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Otispunkmeyer said:
Sky are very confusing...they have sky go? But the also a dedicated sky sports app that you can sub to and then you can go with their now tv service and pay £195 up front for all races.
Why dont they just have one option?
Sky Go requires you to have Sky, whereas the app does not. Or, if you wish to be more confused, you can watch Sky Sports without having Sky via NowTV - which also has an app. Also owned and operated by... Sky.Why dont they just have one option?
Basically, throw your money in any direction where you see an F1 logo, Sky will catch it
Your one option, is Sky. Sadly.
Edited by TheDeuce on Thursday 14th March 23:35
Emeye said:
I don't see why not - Sky Go allows streaming to two devices at once I think. If you want to watch it on an Xbox/playstation you have to pay for Sky Go Extra with is an extra fiver.
Stuff like this is why I hate and will never pay for Sky. So you've already paid for the access to their channel, but want to watch it on a device of your choice and you have to pay half as much again. Criminal.TheDeuce said:
El stovey said:
TV Generally speaking it’s all a bit messed up at the moment.
Sure there’s an amazing amount of great stuff to watch but is it on terrestrial is it on netflix? Is it on amazon or sky or bt?
So many different providers all with different content.
It'll die down in a couple of decades! Sure there’s an amazing amount of great stuff to watch but is it on terrestrial is it on netflix? Is it on amazon or sky or bt?
So many different providers all with different content.
What we need is a Spotify type solution for TV&Film. If it's on TV, or has ever been on TV, have it all available in one place for one monthly charge. It will surely end up that way at some point, but the current transition from FTV to PTV TV, in all it's many forms and platforms is indeed messy.
The ‘ossification’ by the main content tv/film providers means that what happened with music just won’t be allowed to work with the way the industry is currently set (or split) up.
I was talking to a guy on a flight recently who works for NBC. His view was that the war for content and strict ownership of that content - not sharing - will define the next few years and likely get even worse. The average customer will not be the beneficiary in the short term.
I’m a TV baby so I’m silly and have it all: Prime, Netflix, Bell TV, Hula, Sky, Movistar...like an addict
Andy S15 said:
Emeye said:
I don't see why not - Sky Go allows streaming to two devices at once I think. If you want to watch it on an Xbox/playstation you have to pay for Sky Go Extra with is an extra fiver.
Stuff like this is why I hate and will never pay for Sky. So you've already paid for the access to their channel, but want to watch it on a device of your choice and you have to pay half as much again. Criminal.tigerkoi said:
TheDeuce said:
El stovey said:
TV Generally speaking it’s all a bit messed up at the moment.
Sure there’s an amazing amount of great stuff to watch but is it on terrestrial is it on netflix? Is it on amazon or sky or bt?
So many different providers all with different content.
It'll die down in a couple of decades! Sure there’s an amazing amount of great stuff to watch but is it on terrestrial is it on netflix? Is it on amazon or sky or bt?
So many different providers all with different content.
What we need is a Spotify type solution for TV&Film. If it's on TV, or has ever been on TV, have it all available in one place for one monthly charge. It will surely end up that way at some point, but the current transition from FTV to PTV TV, in all it's many forms and platforms is indeed messy.
The ‘ossification’ by the main content tv/film providers means that what happened with music just won’t be allowed to work with the way the industry is currently set (or split) up.
I was talking to a guy on a flight recently who works for NBC. His view was that the war for content and strict ownership of that content - not sharing - will define the next few years and likely get even worse. The average customer will not be the beneficiary in the short term.
In between now and then, we all have free choice over what we pay to watch. By which I mean, most of us pay more than we ever used to!!! But it's a small part of life really. Things evolve.
rscott said:
Andy S15 said:
Emeye said:
I don't see why not - Sky Go allows streaming to two devices at once I think. If you want to watch it on an Xbox/playstation you have to pay for Sky Go Extra with is an extra fiver.
Stuff like this is why I hate and will never pay for Sky. So you've already paid for the access to their channel, but want to watch it on a device of your choice and you have to pay half as much again. Criminal.swisstoni said:
The poxy £5 or whatever it was for the privilege of HD is what used to do my head in. 
In practice most of these charges are easily waived whether you're a new customer or coming to the end of your minimum term. My negotiating abilities are non existent but at the point my renewal came up I just went on Sky Live Chat and said the new cost (my monthly fee was due to more than double) was not sustainable. They disappeared for 5 minutes and came back with a dratsically reduced bill with nearly all the small extra fees deleted. I took out a NOW TV free 7-day trial yesterday. Entertainment package - they don't do Sky Sports on a free trial. But the race is on Sky One this weekend.
The quality is not optimal, but I wasn't too disappointed. Watched the F1 show which was on last night.
Bonus - watched the first few episodes of 'Westworld'. Excellent show. Sky might get a bit more money out of me yet, if I can't get through 18 episodes in 7 days!
The quality is not optimal, but I wasn't too disappointed. Watched the F1 show which was on last night.
Bonus
- watched the first few episodes of 'Westworld'. Excellent show. Sky might get a bit more money out of me yet, if I can't get through 18 episodes in 7 days! ukaskew said:
swisstoni said:
The poxy £5 or whatever it was for the privilege of HD is what used to do my head in.
In practice most of these charges are easily waived whether you're a new customer or coming to the end of your minimum term. My negotiating abilities are non existent but at the point my renewal came up I just went on Sky Live Chat and said the new cost (my monthly fee was due to more than double) was not sustainable. They disappeared for 5 minutes and came back with a dratsically reduced bill with nearly all the small extra fees deleted. Can’t believe what we used to hand over to them every month.
ukaskew said:
In practice most of these charges are easily waived whether you're a new customer or coming to the end of your minimum term. My negotiating abilities are non existent but at the point my renewal came up I just went on Sky Live Chat and said the new cost (my monthly fee was due to more than double) was not sustainable. They disappeared for 5 minutes and came back with a dratsically reduced bill with nearly all the small extra fees deleted.
I'm amazed at the amount of people who seem to accept this as a way of doing business. If you hadn't complained they would have happily charged you double the rate. At that point I would (and I have with other companies that try the same tactic) have told them to stuff their offer where the sun don't shine and cancelled.Kraken said:
I'm amazed at the amount of people who seem to accept this as a way of doing business. If you hadn't complained they would have happily charged you double the rate. At that point I would (and I have with other companies that try the same tactic) have told them to stuff their offer where the sun don't shine and cancelled.
God, don't get me started!Broadband, utilities, various insurances, all the f
king same. Yearly dance about to get the best price. Pain in the ass and actually quite time consuming.
Kraken said:
ukaskew said:
In practice most of these charges are easily waived whether you're a new customer or coming to the end of your minimum term. My negotiating abilities are non existent but at the point my renewal came up I just went on Sky Live Chat and said the new cost (my monthly fee was due to more than double) was not sustainable. They disappeared for 5 minutes and came back with a dratsically reduced bill with nearly all the small extra fees deleted.
I'm amazed at the amount of people who seem to accept this as a way of doing business. If you hadn't complained they would have happily charged you double the rate. At that point I would (and I have with other companies that try the same tactic) have told them to stuff their offer where the sun don't shine and cancelled.MissChief said:
The thing is, many don't realise for a few months or even continue to pay full price for many years. It is, after all, the standard price.
That's presumably how they make that business model viable. My parents were paying exactly triple what we do for the exact same package and were none the wiser. A quick live chat and they saved themselves £30 a month (£540 over the term). El stovey said:
TV Generally speaking it’s all a bit messed up at the moment.
Sure there’s an amazing amount of great stuff to watch but is it on terrestrial is it on netflix? Is it on amazon or sky or bt?
So many different providers all with different content.
This site is quite useful for tracking stuff down (not sports, unfortunately):Sure there’s an amazing amount of great stuff to watch but is it on terrestrial is it on netflix? Is it on amazon or sky or bt?
So many different providers all with different content.
https://www.justwatch.com/uk
Unfortunately, things are likely to get worse in the near term as every big 'content provider' looks to start their own streaming service (in the US, at least) whereas up until now they were happy to put it out on one of 2 or 3 established streaming services. Reason: they think that people are going to pay a large amount to see their 'exclusive content' - which I think will turn out badly for most of the new entrants.
You'd have to pay for 5 or 6 different subs to get good coverage vs maybe 2 or 3 at the moment. Amazon Prime + Netflix currently offer a great lineup for less than the monthly price of a basic Sky package, for example.
C4 coverage doesn’t seem too bad so far. Retained Mark Webber and have got stefano dominicali as a pundit. Not convinced on monger yet not sure what he really offers.
The cut down of the highlights is quite noticeable but I have noticed they have cut out the guff before/after the session (like the F1TV track/driver guide) So they can squeeze in more actually driving. No pit lane reporter now either. Pen interviews are not as good as they just take the sky ones but cut out the questions from the sky interviewer and added a c4 strip on the bottom to try and sort of cover up the sky microphone.
Will see what the race is like tomorrow
The cut down of the highlights is quite noticeable but I have noticed they have cut out the guff before/after the session (like the F1TV track/driver guide) So they can squeeze in more actually driving. No pit lane reporter now either. Pen interviews are not as good as they just take the sky ones but cut out the questions from the sky interviewer and added a c4 strip on the bottom to try and sort of cover up the sky microphone.
Will see what the race is like tomorrow
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