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F1GTRUeno

4,195 posts

162 months

Friday 9th August
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Karun Chandhok drives 3 old Williams F1 cars around the Hungaroring!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWS-Qb5QibQ
Jerez.

I was wondering what it was about when Dickie was tweeting the photos.

Deesee

2,606 posts

27 months

Friday 9th August
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1986, Brands.

Piquet for pole, <600kg car 1200+ hp!

https://youtu.be/jx3H5sOdnxU

coppice

5,430 posts

88 months

Saturday 10th August
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I was there - the best F1 cars I have ever seen from trackside for sheer unadulterated spectacle. And a lovely noise too compared to modern turbo F1 - the Honda sounded wonderful, but the Renault V6 was even better , loud enough to shake your insides . And the sheer insane speed - I still tingle at the memory.

ELUSIVEJIM

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6,241 posts

95 months

Sunday 11th August
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Deesee said:
1986, Brands.

Piquet for pole, <600kg car 1200+ hp!

https://youtu.be/jx3H5sOdnxU
Just fantastic.

I know modern cars are so much faster but seeing that Williams being thrown about with no room for error is just completely different.

Make a mistake and you're in deep trouble.

Massive respect.

coppice

5,430 posts

88 months

Monday 12th August
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Modern cars lap quicker , thanks to aero, tyres , paddle shifts and brakes but sure don't accelerate like that . A turbo F1 car, especially in qualifying spec , would weigh about 550kg , without driver, and a modern one 740kg with driver. Using a qualifying engine (which could grenade itself after 10 minutes ) an 86 car could be running up to 1200bhp. maybe more , which is at least 300bhp more than now , and from a smaller engine ...

Deesee

2,606 posts

27 months

Monday 12th August
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you must have your headphones on for this one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7J00OH8FvE&fe...

sgtBerbatov

1,580 posts

25 months

Monday 12th August
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F1GTRUeno said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Karun Chandhok drives 3 old Williams F1 cars around the Hungaroring!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWS-Qb5QibQ
Jerez.

I was wondering what it was about when Dickie was tweeting the photos.
The most tenuous link to a race I've ever seen.

Still, they sound magical. Pity Karun only got a minute each time speaking about the car.

ELUSIVEJIM

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6,241 posts

95 months

Monday 12th August
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coppice said:
Modern cars lap quicker , thanks to aero, tyres , paddle shifts and brakes but sure don't accelerate like that . A turbo F1 car, especially in qualifying spec , would weigh about 550kg , without driver, and a modern one 740kg with driver. Using a qualifying engine (which could grenade itself after 10 minutes ) an 86 car could be running up to 1200bhp. maybe more , which is at least 300bhp more than now , and from a smaller engine ...
It's the same with Group B rally cars from the same era.

Mental in a straight line.

Just something about these cars. The F1 and Group B.

I think it was due to the fact the power outputs back then were from another planet and even now they are still higher than modern equivalents.

Just imagine what teams could do without regulations biggrin

ELUSIVEJIM

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6,241 posts

95 months

Monday 12th August
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Deesee said:
you must have your headphones on for this one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7J00OH8FvE&fe...
Just brilliant. I do miss that sound. frown

Deesee

2,606 posts

27 months

Monday 12th August
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Deesee said:
you must have your headphones on for this one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7J00OH8FvE&fe...
Just brilliant. I do miss that sound. frown
We need it back!!

HighwayStar

2,478 posts

88 months

Monday 12th August
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
coppice said:
Modern cars lap quicker , thanks to aero, tyres , paddle shifts and brakes but sure don't accelerate like that . A turbo F1 car, especially in qualifying spec , would weigh about 550kg , without driver, and a modern one 740kg with driver. Using a qualifying engine (which could grenade itself after 10 minutes ) an 86 car could be running up to 1200bhp. maybe more , which is at least 300bhp more than now , and from a smaller engine ...
It's the same with Group B rally cars from the same era.

Mental in a straight line.

Just something about these cars. The F1 and Group B.

I think it was due to the fact the power outputs back then were from another planet and even now they are still higher than modern equivalents.

Just imagine what teams could do without regulations biggrin
Well we saw what happened in the Group B era and why it was band. I would've loved to have seen them.

No regs re F1... we'll end up with the equivalent of the Williams FW14B and everyone else wayyyyyyyyyyy behind. wink


ELUSIVEJIM

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6,241 posts

95 months

Monday 12th August
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HighwayStar said:
Well we saw what happened in the Group B era and why it was band. I would've loved to have seen them.

No regs re F1... we'll end up with the equivalent of the Williams FW14B and everyone else wayyyyyyyyyyy behind. wink
Yes, safety was not exactly though about when the fuel tanks were under the driver and co-driver in a Group B car frown

I am sure you are right that one team would just disappear but would love to see what designs each team would come up with no regs biggrin

ELUSIVEJIM

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6,241 posts

95 months

Monday 12th August
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2001 Belgian GP - Juan Pablo Montoya Onboard

Clearly still a damp/greasy track.

Really miss the old bus stop chicane frown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pom0YSsxMY0

ELUSIVEJIM

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6,241 posts

95 months

Monday 12th August
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F1 Melbourne 2002 - Jarno Trulli vs Michael Schumacher vs Juan Pablo Montoya!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVoScgNlPNA

Mark-C

3,035 posts

149 months

Monday 12th August
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Deesee said:
1986, Brands.

Piquet for pole, <600kg car 1200+ hp!

https://youtu.be/jx3H5sOdnxU
I miss Brands Hatch for GP racing ... my first ever F1 experience was Qualifying in 1978 at Druids.


ELUSIVEJIM

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6,241 posts

95 months

Tuesday 13th August
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Mark-C said:
I miss Brands Hatch for GP racing ... my first ever F1 experience was Qualifying in 1978 at Druids.
It was an amazing circuit. Pretty scare if something went wrong.

There is a guy who has uploaded some amazing private footage with F1 cars at Brands Hatch

He has a few more if you look at his channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WPBcOaF3pw&t=...

Edited by ELUSIVEJIM on Tuesday 13th August 11:50

Deesee

2,606 posts

27 months

Tuesday 13th August
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Mark-C said:
I miss Brands Hatch for GP racing ... my first ever F1 experience was Qualifying in 1978 at Druids.
It was an amazing circuit. Pretty scare if something went wrong.

There is a guy who has uploaded some amazing private footage with F1 cars at Brands Hatch

He has a few more if you look at his channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WPBcOaF3pw&t=...

Edited by ELUSIVEJIM on Tuesday 13th August 11:50
This guy is good, Merc w08 at Brands in VR vs Piquet in '86!

https://youtu.be/x0YsgeFFxkI

(oh, and he's done a spin on the ring too, if you click on videos)...

ELUSIVEJIM

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6,241 posts

95 months

Tuesday 13th August
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Deesee said:
This guy is good, Merc w08 at Brands in VR vs Piquet in '86!

https://youtu.be/x0YsgeFFxkI

(oh, and he's done a spin on the ring too, if you click on videos)...
Cool will have a look. Cheers mate smile

ELUSIVEJIM

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6,241 posts

95 months

Tuesday 13th August
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1995 Ferrari 412 T2 F1 V12

Looks stunning sitting in the garage. But what a sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ-G0p9bnFY

F1GTRUeno

4,195 posts

162 months

Wednesday 14th August
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Speaking of mid 90's V12 Ferraris.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf19/london/lot...



One from the year before, just as pretty, just as great sounding. Coming up for auction soon. Beautiful.