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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Karun Chandhok drives 3 old Williams F1 cars around the Hungaroring!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWS-Qb5QibQ
Jerez.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWS-Qb5QibQ
I was wondering what it was about when Dickie was tweeting the photos.
I was there - the best F1 cars I have ever seen from trackside for sheer unadulterated spectacle. And a lovely noise too compared to modern turbo F1 - the Honda sounded wonderful, but the Renault V6 was even better , loud enough to shake your insides . And the sheer insane speed - I still tingle at the memory.
Deesee said:
Just fantastic.I know modern cars are so much faster but seeing that Williams being thrown about with no room for error is just completely different.
Make a mistake and you're in deep trouble.
Massive respect.
Modern cars lap quicker , thanks to aero, tyres , paddle shifts and brakes but sure don't accelerate like that . A turbo F1 car, especially in qualifying spec , would weigh about 550kg , without driver, and a modern one 740kg with driver. Using a qualifying engine (which could grenade itself after 10 minutes ) an 86 car could be running up to 1200bhp. maybe more , which is at least 300bhp more than now , and from a smaller engine ...
F1GTRUeno said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Karun Chandhok drives 3 old Williams F1 cars around the Hungaroring!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWS-Qb5QibQ
Jerez.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWS-Qb5QibQ
I was wondering what it was about when Dickie was tweeting the photos.
Still, they sound magical. Pity Karun only got a minute each time speaking about the car.
coppice said:
Modern cars lap quicker , thanks to aero, tyres , paddle shifts and brakes but sure don't accelerate like that . A turbo F1 car, especially in qualifying spec , would weigh about 550kg , without driver, and a modern one 740kg with driver. Using a qualifying engine (which could grenade itself after 10 minutes ) an 86 car could be running up to 1200bhp. maybe more , which is at least 300bhp more than now , and from a smaller engine ...
It's the same with Group B rally cars from the same era.Mental in a straight line.
Just something about these cars. The F1 and Group B.
I think it was due to the fact the power outputs back then were from another planet and even now they are still higher than modern equivalents.
Just imagine what teams could do without regulations
Deesee said:
Just brilliant. I do miss that sound. 
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Deesee said:
Just brilliant. I do miss that sound. ELUSIVEJIM said:
coppice said:
Modern cars lap quicker , thanks to aero, tyres , paddle shifts and brakes but sure don't accelerate like that . A turbo F1 car, especially in qualifying spec , would weigh about 550kg , without driver, and a modern one 740kg with driver. Using a qualifying engine (which could grenade itself after 10 minutes ) an 86 car could be running up to 1200bhp. maybe more , which is at least 300bhp more than now , and from a smaller engine ...
It's the same with Group B rally cars from the same era.Mental in a straight line.
Just something about these cars. The F1 and Group B.
I think it was due to the fact the power outputs back then were from another planet and even now they are still higher than modern equivalents.
Just imagine what teams could do without regulations
No regs re F1... we'll end up with the equivalent of the Williams FW14B and everyone else wayyyyyyyyyyy behind.
HighwayStar said:
Well we saw what happened in the Group B era and why it was band. I would've loved to have seen them.
No regs re F1... we'll end up with the equivalent of the Williams FW14B and everyone else wayyyyyyyyyyy behind.
Yes, safety was not exactly though about when the fuel tanks were under the driver and co-driver in a Group B car No regs re F1... we'll end up with the equivalent of the Williams FW14B and everyone else wayyyyyyyyyyy behind.
I am sure you are right that one team would just disappear but would love to see what designs each team would come up with no regs
2001 Belgian GP - Juan Pablo Montoya Onboard
Clearly still a damp/greasy track.
Really miss the old bus stop chicane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pom0YSsxMY0
Clearly still a damp/greasy track.
Really miss the old bus stop chicane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pom0YSsxMY0
F1 Melbourne 2002 - Jarno Trulli vs Michael Schumacher vs Juan Pablo Montoya!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVoScgNlPNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVoScgNlPNA
Deesee said:
I miss Brands Hatch for GP racing ... my first ever F1 experience was Qualifying in 1978 at Druids.Mark-C said:
I miss Brands Hatch for GP racing ... my first ever F1 experience was Qualifying in 1978 at Druids.
It was an amazing circuit. Pretty scare if something went wrong.There is a guy who has uploaded some amazing private footage with F1 cars at Brands Hatch
He has a few more if you look at his channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WPBcOaF3pw&t=...
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 13th August 11:50
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Mark-C said:
I miss Brands Hatch for GP racing ... my first ever F1 experience was Qualifying in 1978 at Druids.
It was an amazing circuit. Pretty scare if something went wrong.There is a guy who has uploaded some amazing private footage with F1 cars at Brands Hatch
He has a few more if you look at his channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WPBcOaF3pw&t=...
Edited by ELUSIVEJIM on Tuesday 13th August 11:50
https://youtu.be/x0YsgeFFxkI
(oh, and he's done a spin on the ring too, if you click on videos)...
Deesee said:
This guy is good, Merc w08 at Brands in VR vs Piquet in '86!
https://youtu.be/x0YsgeFFxkI
(oh, and he's done a spin on the ring too, if you click on videos)...
Cool will have a look. Cheers mate https://youtu.be/x0YsgeFFxkI
(oh, and he's done a spin on the ring too, if you click on videos)...
1995 Ferrari 412 T2 F1 V12
Looks stunning sitting in the garage. But what a sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ-G0p9bnFY
Looks stunning sitting in the garage. But what a sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ-G0p9bnFY
Speaking of mid 90's V12 Ferraris.
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf19/london/lot...
One from the year before, just as pretty, just as great sounding. Coming up for auction soon. Beautiful.
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf19/london/lot...
One from the year before, just as pretty, just as great sounding. Coming up for auction soon. Beautiful.
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