Audi to join F1 in 2016
Discussion
ajprice said:
Shouldn't it also be tarnishing the Quattro brand? Should it run with Quattro with a capital Q or lower case one?F1 isn't the pinnacle of motor sport. Why would VAG want the brand anywhere near it?
It's the Bill Hicks marketing sketch. What is 'suck a tail pipe' in German?
I can't see anything Audi have to gain by entering F1, Porsche or no Porsche.
So, they have epic victorious history rallying, DTM, BTCC, ETC, WTCC< Le Mans - why risk anything for F1? They're not a sports brand at heart, and LM shows off Ultra / Hybrid perfectly. Rallying is perfect for Quattro.
Even if they win F1, will it really sell that many more S line 2.0 TDi's?
So, they have epic victorious history rallying, DTM, BTCC, ETC, WTCC< Le Mans - why risk anything for F1? They're not a sports brand at heart, and LM shows off Ultra / Hybrid perfectly. Rallying is perfect for Quattro.
Even if they win F1, will it really sell that many more S line 2.0 TDi's?
DuckAvenger said:
Ah, you mean the cars that competed in the European Championship in the late 1930s? That wasn't the F1 World Championship, which did not begin until after WWII.T
Presumably you have seen the Las Vegas wants GP, now that Austin has worked out the sums do not balance.
IforB said:
What are the chances that this is just a Bernie sourced "Throw something potentially positive out there whilst the real story of 18 cars on the grid and potentially others going to the wall and creating a disaster" distraction story?
Better than 50:50.Presumably you have seen the Las Vegas wants GP, now that Austin has worked out the sums do not balance.
IforB said:
What are the chances that this is just a Bernie sourced "Throw something potentially positive out there whilst the real story of 18 cars on the grid and potentially others going to the wall and creating a disaster" distraction story?
Exactly. It was smart work from an F1 Insider to stir up this story in a mass market motoring magazine. This means tens of thousands of readers are talking about the entry of a global brand into F1, which offsets the minority of us fans that know what a Caterham or Marussia is.Volkswagen group,or any other manufacturer,won't be entering an F1 team until there's some kind of shareholder franchise scheme set up that gives them an equal voice and a safe return on investment.
This Audi story is distraction PR from a business that's having a tough few weeks.
DuckAvenger said:
Condescending knob. I know the origins of Audi, but your logic says that Porsche should enter the tractor pulling championship, because it's core to the brand - clearly it's not.How many statements from Audi over the years saying F1 adds nothing to the tech of current road cars unlike the WEC?
And it strikes me that many of the major manufacturers are starting to agree, LMP1 next year is looking like a corker. Audi, Porsche, Toyota, Nissan and I'll include Lotus, because I like a giggle. Also, the ongoing speculation around Ford making a full return.
Audi to F1? Its not happening and it smells like 100% BE bullst to distract from the perilous state of the back of the F1 grid.
And it strikes me that many of the major manufacturers are starting to agree, LMP1 next year is looking like a corker. Audi, Porsche, Toyota, Nissan and I'll include Lotus, because I like a giggle. Also, the ongoing speculation around Ford making a full return.
Audi to F1? Its not happening and it smells like 100% BE bullst to distract from the perilous state of the back of the F1 grid.
Edited by ellroy on Monday 27th October 16:25
I think you'll find I posted up rumours of this back on 01.04.13.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=126...
OK so I got some of the finer details confused, but the general gist was spot-on!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=126...
OK so I got some of the finer details confused, but the general gist was spot-on!
carinaman said:
Shouldn't it also be tarnishing the Quattro brand? Should it run with Quattro with a capital Q or lower case one?
F1 isn't the pinnacle of motor sport. Why would VAG want the brand anywhere near it?
It's the Bill Hicks marketing sketch. What is 'suck a tail pipe' in German?
So what do you consider the pinnacle?F1 isn't the pinnacle of motor sport. Why would VAG want the brand anywhere near it?
It's the Bill Hicks marketing sketch. What is 'suck a tail pipe' in German?
Scuffers said:
thatdude said:
Will they take the desmodromic valve system from Ducati?
read the engine regs.Unless you can get excited about clever positioning of a fourth winglet
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