about page 2 in the new book;

"Reacher was a big man, six feet five inches tall, heavily built and that night as always he looked a little ragged and unkempt"

Then, at the back of the book, it has Reachers 'CV' including his height, weight, chest size, etc.

The new book sucks as well. I have no idea what the bad guys motivation was.
Child's writing style, if quoted correctly above, is abysmal!

Huff

2,724 posts

159 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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We know, but it is typical of the challenging contextual narrative asserted by this auteur.

Welshbeef

44,915 posts

166 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Really good honest books sure you can buy better written or more devious thrillers but you know what your getting with this one.

I read two then bought the series on the bay all hard backs read once for £25 considering its 16 books that's going to last me. Mind I don't read them back to back so I've years of books awaiting

niccis dad

181 posts

114 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Gargamel said:
Have read five or six now, mostly on Aeroplanes when I can't manage my copy of War & Peace or Crime & Punishment wink

I quite like the observational stuff in them and the description of down at heel small town America. Reads more like a modern version of Kung Fu (hero arrives in town, fixes stuff by beating people up or killing them, then moves on)

But all in all I enjoy them, I don't worry about the snob value of reading something, its just a question of entertainment.
I think you've hit it on the head there. The observational stuff of that scrag end of American society is so sympathetically but brutally honestly described.

I do wonder if , as a Brit, Lee Child paints a more accurate reflection of small town America. He's certainly very good at this sort of detail. I think that he's very good at describing American culture from the outside, whilst making it feel it's from the inside. Wonderful stuff, love the Jack Reacher character , but, Tom fking Cruise? Having a laff are'nt you?

Welshbeef

44,915 posts

166 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Which book is the film based on? Killing floor?

RDMcG

16,440 posts

175 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Harmless airplane reading,but pretty formulaic. He typically seems to kill about a dozen people a book,forms a meaningful relationship with an attractive woman,solves the problems in the town he is in, and leaves her and walks away owning nothing but the clothes he is wearing,some small change and his toothbrush. Oddly,he never seems to have toothpaste or a razor.I would guess he has killed 250 people and maimed a thousand at least.

NDA

18,120 posts

193 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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I suspect he uses a DE razor. smile

I'm reading Reacher at the moment and am quite enjoying it - not a hard read and pure nonsense. Perfect.

1. Reacher drifts into town
2. Meets a slim woman with a tanned and firm physique just visible under her white cotton shirt.
3. She needs help
4. He kills the baddies
5. Reacher drifts out of town.

I hope I haven't spoiled it for anyone.