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paulguitar

8,692 posts

72 months

Monday 1st June
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Bo_apex said:
I am no fan of Trump either.
He did however rebuild the economy to a strong level and increased employment.
I don't want to derail but trump absolutely did not 'rebuild' the economy.

He inherited an economy in good shape from Obama, and it continued along the same lines as it had been following, until COVID.

Obama's administration did rebuild the economy, having inherited the worst set of circumstances since the Great Depression.




thiscocks

2,393 posts

154 months

Monday 1st June
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paulguitar said:
thiscocks said:
Also, I wonder if it were a white person that was mistakenly killed by police would it even make the news?
It certainly does make the news, yes. There was a case not too long ago of an Australian woman shot by mistake in the USA and it was massive news.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_...
Interesting thanks. Makes you wonder how in these instances nothing about race is mentioned? It's just trigger happy, overly force full cops. I can't see how race is relevant to it at all.

Ofcourse we never see on the news many of the hundreds of successful arrests U.S. cops make, while risking their lives everyday in gunland...

Bo_apex

1,263 posts

177 months

Monday 1st June
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paulguitar said:
Bo_apex said:
I am no fan of Trump either.
He did however rebuild the economy to a strong level and increased employment.
I don't want to derail but trump absolutely did not 'rebuild' the economy.

He inherited an economy in good shape from Obama, and it continued along the same lines as it had been following, until COVID.

Obama's administration did rebuild the economy, having inherited the worst set of circumstances since the Great Depression.
Trump managed to get growth upto 3.2%.
Ofcourse now they're printing new money to manipulate the impact of CV19, the US is adrift with a broken rudder.

A huge plunge is just around their penninsular.




Kraken

1,560 posts

159 months

Monday 1st June
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Bo_apex said:
Trump managed to get growth upto 3.2%.
Ofcourse now they're printing new money to manipulate the impact of CV19, the US is adrift with a broken rudder.

A huge plunge is just around their penninsular.
Especially as a huge chunk of that growth came from fracking and associated industries which is now dead in the water with the drop in demand for oil. Racial tensions are only going to get worse as they slip into a massive recession.

citizensm1th

7,420 posts

96 months

Monday 1st June
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thiscocks said:
Interesting thanks. Makes you wonder how in these instances nothing about race is mentioned? It's just trigger happy, overly force full cops. I can't see how race is relevant to it at all.

Ofcourse we never see on the news many of the hundreds of successful arrests U.S. cops make, while risking their lives everyday in gunland...
Go and listen to the governor of new York he addressed exactly your question yesterday

It is not a matter of one black person being killed but repeated deaths of innocent black people mainly males being killed by police officers across the United States year in and year out.

Gary C

6,757 posts

138 months

Monday 1st June
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majordad said:
It’s biased because most of the crime is committed by Black Americans. This guy while not in any way deserving being killed was was not an Angel. At the same time I’m surprised the police Officer who was pictured kneeling on him , and the other officer , had fired their guns in lethal manner times before.
Your surprised the officers had shot and killed before this day ?, is that what your saying ?

The US (maybe in general) has systemic problems

Training is ste
Selection is ste
Leadership is ste
Culture is ste


vdn

7,792 posts

162 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Is this Hamilton’s year? Have Ferrari found an edge? I think if the Mercedes is there or thereabouts - it will another WDC in the bag for Lewis. Having said that, Vettel has a point to prove and Leclerc is looking the real deal. Also, Max?

I hope Hamilton gets it done this year. What a year to do it; historic what with the virus shutting down the start to the season.

Bottas has one foot out of the door perhaps, also.

rscott

11,006 posts

150 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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anonymous said:
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America is a country he seems to have a great deal of affection for and also spends a lot of time there. It's no wonder that he feels the need to speak out on recent events there.

Bo_apex

1,263 posts

177 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Kraken said:
Especially as a huge chunk of that growth came from fracking and associated industries which is now dead in the water with the drop in demand for oil. Racial tensions are only going to get worse as they slip into a massive recession.
Most certainly.
It's always been a fractious nation, ever since the Civil War.

Drawweight

997 posts

75 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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If you felt pressured to tweet/instagram about the shooting from Lewis would you do it?

Personally would I fk, purely out of principal.


andburg

4,149 posts

128 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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yes he pretty much forced f1 to come out and make comment on it but did they need to? Are we assuming because none of them made a statement they're all running round in white hats? I haven't posted anything about it anywhere, i don't need to its got enough attention.

yes those in the public eye should stand up and try to make change, but each has to pick their own battles that matter the most to them otherwise they'll all be preaching all the time and it will have no positive effect.

I think he should have made his statement yes, but no he should not have guilt tripped the rest of the paddock.

vdn

7,792 posts

162 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Drawweight said:
If you felt pressured to tweet/instagram about the shooting from Lewis would you do it?

Personally would I fk, purely out of principal.

I wouldn’t either. But what his post did do; is open the gate; albeit in a slapdash fashion, to other drivers feeling they could.

Leclerc’s post was quite strongly worded - and he made clear he had wanted to say something but felt it not his place. Fair play to Leclerc.

Cold

9,970 posts

49 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Fixing the world, one Instagram selfie at a time. Repost if you agree and a tag five friends. If you don't then you're obviously a racist and should be shunned, shamed and exposed for the vile individual you are.

Next week, poverty in other countries. We can do this.

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat

9,119 posts

54 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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vdn said:
I wouldn’t either. But what his post did do; is open the gate; albeit in a slapdash fashion, to other drivers feeling they could.

Leclerc’s post was quite strongly worded - and he made clear he had wanted to say something but felt it not his place. Fair play to Leclerc.
Some of the drivers are quite young, too. Not to say their opinion is less important, however you have other priorities in your early 20s to those heading towards middle age. They certainly shouldn't feel pressured to wade in to arguments they have little exposure to because they're told they should.

eccles

11,994 posts

181 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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vdn said:
Drawweight said:
If you felt pressured to tweet/instagram about the shooting from Lewis would you do it?

Personally would I fk, purely out of principal.

I wouldn’t either. But what his post did do; is open the gate; albeit in a slapdash fashion, to other drivers feeling they could.

Leclerc’s post was quite strongly worded - and he made clear he had wanted to say something but felt it not his place. Fair play to Leclerc.
Of course LeClerc is going to say something like that, He's not exactly going to say 'I never noticed it, thanks Lewis for bringing it to my attention'

vdn

7,792 posts

162 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
vdn said:
I wouldn’t either. But what his post did do; is open the gate; albeit in a slapdash fashion, to other drivers feeling they could.

Leclerc’s post was quite strongly worded - and he made clear he had wanted to say something but felt it not his place. Fair play to Leclerc.
Some of the drivers are quite young, too. Not to say their opinion is less important, however you have other priorities in your early 20s to those heading towards middle age. They certainly shouldn't feel pressured to wade in to arguments they have little exposure to because they're told they should.
If they feel pressured; then they’re weak. Leclerc posted a heart felt message after explaining he had felt it hadn’t been his place to comment. Weak? No, I don’t think so.

Bo_apex

1,263 posts

177 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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vdn said:
I wouldn’t either. But what his post did do; is open the gate; albeit in a slapdash fashion, to other drivers feeling they could.

Leclerc’s post was quite strongly worded - and he made clear he had wanted to say something but felt it not his place. Fair play to Leclerc.
Leclerc has class

vdn

7,792 posts

162 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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Bo_apex said:
vdn said:
I wouldn’t either. But what his post did do; is open the gate; albeit in a slapdash fashion, to other drivers feeling they could.

Leclerc’s post was quite strongly worded - and he made clear he had wanted to say something but felt it not his place. Fair play to Leclerc.
Leclerc has class
Yes, I agree. He does seem to.

Muzzer79

3,957 posts

146 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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anonymous said:
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This isn't about one police officer killing one man in another part of the world, this is about racism in general.

This is about the world sitting back and not taking action when someone gets mistreated due to their race, wherever they are. The Minneapolis incident is just the latest example of that.

Hamilton is calling out the fact that no-one stands up to any of the incidents that occur all the time. No-one highlights it, no-one says it isn't acceptable, apart from him.

When it happens all the time and only the minority who are affected by it speak out about it, nothing will change. It requires everyone.



vdn

7,792 posts

162 months

Tuesday 2nd June
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anonymous said:
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I’m sure they’ll get over it. You won’t though!

Reeeeeeelax.

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