Sebastian Vettel

Sebastian Vettel

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wevster

833 posts

172 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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AJB88 said:
Reports of Vettel helping to clear rubbish from the stands after the race.
Most productive thing he did all day…

Byker28i

74,842 posts

232 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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wevster said:
AJB88 said:
Reports of Vettel helping to clear rubbish from the stands after the race.
Most productive thing he did all day…
https://www.theindianpaper.com/british-gp-vettel-picks-up-rubbish-in-the-stands-after-the-race/

Killer2005

20,192 posts

243 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Byker28i said:
wevster said:
AJB88 said:
Reports of Vettel helping to clear rubbish from the stands after the race.
Most productive thing he did all day…
https://www.theindianpaper.com/british-gp-vettel-picks-up-rubbish-in-the-stands-after-the-race/
More pictures at https://www.facebook.com/292141847935/posts/101592...

Hol

9,043 posts

215 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Killer2005 said:
Byker28i said:
AJB88 said:
Reports of Vettel helping to clear rubbish from the stands after the race.
https://www.theindianpaper.com/british-gp-vettel-picks-up-rubbish-in-the-stands-after-the-race/
More pictures at https://www.facebook.com/292141847935/posts/101592...
I just saw that and the earlier video of him Cycling into the circuit.

I don’t follow him as a driver, but they are both positive attributes in my book.

kiseca

9,339 posts

234 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Killer2005 said:
Byker28i said:
wevster said:
AJB88 said:
Reports of Vettel helping to clear rubbish from the stands after the race.
Most productive thing he did all day…
https://www.theindianpaper.com/british-gp-vettel-picks-up-rubbish-in-the-stands-after-the-race/
More pictures at https://www.facebook.com/292141847935/posts/101592...
That does deserve respect, Seb, more than I showed with my previous post!

HustleRussell

25,580 posts

175 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Vettel had a number of spins of this kind in the Ferrari. Is this his first in the Aston Martin?

He appears to still drive as though he has a blown diffuser.

Frimley111R

17,041 posts

249 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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HustleRussell said:
Vettel had a number of spins of this kind in the Ferrari. Is this his first in the Aston Martin?

He appears to still drive as though he has a blown diffuser.
He drives like a driver trying hard and sometimes trying too hard. In the RB his car was so superior that he rarely needed to push limits. Its the same with LH.

thegreenhell

19,449 posts

234 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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HustleRussell said:
Vettel had a number of spins of this kind in the Ferrari. Is this his first in the Aston Martin?

He appears to still drive as though he has a blown diffuser.
Many of his spins occur in a very similar way, when he's closely alongside another car exiting a medium speed corner. He's not the only one who's done it, but he seems to do it more than most. I think it was Danny Ricc. who had a similar spin once, and he commented afterwards that he'd 'done a Vettel'. He also said he thought it might have been caused by aerodynamic interference from the other car alongside, possibly interrupting the side vortex and partially stalling the diffuser. I'm not an aerodynamicist, so that could be gibberish for all I know. Maybe he just gets overexcited when he's alongside another car and presses the go pedal too hard.

Dermot O'Logical

3,107 posts

144 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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HustleRussell said:
Vettel had a number of spins of this kind in the Ferrari. Is this his first in the Aston Martin?

He appears to still drive as though he has a blown diffuser.
I think you're on to something there - a blown diffuser requires a counter-intuitive driving style, the driver has to get on the throttle to increase the engine revs, and therefore the volume of exhaust gases, passing through and energising the diffuser.

With this generation of cars not having any exhaust gases in the vicinity of the diffuser, and far torquier engines producing more power lower in the rev range, applying the throttle with low downforce generated by the diffuser will unstick the rear.

Yet Vettel has been driving this generation of car for seven and a bit seasons. You would think that an intelligent driver such as he would have got the hang of this by now.

Condi

18,747 posts

186 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Dermot O'Logical said:
I think you're on to something there - a blown diffuser requires a counter-intuitive driving style, the driver has to get on the throttle to increase the engine revs, and therefore the volume of exhaust gases, passing through and energising the diffuser.

With this generation of cars not having any exhaust gases in the vicinity of the diffuser, and far torquier engines producing more power lower in the rev range, applying the throttle with low downforce generated by the diffuser will unstick the rear.

Yet Vettel has been driving this generation of car for seven and a bit seasons. You would think that an intelligent driver such as he would have got the hang of this by now.
He may suit next year's car with the ground effect though, as it will be less affected by other cars. A bit more traction for him.

vaud

54,989 posts

170 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Dermot O'Logical said:
I think you're on to something there - a blown diffuser requires a counter-intuitive driving style, the driver has to get on the throttle to increase the engine revs, and therefore the volume of exhaust gases, passing through and energising the diffuser.

With this generation of cars not having any exhaust gases in the vicinity of the diffuser, and far torquier engines producing more power lower in the rev range, applying the throttle with low downforce generated by the diffuser will unstick the rear.

Yet Vettel has been driving this generation of car for seven and a bit seasons. You would think that an intelligent driver such as he would have got the hang of this by now.
I think it is more likely to be an aerodynamic instability / unpredictability for the AM under certain conditions causing a sudden separation of airflow.

CoolHands

20,711 posts

210 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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They retired the car though so we don’t know for certain if there was a related issue.

paulguitar

29,994 posts

128 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Frimley111R said:
Its the same with LH.
Uh, no.


cgt2

7,247 posts

203 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Vettel was in the grandstands after the race helping to clear up the mountain of rubbish people left behind. Down to earth guy.

Jasandjules

71,020 posts

244 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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cgt2 said:
Vettel was in the grandstands after the race helping to clear up the mountain of rubbish people left behind. Down to earth guy.
Yup, he seems like someone you could go out to the pub and just chat and drink an afternoon away.

StevieBee

14,183 posts

270 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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cgt2 said:
Vettel was in the grandstands after the race helping to clear up the mountain of rubbish people left behind. Down to earth guy.

confucuis

1,320 posts

139 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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StevieBee said:
He's trying to salvage any parts to bolt onto the Aston...

AJB88

14,240 posts

186 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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cgt2 said:
Vettel was in the grandstands after the race helping to clear up the mountain of rubbish people left behind. Down to earth guy.
I like how hes quite a private bloke outside of F1, also hes into Motorbikes. I'd 100% have a few beers with him.

Steamer

14,054 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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AJB88 said:
cgt2 said:
Vettel was in the grandstands after the race helping to clear up the mountain of rubbish people left behind. Down to earth guy.
I like how hes quite a private bloke outside of F1, also hes into Motorbikes. I'd 100% have a few beers with him.
He's funny too...

..although when I did first hear he was spotted picking up rubbish in the stands my first thought was: Mental Breakdown?!.. or Punishment by Stroll Srn?!

AJB88

14,240 posts

186 months

Thursday 22nd July 2021
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Steamer said:
He's funny too...

..although when I did first hear he was spotted picking up rubbish in the stands my first thought was: Mental Breakdown?!.. or Punishment by Stroll Srn?!
Yeh, I've seen him on British, German and Italian TV and always comes across with a good sense of humour.

It could be punishment but doubt it.