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longblackcoat

5,047 posts

183 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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anonymous said:
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I have no idea why you’re so angry, but I really don’t give a st. Work out why people don’t like your views for yourself.

Nampahc Niloc

910 posts

78 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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He’s done the adult thing and asked you what’s wrong with his post. If you cannot answer that in an adult way that reflects badly on you.

HighwayStar

4,248 posts

144 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Bo_apex said:
paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
HighwayStar said:
Nice one for highlighting that... the whole issue is a subject few people really understand but plenty will have a very simplified view of racism, the causes of crime and what it’s like to be a black person let alone black in America. Especially Trumps America.
Was it really any better in Obama's America ?

The same problems persist.
Same problems, sure, but now there's an openly racist president too.
At least they have freedom of speech and the right to protest.
Hong Kong citizens are now completely fked !
Oh ok, let’s take no notice then... there’s something worse going on somewhere else.
As for at least they have freedom of speech... what good is that if the people in power aren’t listening or making real efforts to make things better for everyone?

And your were things better under Obama. Not utopia but compared to now, yes. Under Trump America is no longer respected or admired in the world as it once was. He blatantly lies about most things and disrespect other nations. He lays the blame for any problem at the feet of anyone he can, takes no responsibility and display no leadership.
Are you telling me Trump has made life for all America’s better since becoming POTUS? He certainly hasn’t made America great again

Bo_apex

2,534 posts

218 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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HighwayStar said:
Bo_apex said:
paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
HighwayStar said:
Nice one for highlighting that... the whole issue is a subject few people really understand but plenty will have a very simplified view of racism, the causes of crime and what it’s like to be a black person let alone black in America. Especially Trumps America.
Was it really any better in Obama's America ?

The same problems persist.
Same problems, sure, but now there's an openly racist president too.
At least they have freedom of speech and the right to protest.
Hong Kong citizens are now completely fked !
Oh ok, let’s take no notice then... there’s something worse going on somewhere else.
As for at least they have freedom of speech... what good is that if the people in power aren’t listening or making real efforts to make things better for everyone?

And your were things better under Obama. Not utopia but compared to now, yes. Under Trump America is no longer respected or admired in the world as it once was. He blatantly lies about most things and disrespect other nations. He lays the blame for any problem at the feet of anyone he can, takes no responsibility and display no leadership.
Are you telling me Trump has made life for all America’s better since becoming POTUS? He certainly hasn’t made America great again
I am no fan of Trump either.
He did however rebuild the economy to a strong level and increased employment.
That's all fallen to st now with China exporting CV19.
Melania is still hanging around so he must be doing something right

paulguitar

23,289 posts

113 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Bo_apex said:
I am no fan of Trump either.
He did however rebuild the economy to a strong level and increased employment.
I don't want to derail but trump absolutely did not 'rebuild' the economy.

He inherited an economy in good shape from Obama, and it continued along the same lines as it had been following, until COVID.

Obama's administration did rebuild the economy, having inherited the worst set of circumstances since the Great Depression.




thiscocks

3,128 posts

195 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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paulguitar said:
thiscocks said:
Also, I wonder if it were a white person that was mistakenly killed by police would it even make the news?
It certainly does make the news, yes. There was a case not too long ago of an Australian woman shot by mistake in the USA and it was massive news.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_...
Interesting thanks. Makes you wonder how in these instances nothing about race is mentioned? It's just trigger happy, overly force full cops. I can't see how race is relevant to it at all.

Ofcourse we never see on the news many of the hundreds of successful arrests U.S. cops make, while risking their lives everyday in gunland...

Bo_apex

2,534 posts

218 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
I am no fan of Trump either.
He did however rebuild the economy to a strong level and increased employment.
I don't want to derail but trump absolutely did not 'rebuild' the economy.

He inherited an economy in good shape from Obama, and it continued along the same lines as it had been following, until COVID.

Obama's administration did rebuild the economy, having inherited the worst set of circumstances since the Great Depression.
Trump managed to get growth upto 3.2%.
Ofcourse now they're printing new money to manipulate the impact of CV19, the US is adrift with a broken rudder.

A huge plunge is just around their penninsular.




Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Bo_apex said:
Trump managed to get growth upto 3.2%.
Ofcourse now they're printing new money to manipulate the impact of CV19, the US is adrift with a broken rudder.

A huge plunge is just around their penninsular.
Especially as a huge chunk of that growth came from fracking and associated industries which is now dead in the water with the drop in demand for oil. Racial tensions are only going to get worse as they slip into a massive recession.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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thiscocks said:
Interesting thanks. Makes you wonder how in these instances nothing about race is mentioned? It's just trigger happy, overly force full cops. I can't see how race is relevant to it at all.

Ofcourse we never see on the news many of the hundreds of successful arrests U.S. cops make, while risking their lives everyday in gunland...
Go and listen to the governor of new York he addressed exactly your question yesterday

It is not a matter of one black person being killed but repeated deaths of innocent black people mainly males being killed by police officers across the United States year in and year out.

Gary C

12,411 posts

179 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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majordad said:
It’s biased because most of the crime is committed by Black Americans. This guy while not in any way deserving being killed was was not an Angel. At the same time I’m surprised the police Officer who was pictured kneeling on him , and the other officer , had fired their guns in lethal manner times before.
Your surprised the officers had shot and killed before this day ?, is that what your saying ?

The US (maybe in general) has systemic problems

Training is ste
Selection is ste
Leadership is ste
Culture is ste


vdn

8,909 posts

203 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Is this Hamilton’s year? Have Ferrari found an edge? I think if the Mercedes is there or thereabouts - it will another WDC in the bag for Lewis. Having said that, Vettel has a point to prove and Leclerc is looking the real deal. Also, Max?

I hope Hamilton gets it done this year. What a year to do it; historic what with the virus shutting down the start to the season.

Bottas has one foot out of the door perhaps, also.

rscott

14,719 posts

191 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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America is a country he seems to have a great deal of affection for and also spends a lot of time there. It's no wonder that he feels the need to speak out on recent events there.

Bo_apex

2,534 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Kraken said:
Especially as a huge chunk of that growth came from fracking and associated industries which is now dead in the water with the drop in demand for oil. Racial tensions are only going to get worse as they slip into a massive recession.
Most certainly.
It's always been a fractious nation, ever since the Civil War.

Drawweight

2,877 posts

116 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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If you felt pressured to tweet/instagram about the shooting from Lewis would you do it?

Personally would I fk, purely out of principal.


andburg

7,273 posts

169 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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yes he pretty much forced f1 to come out and make comment on it but did they need to? Are we assuming because none of them made a statement they're all running round in white hats? I haven't posted anything about it anywhere, i don't need to its got enough attention.

yes those in the public eye should stand up and try to make change, but each has to pick their own battles that matter the most to them otherwise they'll all be preaching all the time and it will have no positive effect.

I think he should have made his statement yes, but no he should not have guilt tripped the rest of the paddock.

vdn

8,909 posts

203 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Drawweight said:
If you felt pressured to tweet/instagram about the shooting from Lewis would you do it?

Personally would I fk, purely out of principal.

I wouldn’t either. But what his post did do; is open the gate; albeit in a slapdash fashion, to other drivers feeling they could.

Leclerc’s post was quite strongly worded - and he made clear he had wanted to say something but felt it not his place. Fair play to Leclerc.

Cold

15,236 posts

90 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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Fixing the world, one Instagram selfie at a time. Repost if you agree and a tag five friends. If you don't then you're obviously a racist and should be shunned, shamed and exposed for the vile individual you are.

Next week, poverty in other countries. We can do this.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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vdn said:
I wouldn’t either. But what his post did do; is open the gate; albeit in a slapdash fashion, to other drivers feeling they could.

Leclerc’s post was quite strongly worded - and he made clear he had wanted to say something but felt it not his place. Fair play to Leclerc.
Some of the drivers are quite young, too. Not to say their opinion is less important, however you have other priorities in your early 20s to those heading towards middle age. They certainly shouldn't feel pressured to wade in to arguments they have little exposure to because they're told they should.

eccles

13,728 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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vdn said:
Drawweight said:
If you felt pressured to tweet/instagram about the shooting from Lewis would you do it?

Personally would I fk, purely out of principal.

I wouldn’t either. But what his post did do; is open the gate; albeit in a slapdash fashion, to other drivers feeling they could.

Leclerc’s post was quite strongly worded - and he made clear he had wanted to say something but felt it not his place. Fair play to Leclerc.
Of course LeClerc is going to say something like that, He's not exactly going to say 'I never noticed it, thanks Lewis for bringing it to my attention'

vdn

8,909 posts

203 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2020
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
vdn said:
I wouldn’t either. But what his post did do; is open the gate; albeit in a slapdash fashion, to other drivers feeling they could.

Leclerc’s post was quite strongly worded - and he made clear he had wanted to say something but felt it not his place. Fair play to Leclerc.
Some of the drivers are quite young, too. Not to say their opinion is less important, however you have other priorities in your early 20s to those heading towards middle age. They certainly shouldn't feel pressured to wade in to arguments they have little exposure to because they're told they should.
If they feel pressured; then they’re weak. Leclerc posted a heart felt message after explaining he had felt it hadn’t been his place to comment. Weak? No, I don’t think so.

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