F1 on Channel 4

[MissChief]

garyhun said:

Billy monger has developed into a very good pundit. Prefer him to DC for his insight.

Yet Naomi Schiff is given endless criticism because she’s never raced in F1. Surely Billy should get the same criticism as he also never raced F1. Or F2 for that matter. Of course he doesn’t though, and I think we all know why.

[garyhun]

MissChief said:

garyhun said:

Billy monger has developed into a very good pundit. Prefer him to DC for his insight.

Yet Naomi Schiff is given endless criticism because she’s never raced in F1. Surely Billy should get the same criticism as he also never raced F1. Or F2 for that matter. Of course he doesn’t though, and I think we all know why.

I was actually quite critical of Billy when he started as he was awful. As with all roles in life, it takes time to adjust and develop and gain confidence and ability.

Criticism doesn’t always happen to be about vested interests, sometimes it’s simply because the person isn’t good enough.

I’ve not watched/heard Naomi much because I’m normally fast forwarding to the action on C4 catch-up, so can’t really comment on her abilities.

[jsf]

MissChief said:

Yet Naomi Schiff is given endless criticism because she’s never raced in F1. Surely Billy should get the same criticism as he also never raced F1. Or F2 for that matter. Of course he doesn’t though, and I think we all know why.

I don't agree with your statement.

But go on, tell us why.

[Mr Tidy]

I thought Naomi was pretty hopeless, but then C4 wheeled out Ariana!

[CoolHands]

I previously read a bio on adriana, she basically doesn’t know or come from anything to do with f1 or racing, but was simply interested in presenting, and went for it! Seems there were / are so few woman that are into it, she walked straight in.

[Milkyway]

Both nice girls... but Lee McKenzie still gets my vote.

[g4ry13]

Mr Tidy said:

I thought Naomi was pretty hopeless, but then C4 wheeled out Ariana!

She seemed more occupied faffing with her hair every second and making sure the camera was on her favourite angle.

[rider73]

The Red Bull Racing presents Formula1 on C4 - sorry i mean, Whisper productions...

[kimducati]

PhilAsia said:

I watched it a little today and found the posturing of the crowd in the background, pretending not to realise the camera presence and those knowingly actively, and gormlessly, staring at the camera hilarious.

And in a similar vein, when people see themselves on a screen, they wave at the screen, not at the camera - why?????
Kim

[kimducati]

rider73 said:

The Red Bull Racing presents Formula1 on C4 - sorry i mean, Whisper productions...

I actually thought hat they'd dialled the pro RB content back a bit - maybe I wasn't paying attention!!
Tbh given that I can't (won't) afford to pay for Sky so I can only watch highlights, I tend to skip through anything that doesn't have cars moving on the track, but for instance I don't recall them immediately calling out Russell for the Perez incident, which in my view last year they'd have been pretty vocal about.
Maybe just me.
Kim

[Swervin_Mervin]

kimducati said:

rider73 said:

The Red Bull Racing presents Formula1 on C4 - sorry i mean, Whisper productions...

I actually thought hat they'd dialled the pro RB content back a bit - maybe I wasn't paying attention!!
Tbh given that I can't (won't) afford to pay for Sky so I can only watch highlights, I tend to skip through anything that doesn't have cars moving on the track, but for instance I don't recall them immediately calling out Russell for the Perez incident, which in my view last year they'd have been pretty vocal about.
Maybe just me.
Kim

It was quite the opposite I thought. DC even remarking that he was surprised Perez would even attempt to go round the outside at turn 4 given how that's worked out for him before. And that GR gave him as much space as he could.

It actually stood out to me when he said that as I would've expected him to be neutral at best.

[KaraK]

Swervin_Mervin said:

It was quite the opposite I thought. DC even remarking that he was surprised Perez would even attempt to go round the outside at turn 4 given how that's worked out for him before. And that GR gave him as much space as he could.

It actually stood out to me when he said that as I would've expected him to be neutral at best.

DC had obviously had his notes from Marko

Mind you, I'd put good money on it that if it had been the other Red Bull driver Dr Evil would be singing a very different tune...

[rider73]

yes exactly, DC - pile on the pressure the RBR #2 driver that everyone in RBR want to just play second fiddle to Max and not try and show him up by winning races and challenging for the wins - because thats always worked out for RBR in the past ..........

[thiscocks]

MissChief said:

garyhun said:

Billy monger has developed into a very good pundit. Prefer him to DC for his insight.

Yet Naomi Schiff is given endless criticism because she’s never raced in F1. Surely Billy should get the same criticism as he also never raced F1. Or F2 for that matter. Of course he doesn’t though, and I think we all know why.

Since when has Schiff developed into a very good pundit?

[The Vambo]

MissChief said:

garyhun said:

Billy monger has developed into a very good pundit. Prefer him to DC for his insight.

Yet Naomi Schiff is given endless criticism because she’s never raced in F1. Surely Billy should get the same criticism as he also never raced F1. Or F2 for that matter. Of course he doesn’t though, and I think we all know why.

If Ted Kravitz wasn't white and male this forum would in big big trouble.

[Gazzab]

The Vambo said:

MissChief said:

garyhun said:

Billy monger has developed into a very good pundit. Prefer him to DC for his insight.

Yet Naomi Schiff is given endless criticism because she’s never raced in F1. Surely Billy should get the same criticism as he also never raced F1. Or F2 for that matter. Of course he doesn’t though, and I think we all know why.

If Ted Kravitz wasn't white and male this forum would in big big trouble.

Have you seen his pins?

[HustleRussell]

Everyone and everything ‘roaring’ in Budapest, anyone notice?

[DBSV8]

Mr Tidy said:

I thought Naomi was pretty hopeless, but then C4 wheeled out Ariana!

who the f.... thought it would be a good idea to employ this woman , ,,, some giggling ,irritating in experienced wannabee , zero input into motor racing

zero experience .......I mean why ??

, if they needed a women why couldn't they employ Abbie Eaton

[carl_w]

DBSV8 said:

, if they needed a women why couldn't they employ Abbie Eaton

Have you not noticed that Abbie Eaton has other priorities on some GP weekends?

[cuprabob]

DBSV8 said:

Mr Tidy said:

I thought Naomi was pretty hopeless, but then C4 wheeled out Ariana!

who the f.... thought it would be a good idea to employ this woman , ,,, some giggling ,irritating in experienced wannabee , zero input into motor racing

zero experience .......I mean why ??

, if they needed a women why couldn't they employ Abbie Eaton

They sometimes have Alice Powell as a pundit.

Edited by cuprabob on Tuesday 2nd August 17:34