F1 on Channel 4

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MissChief

6,399 posts

148 months

Sunday 10th July
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garyhun said:
Billy monger has developed into a very good pundit. Prefer him to DC for his insight.
Yet Naomi Schiff is given endless criticism because she’s never raced in F1. Surely Billy should get the same criticism as he also never raced F1. Or F2 for that matter. Of course he doesn’t though, and I think we all know why.

garyhun

33,104 posts

208 months

Sunday 10th July
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MissChief said:
garyhun said:
Billy monger has developed into a very good pundit. Prefer him to DC for his insight.
Yet Naomi Schiff is given endless criticism because she’s never raced in F1. Surely Billy should get the same criticism as he also never raced F1. Or F2 for that matter. Of course he doesn’t though, and I think we all know why.
I was actually quite critical of Billy when he started as he was awful. As with all roles in life, it takes time to adjust and develop and gain confidence and ability.

Criticism doesn’t always happen to be about vested interests, sometimes it’s simply because the person isn’t good enough.

I’ve not watched/heard Naomi much because I’m normally fast forwarding to the action on C4 catch-up, so can’t really comment on her abilities.

jsf

26,814 posts

216 months

Sunday 10th July
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MissChief said:
Yet Naomi Schiff is given endless criticism because she’s never raced in F1. Surely Billy should get the same criticism as he also never raced F1. Or F2 for that matter. Of course he doesn’t though, and I think we all know why.
I don't agree with your statement.

But go on, tell us why.

Mr Tidy

17,702 posts

107 months

Tuesday 12th July
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I thought Naomi was pretty hopeless, but then C4 wheeled out Ariana!

CoolHands

15,634 posts

175 months

Tuesday 12th July
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I previously read a bio on adriana, she basically doesn’t know or come from anything to do with f1 or racing, but was simply interested in presenting, and went for it! Seems there were / are so few woman that are into it, she walked straight in.

Milkyway

4,667 posts

33 months

Tuesday 12th July
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Both nice girls... but Lee McKenzie still gets my vote. thumbup

g4ry13

14,339 posts

235 months

Tuesday 12th July
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Mr Tidy said:
I thought Naomi was pretty hopeless, but then C4 wheeled out Ariana!
She seemed more occupied faffing with her hair every second and making sure the camera was on her favourite angle.

rider73

2,432 posts

57 months

Tuesday 12th July
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The Red Bull Racing presents Formula1 on C4 - sorry i mean, Whisper productions...


kimducati

301 posts

144 months

Tuesday 12th July
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PhilAsia said:
I watched it a little today and found the posturing of the crowd in the background, pretending not to realise the camera presence and those knowingly actively, and gormlessly, staring at the camera hilarious.
And in a similar vein, when people see themselves on a screen, they wave at the screen, not at the camera - why?????confused
Kim

kimducati

301 posts

144 months

Tuesday 12th July
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rider73 said:
The Red Bull Racing presents Formula1 on C4 - sorry i mean, Whisper productions...

I actually thought hat they'd dialled the pro RB content back a bit - maybe I wasn't paying attention!!
Tbh given that I can't (won't) afford to pay for Sky so I can only watch highlights, I tend to skip through anything that doesn't have cars moving on the track, but for instance I don't recall them immediately calling out Russell for the Perez incident, which in my view last year they'd have been pretty vocal about.
Maybe just me.
Kim

Swervin_Mervin

3,974 posts

218 months

Tuesday 12th July
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kimducati said:
rider73 said:
The Red Bull Racing presents Formula1 on C4 - sorry i mean, Whisper productions...

I actually thought hat they'd dialled the pro RB content back a bit - maybe I wasn't paying attention!!
Tbh given that I can't (won't) afford to pay for Sky so I can only watch highlights, I tend to skip through anything that doesn't have cars moving on the track, but for instance I don't recall them immediately calling out Russell for the Perez incident, which in my view last year they'd have been pretty vocal about.
Maybe just me.
Kim
It was quite the opposite I thought. DC even remarking that he was surprised Perez would even attempt to go round the outside at turn 4 given how that's worked out for him before. And that GR gave him as much space as he could.

It actually stood out to me when he said that as I would've expected him to be neutral at best.

KaraK

12,626 posts

189 months

Tuesday 12th July
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Swervin_Mervin said:
It was quite the opposite I thought. DC even remarking that he was surprised Perez would even attempt to go round the outside at turn 4 given how that's worked out for him before. And that GR gave him as much space as he could.

It actually stood out to me when he said that as I would've expected him to be neutral at best.
DC had obviously had his notes from Marko

Mind you, I'd put good money on it that if it had been the other Red Bull driver Dr Evil would be singing a very different tune...

rider73

2,432 posts

57 months

Tuesday 12th July
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yes exactly, DC - pile on the pressure the RBR #2 driver that everyone in RBR want to just play second fiddle to Max and not try and show him up by winning races and challenging for the wins - because thats always worked out for RBR in the past ..........

thiscocks

2,863 posts

175 months

Tuesday 12th July
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MissChief said:
garyhun said:
Billy monger has developed into a very good pundit. Prefer him to DC for his insight.
Yet Naomi Schiff is given endless criticism because she’s never raced in F1. Surely Billy should get the same criticism as he also never raced F1. Or F2 for that matter. Of course he doesn’t though, and I think we all know why.
Since when has Schiff developed into a very good pundit?

The Vambo

5,926 posts

121 months

Tuesday 12th July
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MissChief said:
garyhun said:
Billy monger has developed into a very good pundit. Prefer him to DC for his insight.
Yet Naomi Schiff is given endless criticism because she’s never raced in F1. Surely Billy should get the same criticism as he also never raced F1. Or F2 for that matter. Of course he doesn’t though, and I think we all know why.
laugh If Ted Kravitz wasn't white and male this forum would in big big trouble.

Gazzab

19,873 posts

262 months

Tuesday 12th July
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The Vambo said:
MissChief said:
garyhun said:
Billy monger has developed into a very good pundit. Prefer him to DC for his insight.
Yet Naomi Schiff is given endless criticism because she’s never raced in F1. Surely Billy should get the same criticism as he also never raced F1. Or F2 for that matter. Of course he doesn’t though, and I think we all know why.
laugh If Ted Kravitz wasn't white and male this forum would in big big trouble.
Have you seen his pins?

HustleRussell

22,018 posts

140 months

Monday 1st August
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Everyone and everything ‘roaring’ in Budapest, anyone notice?

DBSV8

5,600 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd August
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Mr Tidy said:
I thought Naomi was pretty hopeless, but then C4 wheeled out Ariana!
who the f.... thought it would be a good idea to employ this woman , ,,, some giggling ,irritating in experienced wannabee , zero input into motor racing

zero experience .......I mean why ??

, if they needed a women why couldn't they employ Abbie Eaton

carl_w

7,759 posts

238 months

Tuesday 2nd August
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DBSV8 said:
, if they needed a women why couldn't they employ Abbie Eaton
Have you not noticed that Abbie Eaton has other priorities on some GP weekends?

cuprabob

11,538 posts

194 months

Tuesday 2nd August
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DBSV8 said:
Mr Tidy said:
I thought Naomi was pretty hopeless, but then C4 wheeled out Ariana!
who the f.... thought it would be a good idea to employ this woman , ,,, some giggling ,irritating in experienced wannabee , zero input into motor racing

zero experience .......I mean why ??

, if they needed a women why couldn't they employ Abbie Eaton
They sometimes have Alice Powell as a pundit.


Edited by cuprabob on Tuesday 2nd August 17:34